Thunderbolt Pegasus R4 Experience?

Has anyone else got any first hand experience of the Promise Pegasus R4 (or R6) with their iMac? I bought mine this week and managed to load it up with around 1.4Tb (it holds around 3Tb) no problem. Now, today I can't get the drive to stay connected before it ejects for more than 5 minutes. It's driving me mad and I'm very concerned as I moved all my family video onto it from another drive and it won't stay connected long enough to get it back onto another drive again.

iMac, Mac OS X (10.6.8), 2011 i7 3.4, 256Gb SSD and 16Gb RAM

Posted on Jul 16, 2011 8:38 AM

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Nov 20, 2013 6:45 AM in response to Matchless1895

hello again to everyone,


i posted earlier on, but have been following at least 4 threads on this mavericks and hd issue, including pegasus units.


in summary, i have two bloated new imac systems (jan 2013), 3 27" displays, pegasus r4's, 3tb usb wd hds, etc.


both went to mavericks, never having installed any promise software, utilities, drivers, whatever. both worked flawlessly as time machine archives, and weekly time machine backups to the wd drives (also no wd softare or drivers ever installed, immediately reformatted on installation as we do all ext hds).


one system reported time machine unavailable for 5 days but that was ignored (not my system...) and my imac did the same immediately after installing mavericks... where as i freaked, tried a long list of 'fixes' from reformatting, re-installing mavericks (3 times), hard reset of time michine, repairs to ssd in imac and pegasus, all to no avao=il.


i reported the problem to promice on their support site, only to discover just yesterday that you must have pop-ups unblocked or you can never get to see their responses... yah, they gotta fix that, and a few other things.


so, i ranted here and other threads like a madman (like most others have done) and promise contacted me directly and were enormously helpful in sorting most of this out... it DOES seem to be a combo-problem, with just a tad of error, err, not-error-handling added in by mavericks.


wd has already issued lots of 'yatta' and other thread-posts about their complicity, so i'll skipp all that here.


for the pegasus, my system, after loading a new updated promiseutils, and after promise had me update the pegasus firmware, and after promise gave me good instructions on command lines that needed to be done via 'terminal' because their utility doesn't actually do it under mavericks yet... hmmm, they'll fix that eventually too, but they did jump in here to honestly help (go back in the posts and you'll find victor's email address at promise).


and a yton of littl epicky things to do... but finally it all works perfectly again:


so, here's the pointers i learned:


in general: go to system preferences, spotlight, and add your externals drives (especially your time machine drive) to the privacy window so that processor hog pita spotlight doesn't spend days indexing it!). it 'seems' that if spotlight is indexing it time machine will choke faster than a yorkie with a chicken bone!


pegasus: for sure, contact promise via email to victor as online support is lacking, takes along time, and... well, they aren't the brains behind promise support, victor and his guys are. make sure you have the latest promiseutils installed and working, and thus you can get the latest firmware update... afterwards, power-down your pegasus unit, and cold boot your system then repwoer the pegasus. after several cold mavericks reboots, and 2 weeks of time, suddenly mavericks discovers a 'new thunderbolt bridge'??? ***, who snuck a tiny mavericks update in while i was blind? seriously... this imac has been running since january and suddenly it has a new thunderbolt bridge two weeks after installing mavericks? yorkie >> chicken bone.


IF your promiseutils app (you must run it) shows that any of their toshiba (or whatever) hds have a 'bad block' that has supposedly been isolated and the r4/r6 should work anyway as designed to be a good raid system... mavericks >> yorkie >> chicken bone!! i suspect (have no proof and don't want to go look for any either) that mavericks will choke on any timeout of error message/state from any hd, and particularly a fw hd or thunderbolt drive, regardless of what their 'software' tries to do. it appears any timeout and mavericks will take an apocalyptic viewpoints and try to eliminate the alien in your system and re-write its DNA. as soon as i 'hot-yanked' that not-even-failed- hd from the pegasus, poof, it handled the raid issue like it was supposed to, and time machine worked, and mavericks stopped going all terminatrix on it.


the other imac system with the odd time machime failure? meh- 5 or 6 days later it just started working after spotlight (under mavericks) finally finshed hogging it and using 90+ percent of the processors. it still doesn't have a firmware update, and it still doesn't have promiseutils on it... so, betcha it doesn't have a 'bad block' anywhere either. we just keep a little statue of bhudda close by with a little bit of rice and fruit going rotten, have a crucifix on the wall, and tiptoe silently near it (mostly to just not wake up that scientist, i think).


ps. there's no way i am going to put mavericks on my imac at home, yet...

Jan 16, 2014 1:01 PM in response to Infotech 24 7

Hi everybody,


I have an R4 8TB running on a brand new iMac w/ Mavericks. I found this forum after ordering the drive and before receiving it. Happy to say I've had a flawless experience with it...so far.


When I run Disk Utility's Verify Disk on my Pegasus R4, it's giving me the following error, saying I need to repair the disk:


Volume bitmap needs minor repair for orphaned blocks


If I try to repair it, I get this error:


Error: Live file system repair is not supported.


