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  • 1,275. Re: What is your reaction to using Lion?
    Michelasso Level 1 Level 1 (65 points)

    Alf Megson wrote:

     

    FYI, this is the message which Time Machine gave which helpfully deleted all my backups:

    Time Machine completed a verification of your backups. To improve reliability, Time Machine must create a new backup for you.

    That doesn't mean that the old backup will be deleted, though. It means that a new (full?) backup must be created. Some deletions should happen if you don't have enough space in the backup disk.

  • 1,276. Re: What is your reaction to using Lion?
    softwater Level 5 Level 5 (5,370 points)

    This is the problem with Time Machine: it doesn't tell you what its going to do before it does it (usually only after its too late to do anything about it) and even when it does give you messages they are cryptic to most except those who have been burned by its erratic behaviour in the past.

     

    Turn off Time Machine; use Carbon Copy Cloner or SuperDuper instead. They have none of these problems.

  • 1,277. Re: What is your reaction to using Lion?
    Michelasso Level 1 Level 1 (65 points)

    softwater wrote:

     

    Turn off Time Machine; use Carbon Copy Cloner or SuperDuper instead. They have none of these problems.

    Oh.. for once we agree!!

     

    I never used Time Machine. And now I even switched from SuperDuper! to CCC after SD! deleted my movie folder! CCC also supports a kind of incremental (compressed?) backup. And best of all... It is FREE!!!

  • 1,278. Re: What is your reaction to using Lion?
    coocooforcocoapuffs Level 3 Level 3 (845 points)
    CCC also supports a kind of incremental (compressed?) backup. And best of all... It is FREE!!!

    Indeed. Been using it for years and love it. However, there is one Lion issue that I am aware of...the recovery HD will not be cloned, so as long as you know that... there is no warning, but a cloning back of the drive will not include the recovery partition. However, a reinstall of Lion after that will fix that bug. Cheers!

  • 1,279. Re: What is your reaction to using Lion?
    softwater Level 5 Level 5 (5,370 points)

    Michelasso wrote:

     

    Oh.. for once we agree!!

     

     

    It'll never last...

     

     

    Michelasso wrote:

     

    And best of all... It is FREE!!!

     

     

    Yeah, but do consider donating ten bucks or so. You've probably paid for s/w that's of far less value to you in the long run and which has probably had far less work put into it. Even the help files are professionally done, and as someone who's a technical author, I know how much extra work that involves. We're all used to crap 'help'; you wouldn't believe how much thought, work and attention to detail is required to make help as 'helpful' as it is in CCC.

  • 1,280. Re: What is your reaction to using Lion?
    Csound1 Level 8 Level 8 (35,350 points)

    Michelasso wrote:

     

    softwater wrote:

     

    Turn off Time Machine; use Carbon Copy Cloner or SuperDuper instead. They have none of these problems.

    Oh.. for once we agree!!

     

    I never used Time Machine. And now I even switched from SuperDuper! to CCC after SD! deleted my movie folder! CCC also supports a kind of incremental (compressed?) backup. And best of all... It is FREE!!

    I will echo softwater here, send a donation, it's the right thing to do.

  • 1,281. Re: What is your reaction to using Lion?
    Alf Megson Level 1 Level 1 (85 points)

    The backup disk is 2TB, my MacBook disk is 500GB, of which only about 200GB had been used. There was plenty of space.

     

    Time Machine did delete all my previous backups. This is a well documented 'feature'. It does not mean a new incremental backup, it means a whole new hierarchical backup.

     

    The full text of the message is as follows:

    Time Machine completed a verification of your backups. To improve reliability, Time Machine must create a new backup for you.

     

    Click "Start New Backup" to create a new backup. This will remove your existing backup history.  This could take

    several hours.

     

    Click "Back Up Later" to be reminded tomorrow. Time Machine won't perform backups during this time.

     

    (Backup Later) (Start New Backup)

  • 1,282. Re: What is your reaction to using Lion?
    Michelasso Level 1 Level 1 (65 points)

    Oh, sorry. The full message says it differently. Well, another reason for not using Time Machine, then. I'll stick with CCC. And let's remember to donate!!

  • 1,283. Re: What is your reaction to using Lion?
    woodmeister50 Level 4 Level 4 (3,745 points)

    Been using CCC for years and it has been great and still is.

    The Recovery HD cloning can be done but requires a little

    work.  Best thing for that, just put it on a USB stick, or

    a couple just to be safe.

     

    I use different software (GoodSync) and a separate drive

    and USB sticks to backup data and do this on a daily basis.

    And on critical data, back up periocally during the day.

     

    With this approach, if the main drive is "hosed", I can

    immediately reboot and at most lose a days work.

    Also, using a the clone methodolgy, even if my

    primary work Mac dies, I can boot the clone on one

    of my other Macs and get back to work.

     

    Anyone using a computer for business MUST have plans

    in place to get back up and running IMMEDIATELY. 

    OS upgrades aside, anything can happen!   After

    all, even a Mercedes can break down.

  • 1,284. Re: What is your reaction to using Lion?
    cornelius Level 6 Level 6 (17,825 points)

    Alf Megson wrote:

     

    My MacBook Pro was backed up by Time Machine to a ReadyNAS Duo, i.e. a full backup plus a clone of that backup.

    Alf, why would you make a clone of your TM backup? Why not just make a clone of your OS X volume? A clone of your TM backup is an unnecessary duplication. A clone of your Macintosh HD would be bootable and you can simply boot from it and clone it back.

