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Q: Time Machine backup very slow in Lion

After installing Lion Time Machine backup (not initial one which is long by default) takes about 40 minutes vs. about 5 minutes in Snow Leopard. Very annoying because it slows down my entire system for such a long time. Any help, please?

Mac mini, Mac OS X (10.7)

Posted on Jul 20, 2011 12:10 PM

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  • by petewaw,

    petewaw petewaw Jul 20, 2011 10:49 PM in response to petewaw
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    Jul 20, 2011 10:49 PM in response to petewaw

    Backup finished.

    350 MB in more than an hour!

    While in "backing up" phase it stalls for a long time in the beginnig of copying files (both 350 and 1,2 MB parts) and EXTREMELY long "finishing backup" at the end. I can't use TM any longer on hourly or even daily basis.

  • by Pondini,

    Pondini Pondini Jul 21, 2011 6:53 AM in response to petewaw
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    Jul 21, 2011 6:53 AM in response to petewaw

    petewaw wrote:

    . . .

    it runs twice (!?) - first about 350 MB and then about 1,2 MB

    That part is normal; if it detects more changes during the backup, it will make a second pass -- normally very small and quick.

  • by JimKimmel,

    JimKimmel JimKimmel Jul 21, 2011 7:35 AM in response to Pondini
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    Jul 21, 2011 7:35 AM in response to Pondini

    I also noticed that Time Machine was backing up my entire mailbox database for my Gmail account (about 5GB) everytime I got a new email (I think mail under Snow Leopard only backed up each new message, if it even did that). at 5-7GB (depending on what I did with the email), my "hourly" backups (wirelessly to a TImeCapuse) were taking WAY too long and slowing down my 2008 MacBook Pro. I had to exclude the mailbox folders in  ~/Library/Mail/V2/ from Time Machine to get the backups back to a regular "size" and schedule...

  • by youngjm,

    youngjm youngjm Jul 22, 2011 6:53 AM in response to petewaw
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    Jul 22, 2011 6:53 AM in response to petewaw

    I was having the same problem.  When I went into Time Machine to look at my history, I noticed most of my past slices were not accessible.  These were from the time prior to upgrading to Lion.  I took a guess that TM is having issues bridging backups pre and post Lion? I decided to clear out my TM and start over.  Today so far my backups are back to normal in terms of time.

     

    Hope this helps!

  • by Pondini,

    Pondini Pondini Jul 22, 2011 7:00 AM in response to youngjm
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    Jul 22, 2011 7:00 AM in response to youngjm

    youngjm wrote:

     

    I was having the same problem.  When I went into Time Machine to look at my history, I noticed most of my past slices were not accessible.  These were from the time prior to upgrading to Lion.  I took a guess that TM is having issues bridging backups pre and post Lion? I decided to clear out my TM and start over.  Today so far my backups are back to normal in terms of time.

    Did you erase and install Lion? If so, you could have accessed the old backups.  An erased disk is treated as a new one, so it's the same as an old drive that's no longer connected.  See the pink box in #15A of Time Machine - Frequently Asked Questions.

  • by youngjm,

    youngjm youngjm Jul 22, 2011 10:00 AM in response to Pondini
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    Jul 22, 2011 10:00 AM in response to Pondini

    ??

     

    I deleted the sparse bundle on my external drive connected to my AExtreme and stated over.  Lion was an in place upgrade.  Since I have other backups in the cloud, loosing my TM history was not a big issue.

     

    Problem solved for me, I am moving on!  Hopefully this helps others.....

  • by mspringfield,

    mspringfield mspringfield Jul 22, 2011 1:20 PM in response to petewaw
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    Jul 22, 2011 1:20 PM in response to petewaw

    Mine was the same way. I tried both a locally connected external drive and to an external drive connected to my AirPort Extreme Base Station. My MacBook Air (2010) had 37 Gig to backup took about 4.5 hrs and my iMac (Late 2009) with 180 gig to backup took a painful 15 hours. I thought that it might have just been a slow drive but I can write a 1.5 gig file to the drive in about 3 minutes with means the Air should have completed in under an hour and a half and the iMac about 4 hrs. It has to be something in Time Machine. Since then backups have been for the most part, normal but man that first one pretty much rendered my systems useless.