Understandably, I'm super nervous about doing anything unnecessary to this drive...firmware updates, disk repairs... While I've had a good experience so far, I'm super nervous, and don't want to lose data. I assume I have to unmount the drive to repair it. Does anybody have any ideas if this repair will be safe or not? Whole point of buying this drive is that I don't easily have another place to stash 6TB of content...

Jan 16, 2014 5:28 PM in response to RackZozing

Similar issue. I am still waiting to hear from Pegusus - the first person could not resolve this. Pegusus utility says the drive is fine but Disk Utility insists it needs to be reformatted - cannot be repaired. Since the mac OS historically has had issues with this drive - unmounting it willy nilly - I am thinking this is not a drive issues but a Mac issue.


I have updated the firmware with Pegasus R6. I have not updated to Maverick yet..... afraid of all the issues with the R6 and Maverick.


I have backed up everything to assorted old hard drives and the data is also backed up to CrashPlan - but still do not think this is a R6 issue.


If anyone can help that would be apreciated.

Feb 4, 2014 9:39 AM in response to JulieCor

Please sign up for an account at http://support.promise.com. You'll need to register your Pegasus (the serial number is on the back, and the TLA number is on the bottom), then open a new web support request. The web support requests start with the year (2014) and end with S. Give us a call at 408-228-1500, Mon-Fri 8-5, and read us the case number. We'll track the support request and make sure we're all on the same page. Using direct email to bypass this process would lead to some people not having all the information, and for that reason we keep everything online under your account at http://support.promise.com.


Joe Engledow

Technical Support

Promise Technology

Mar 28, 2014 5:58 AM in response to Bosto

Hey Bosto....can I get those guys emails...we have had a pegassis file system destroyed after a power outage that brought down the mac clients but not the server. Plus after a zero of data and CCC clone back to Pegassis, we are again getting I/O errors from CCC when using the Pegassis in backup role. So, I am unplugging the Pegassis and am planning to completely rebuild raid5; put on a mac host running anything except maverick.


I would be most interested to make sure we have latest firmware upgrade though for Pegassis. Right now I plugged in a GTech 4TB drive to serve as a backup to our 'backup server' (usb3 LACIE). Very lucky I had good backups up till Pegassis took a dive.

Mar 28, 2014 7:26 AM in response to eljonco

Hello eljonco.


Each computer has its own battery backup. This WAS NOT my setup and I have no idea if the battery backups are sufficient…since all macs went down…NOT.


I started getting reports that some files that designers were working on were corrupted and links vanished.


I rebooted the server.


After reboot no one could access the Pegassis. When I went on remotely, Pegassis was not mounted (boy, have I seen this even when we first set it up..had to use ONYX to mount 'invisible' drives). I could not mount pegassis shared files at all with any utility. I ended up rebooting the whole computer again, hoping Pegassis would mount. It never did. In fact Mac reported that a device was bad (not exact error message of couse) and wanted to 'reformat'. Troubles started after that.


To get the artists back up and working, I immediately shared out the Lacie Raid backup device (usb3 on same mac host).


IT reformatted the Pegassis for me (zero'd the data) and put it back in use as our 'backup' to make sure it was stable. CCC was backup up fine for a week. Then 2 days ago, an error re. Pegassis and damaged file system appeared. Disk utility allowed me to repair the raid partition but not the file stucture. Getting very very nervous since we now had NO backup and bad opinions of Raid/thunderbolt, today I put in place a 4TB GTech (no raid) and plan to use it temporarily as my backup.


I don't know what corrupted the pegassis file system…it did start with an abrupt loss of power from mac clients. I saw NOTHING in the console on the mac host server, that it went down at all during the power outage. It stayed up.

Mar 28, 2014 7:38 AM in response to dmcnerney

I am not tech savvy but after my R6 unmounting at odd times and then the pegassus file systm getting corrupted twice in one month requiring reformatting the whole drive, I sent it back to Apple for a full refund (I have had it a year). I just don't have the time to be continually trouble shooting the drive. I am currently using LaCie thunderbolt 4 Tb RAID with no concerns - but it has only been a month. It is almost full so I will likely order a second one and daisy chain them. I do back up everything to CrashPlan as well. The LasCie is much less expensive but I am finding it a tad slower. Kind of happy to be done with Pegasis.

Mar 28, 2014 7:39 AM in response to dmcnerney

By the way. This is a brand new Pegasus device with brand new mac mini running mavericks. I have installed, maintained and adminstered mac servers for 13 years prior to this job..xervers, unix, windows servers and all had raids. I have never seen anything like this before and from the chatter this really points to APPLE. I am disappointed that they are not jumping in here and offering hope to a set which THEY recommend and sell on thier store. This is very UNAPPLE like. It seems likely that they have problems with the RAID/Thunderbolt/mavericks setup. So come on apple...where is the patch?

Mar 28, 2014 7:45 AM in response to dmcnerney

I can't tell you how many calls to Apple Care and trips into the Apple repair guy only to be told my computer was fine with all diognostics. Apple Care people hadn't even heard of the Pegasus Drive. Too many hours with the Pegasus people wiriting emails/phone calls only to tell me nothing wrong withthe drive.

But when I finally asked Apple for a refund they didn't hesitate. I would reconsider the R6 if Appple comes up with a fix. It is fast.

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