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  • Jonathan UK Level 1 Level 1 (80 points)


    eww wrote:

     

    quert302: As others have repeatedly mentioned in this thread, Apple is not here, and you are not talking to Apple when you post here. If you want to make your voice heard by the right people at Apple, post your request here instead:

     

    http://www.apple.com/feedback/macbookpro.html

     

     

    Respectfully, that's not entirely accurate. Apple support has reportedly advised that this board is heavily monitored and we have also been asked to provide related feedback in the forum.

     

    harmonica01 quoted Apple support as saying:

     

    If you and others do believe this is in error, I strongly advise you all to create a thread with screenshots of temperatures and other evidence as you feel necessary.The apple discussion board is heavily monitored by our tech and other departments so a chance for future software updates that would accommodate what you feel is a missing feature in the new operating system may become possible."

     

     

     

    The feedback form is obviously also another important way to advise Apple of our concerns - I'd suggest using the Lion feedback form as a more appropriate choice, given that this issue has arisen due to a change in the OS rather than the MBP - as well as continuing to post feedback in this thread.

     

    http://www.apple.com/feedback/macosx.html

  • Namarillo Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I just left my comment on the feedback page.

     

    Probably if I knew of this problem yesterday, I didn't spent lastnight my 30 bucks on Lion. Apple must give to the users the option to turn off the laptop display.

  • PDzero Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Guys, I found a temporal work-around that does not require a magnet:

     

    Boot up your Macbook and make sure it brings you to the log-in screen instead of straight to your desktop.

     

    Type in your password if you have one.

     

    Now comes the tricky part. The moment you press return to log-in the screen will freeze for just a slight second before it shows your desktop. The moment that happens quickly flip your screen open.

     

    If done correctly, your Mac will bring you to your desktop without waking the Macbook's screen.

     

    *NOTE

     

    It takes a bit of practice and it might not work at the first try. Sign out when it doesn't work and try again.

    One trick I use is to flip open the screen the moment the contrast changes when during the actual log-in procces ( For me the contrast changes because Lion doesn't calibrate my Samsung SyncMaster monitor properly, so I had to calibrate it myself. The moment I log-in the contrast changes and that's the moment to flip the screen open as quickly as possible. )

     

    It might be harder to pull off for people with newer machines, especially ones with an SSD inside. The reason I can time it fairly easy is because I have an old black Macbook with the absolute minimum specs to run Lion, so it takes a few seconds more to log-in as opposed to newer Macs.

     

    Good luck!

  • Cylermi Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Thanks to this issue, I'm unable to play certain games on my MacBook Pro. Since it's not possible to turn off the MBP's monitor, the graphics card is forced to draw two displays at the same time, one of them being a game that is alread taking its toll on the graphics card. As a result, game performance is severely hindered and overheating occurs, causing a lockup, and I have to power down the Mac manually by pressing the power button.

     

    If I play the game on the MBP's own monitor, performance is fine and while the computer runs hot, it doesn't crash. Playing with an external monitor is very detrimental in OS X Lion when I'm unable to shut off the MBP's monitor.

     

    Guess I'll file another bug report and hope they address this issue. Otherwise I'll just have to go back to Snow Leopard having wasted money and time on Lion.

  • joostdh Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I too have filled in the feedback page because the Lion change is frustrating.

     

    My WiFi-reception is terrible with the lid closed (even browsing is unworkable) but perfectly fine with the lid open. So when working with a (larger) external display I want the lid open but do not want to have the internal display active as it’s annoying to have windows opening all over the place.

     

    I hope a user preference is added very, very, very soon.

  • RockStarInLife Level 1 Level 1 (15 points)

    Apple please fix this ASAP.

     

    I just bought the new Macbook Air 11" and it really ***** that I have to use it with dual screens if I want to use an external monitor.

     

    When I close the lid and run my programs like screenflow it makes the fan run all the time and gets really hot. This messes with my audio that I am recording.

     

    Please fix this issue right away.

     

    It would be best if we had some option in the display setting where we can just choose which monitor we want to use instead of having to close the lid and then wake the computer and then open it like we had to with Snow Leopard.

     

    I also left a bug report comment here: http://www.apple.com/feedback/macbookpro.html

     

    I figured bug report fit better since its bugging the carp out of me!

  • enigma2k Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    is this fixed with the 7.1 update?

  • mkedge Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    unfortunetaly, no ...

  • myname150 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I SEEM TO HAVE STUMBLED UPON A FIX!!

    This was all accidental, and I just wanted to see what would happen if I booted with the lid down and my external monitor on.