  • by radajar,

    radajar radajar Jul 23, 2011 5:39 AM in response to petewaw
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    Jul 23, 2011 5:39 AM in response to petewaw

    I tried to setup Time Capsule to factory settings, formatted 2 TB disc at Capsule and showing me initial full backup 390 GB for 72 hours. Uhnappy :-((

  • by EarthBased,

    EarthBased EarthBased Jul 23, 2011 9:09 AM in response to petewaw
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    Jul 23, 2011 9:09 AM in response to petewaw

    I did a full time machine backup over ethernet after upgrading to Lion.  Now Time Machine is slow on Wi-Fi to Time Capsule.  Also, the log messages are not as helpful and seem out fo sync to what is actually happening.  A test 44MB backup took over 20 minutes! The log messages for 'backupd' post-lion install always indicate needing 1.19GB but then only backs up under 100 MB!   Something is wrong with Lion backupd.

     


    I don't wish to re-initalize Time Machine and lose all my backups!   Apple???

  • by Pondini,

    Pondini Pondini Jul 23, 2011 9:13 AM in response to EarthBased
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    Jul 23, 2011 9:13 AM in response to EarthBased

    Verify your internal HD, and repair your backups, per #6 in Using Disk Utility.

     

    Then Repair Permissions, per #5 there.

     

    If that doesn't help, see the green box in #D2 of Time Machine - Troubleshooting.

  • by Pagemakers2,

    Pagemakers2 Pagemakers2 Jul 24, 2011 7:27 AM in response to Pondini
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    Jul 24, 2011 7:27 AM in response to Pondini

    Same slow backup here.

     

    Is anybody using an airport extreme by any chance?

  • by Pondini,

    Pondini Pondini Jul 24, 2011 8:44 AM in response to Pagemakers2
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    Jul 24, 2011 8:44 AM in response to Pagemakers2

    Pagemakers2 wrote:

     

    Same slow backup here.

     

    Is anybody using an airport extreme by any chance?

    I hate to have to tell you this, but backing-up that way is unreliable and not supported by Apple.  See;  Using Time Machine with an Airport Extreme Air Disk.

  • by Pagemakers2,

    Pagemakers2 Pagemakers2 Jul 24, 2011 8:55 AM in response to Pondini
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    Jul 24, 2011 8:55 AM in response to Pondini

    I don't connect via USB. It's connected via ethernet and it has worked faultlessly for years with leopard.

     

    Upgrading to lion and time machine is bust on every mac that connects to it.

  • by EarthBased,

    EarthBased EarthBased Jul 24, 2011 11:42 AM in response to petewaw
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    Jul 24, 2011 11:42 AM in response to petewaw

    I repaired perms using repair partition and after stopping time machine tried to repair time machine sparse bundle but disk utility would not enable repair just verify disk which I skipped.   I am backing up again but it definitely is slower post-lion.  Also, I have reliably been backing up to a time capsule via WRT54G DD-WRT wifi since snow leopard came out and when need to do deep index connecting via Ethernet fine.  

  • by J Edmondson,

    J Edmondson J Edmondson Jul 24, 2011 4:17 PM in response to petewaw
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    Jul 24, 2011 4:17 PM in response to petewaw

    I have read that Apple killed 3rd party drives for Time Machine with lion. I have a 1 TB LaCie hard drive that is connected via firewire 800. I haven't gotten an error but I get this status: 

    Starting standard backup

    Backing up to: /Volumes/LaCie Time Machine/Backups.backupdb

    Event store UUIDs don't match for volume: Macintosh HD

    Deep event scan at path:/ reason:must scan subdirs|new event db|

    Finished scan

    Deep event scan at path:/Users/Edmondson/Pictures/iPhoto Library/Database reason:contains changes|must scan subdirs|found in deep scan|missed reservation|

    Finished scan

     

    Does this mean it is backing up because I let it for an hour and it seemed to stay on this forever. I killed the back up. Should I just let it try to finish?

     

    Any help appreciated...thanks Jay

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