     

    cornelius

  • 1,285. Re: What is your reaction to using Lion?
    greenguppy Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    so coming in mid conversation, but yet not quite super technical w/ mac (mac n i have been in a relationship about 5 years and its gone very slowly)...so i finally found out i needed the snow leopard/$29 disk to get updated.

     

    i finally get myself to store to buy snow lep and dude selling it to me, as he is ringing me up, tells me that i still have to do more downloading when i get home to get totally up to date.  and he's like, btw, you'll have to buy it. 

     

    at that point, i was like F it, it took me this long to get snow leopard, no rush in the next one.

     

    so question one: should apple store dude have sold me the lion cd vs the snow lep?

     

    misinformation from apple store aside, question number 2, from what i understand, lion is not totally mission critical and i like the way the 2 screens work now w/ the upgrade to snow leopard.  if you are saying that's going to be impacted by doing an upgrade to lion, would a common, at home user for my mac even need the lion upgrade to function properly?  i basically use safari, photoshop/illustrator.  and i stream from netflix to tv. 

     

    i am happy to hear opinions. 

     

    ps:  this may be even more totally lame...but does apple offer 'free' simple workshops to help you see exactly what your computer is capable of doing?  i mean, i know i could be getting more out of my machine, just not sure how.   

     

    thanks for input ahead of time

  • 1,286. Re: What is your reaction to using Lion?
    babowa Level 7 Level 7 (23,285 points)

    at that point, i was like F it, it took me this long to get snow leopard, no rush in the next one.

     

    so question one: should apple store dude have sold me the lion cd vs the snow lep?

     

    Lion does not come on a CD. It is only available via download from the app store and you must have Snow leopard 10.6.8 in order to do so.

     

    misinformation from apple store aside, question number 2, from what i understand, lion is not totally mission critical and i like the way the 2 screens work now w/ the upgrade to snow leopard.  if you are saying that's going to be impacted by doing an upgrade to lion, would a common, at home user for my mac even need the lion upgrade to function properly?  i basically use safari, photoshop/illustrator.  and i stream from netflix to tv. 

     

     

     

    1. There was no misinformation.

     

    2. There is no need to upgrade if you are happy with how your machine performs. It is as simple as that. If your machine works as is, let it be. An upgrade is not mission critical.

  • 1,287. Re: What is your reaction to using Lion?
    Asatoran Level 4 Level 4 (2,535 points)

    ...so question one: should apple store dude have sold me the lion cd vs the snow lep?...

    There is no Lion "CD".  Lion is normally only available as a download from the Mac App Store.  And the Mac App Store is only availalbe if you have Snow Leopard.  So your purchase of Snow Leopard would be the normally recommended method to upgrade to Lion.

     

    If you do not have broadband internet, the Lion installer is available on a USB flash drive for an additional cost.  I do not know if it is available in a physical store or online only.  Assuming online only, then again, what the person at the store did (selling you Snow Leopard) was the normally recommended way to upgrade to Lion.

    ...misinformation from apple store aside, question number 2, from what i understand, lion is not totally mission critical and i like the way the 2 screens work now w/ the upgrade to snow leopard.  if you are saying that's going to be impacted by doing an upgrade to lion, would a common, at home user for my mac even need the lion upgrade to function properly?...

    If you are happy with Snow Leopard now, and you don't have any "requires Lion" apps, then there's no reason to upgrade to Lion at this time.  You may want to check on Lion's new features to see if there's any reason you do want to upgrade to Lion:

     

    http://www.apple.com/macosx/

     

    But do verify that you computer meets the minimum specification:

     

    http://www.apple.com/macosx/specs.html

     

    In fact, most people (me included) will recommend that you have at least 4GB of RAM rather than the minimum of 2GB.  Because too little RAM will significantly affect your experience in a negative way.  Especially considering the apps you mention you use...

    ...i basically use safari, photoshop/illustrator.  and i stream from netflix to tv.

    Note: Lion no longer includes a component called Rosetta.  Rosetta allows you to run older apps designed for PowerPC Macs.  You'll want to confirm that all your apps will run on Lion.  From the way I'm reading your post, you have a mac that's 5 years old, if you purchased your apps more than a few years ago, there is a very good chance you'll need to upgrade the apps.  Some research on your app versions now will save a lot of headache, particularly for expensive apps like Photoshop.

     

    BTW, since your question is more about acquiring Lion rather than what the subject is of how you like using Lion, it would have been better to start a new question.  As you can see this thread is extremely long and your question can easily get lost here. 

  • 1,288. Re: What is your reaction to using Lion?
    blue5ft3 Level 1 Level 1 (25 points)

    Being new to Mac just as Lion was due to come out, I don't even want to think, and have seen NO resemblance to the horror Vista, sitting <----- only a year old. HP supported NOTHING, so I tried my first, now second Imac. I started on one with Leopard, then Snow Leopard and they upgraded, and the new one, came with Lion installed. I'm so very happy with all 3 versions that I have used in only less than a year, the other Imac still has Snow Leopard on it, and I am upgrading it to Lion. My husband and I are both VERY happy with the Imacs, and IOS devices. My boot time is almost instant with Lion on my new Imac. So I have nothing to complain about other than I wish I could move not just copy files, leaving duplicates to be deleted if possible. That's it.

  • 1,289. Re: What is your reaction to using Lion?
    GTGeek88 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    So I have nothing to complain about other than I wish I could move not just copy files, leaving duplicates to be deleted if possible.

     

    Could you please explain that?

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