     

    1. When you turn on your MBP, close the lid enough to where you can push the power button still, then close it about an inch (enough for your MBP to think the lid is closed, like what others were doing to keep the screen from coming on). Make sure your external monitor is on and plugged in.
    2. You either have to time, or devise some sort of method to know when your MBP has finished booting. I was able to tell by the Macbook using DHCP to get an IP from my router, so I watched the status lights. Once my MBP had finished booting, all I did was tap a key on my Apple Wireless Keyboard and Voila! My external monitor came on, and after opeing my MacBook's lid, the internal display remained off.

    This was all done before logging in, and I have yet to find out how "Sleep" would work, but so far it seems like my Internal Display is off, my iStatPro is telling me that my GPU temps are like that of running only one screen, I remember the GPU running way hotter when Mirroring was on.

     

    So guys! Give this a shot, and some feedback! I'm on a Early 2011 MacBook Pro with Mac OS X Lion 10.7.1

     

    Mac OS X still see's the internal display...

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  • durrant23 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    This is extremely annoying. im not too bothered about keeping my MBP cool, but I'm using its speakers while Im abroad for the next year (with a 12 South Bassjump amp). The sound is muffled when its closed, and the 'swipe gestures' are not smooth when its open and both displays are running. Go back to the way it was in SL apple!

  • tjk Level 7 Level 7 (24,180 points)

    durrant23 wrote:

     

    This is extremely annoying. im not too bothered about keeping my MBP cool, but I'm using its speakers while Im abroad for the next year (with a 12 South Bassjump amp). The sound is muffled when its closed, and the 'swipe gestures' are not smooth when its open and both displays are running. Go back to the way it was in SL apple!

     

    I'll never understand why people change from something that works to something that doesn't. Does that make sense to you? Why not upgrade to Snow Leopard and get on with using your MBP?

  • durrant23 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Because I like Lion a lot. Particularly the full screen and swipe/multiple desktop capabilities

  • tjk Level 7 Level 7 (24,180 points)

    durrant23 wrote:

     

    Because I like Lion a lot. Particularly the full screen and swipe/multiple desktop capabilities

     

    That answers that! If I may suggest, reconcile yourself to the fact that you've made a choice between functions. If/when Apple ever gets around to "fixing" this, then you may have your cake and eat it too, but until then, apparently it's one or the other, and you've chosen the other. (And for all our sakes, I really hope this gets resolved soon.)

  • Bob_viking Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I'm back using my external display after the summer, and what a bad surprise this is!

    For all the above mentioned reasons the open-lid clamshell mode is necessary (heat dispersion, faster graphics, lower energy use, etc...).

     

    I sincerely hope Apple will return to allowing its users to decide whther to keep their screen open or not during clamshell mode. If Apple believes the new clamshell mode is how it should have always been, but users think it was better before, why not put a checkbox in the display preferences?

     

    Secondly, taking advantage of this discussion board, I would like to raise another related issue.

    In SL (and Lion now) you could only use clamshell mode while your mac was connected to a power source.

    In the "standard maintenance" of mac batteries (http://www.apple.com/batteries/notebooks.html) "Apple does not recommend leaving your portable plugged in all the time". Does this mean that once your battery is fully charged you should turn off your external monitor, discharge you Mac, then plug it in and use the display again? That's what it sounds like to me.

     

    Therefore, while Apple is working on a necessary update of Lion's clamshell mode, I also suggest that a checkbox in the display preferences is inserted, allowing users to decide whether or not they want to use clamshell mode even when their Mac is not connected to a power supply.

  • eww Level 9 Level 9 (52,975 points)

    In the "standard maintenance" of mac batteries (http://www.apple.com/batteries/notebooks.html) "Apple does not recommend leaving your portable plugged in all the time". Does this mean that once your battery is fully charged you should turn off your external monitor, discharge you Mac, then plug it in and use the display again? That's what it sounds like to me.

     

    No, it doesn't mean that. It means exactly (and only) what it says: don't leave your MBP plugged in all the time. "All" means all. If you use it in clamshell mode all the time, the battery will deteriorate prematurely.* If you take it out of clamshell mode and run it on battery power for a couple of hours two or three times a week, the battery will get the light exercise it needs to stay in top shape, and the machine can be plugged into AC power the other 95%-98% of the time without any ill effects. The only other battery maintenance that will be necessary is a calibration every two or three months, which will involve taking the machine out of clamshell mode, unplugging the AC and using the battery until the machine goes to sleep. If you find it inconvenient to have to use your portable computer on battery power from time to time to keep its battery in good shape, consider that inconvenience to be the price you pay for having such a small, compact desktop computer. If you didn't really need a portable computer, you could have gotten an iMac for less money and had even less clutter on your desk. If you do need a portable from time to time, the chances are that you can easily accommodate the battery's need for regular light exercise without greatly disrupting your usual use of the machine in clamshell mode.

     

    * Of course if you literally never use the battery, its premature deterioration won't bother you at all — you'll never need it.

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