Wifi Constantly Dropping in Lion

And your guess is wrong. Your Mac doesn't "delist that Network location". It just goes back to sleep because your router doesn't support sleep proxy. You don't think Apple tested this with older routers that don't support sleep proxy? You think everyone in the world that has a Mac with an older router can't join Wi-Fi networks?

Just unchecked "wake for network access" in energy saver preferences. Works like a charm, and free. Not all of us have 100 bucks to toss around. Plus this stuff is really interesting. Apple overreached.

"You think everyone in the world that has a Mac with an older router can't join Wi-Fi networks?"

Can join, yes. Can't join after sleep for more than 120 minutes.

Look Snoop. I've had macs since before they were called macs. Programmed computers as a kid. Your arguments are starting to sound suspiciously like they support my point. You should quit while ahead.

"This doesn't seem to happen with a "wired" connection, so I really don't believe that it's a wake from sleep issue. It's more of a WiFi compatibility issue."

Actually, this has recently started to occur with my Ethernet connection. I gave up on WiFi quite a while ago and just ran an Ethernet cable. A week or two ago, when I woke my computer up, Thunderbird would show the message, "You are now offline; would you like to go online...?"

Weird.

Cheers,

Alan Shank

Woodland, CA

It DOES happen with a wired connection. My Mac Pro is connected via an Ethernet cable and experienced the same "not connected to the Internet" message my two MacBooks experienced.

But I haven't had any problems for over 5 months now, ever since I bought a new (ASUS) router.

I needed more RF power than the old Cisco (Lynksys) could give me. This was the only reason for buying the new router. After installing it, my "drop-outs" totally disappeared.

Once can only conclude that there are a number of issues going on here, including a software/firmware issue exclusive with the Lion OS. the combination of which is creating this issue.

There are many out there who have never seen, or who have finally resolved, this problem. I NOW appear to be a member of that group.

Can happen according to literature even with ethernet if it's on a network going into a wired router . You must have a really new router with 802.11n capability and Bonjour Sleep Proxy installed

Some of the new routers are fully compliant with Apple's requirement - 802.11n and Bonjour Sleep Protocol. Some of the router manufacturers didn't incorporate the software and firmware updates and some of us just are running old junk 🙂

Thanks. interresting post!

I'm on a MP 3.1 with OS X 10.8.3. Could you please explain the Bonjour Sleep Proxy, perhaps this is a solution for my MP not to wake up again from deep 'coma' with WOL enabled in the preferense pane.

All wired connections!

Cheers.

YUP ... ASUS RT-N66R with 802.11n, a/g & b. Best router I've owned ('bout $140 @ Best Buy). Three antenna's and enough EIRP to reach every corner of my 2-story house, garage, pool area, backyard and probably my neighbors.

BEST OF ALL, the whole problem that this forum is addressing is HISTORY ... GONE.

Lovin' it !

Wikipedia has as good an explanation as any Google Bonjour Sleep Proxy and read in wikipedia. Also "wake on Demand in the apple support site gives their more optimistic version. It doesn't work well because it was intended for network administrator use for large wired networks originally. Also appears that the notebooks have more complications having to do with whether they are open or closed while sleeping and whether they are not plugged in while sleeping

Well said. My ten year old cell phone won't run the latest phone network. My T-Model Ford won't run on unleaded gas and this dude's old router won't run new network configurations. I think he will continue ranting nonsensical until we all throw in and buy him an updated router like everybody else has as industry standard.

Cheers

Pete

Big Red Dog wrote:

YUP ... ASUS RT-N66R with 802.11n, a/g & b. Best router I've owned ('bout $140 @ Best Buy). Three antenna's and enough EIRP to reach every corner of my 2-story house, garage, pool area, backyard and probably my neighbors.

BEST OF ALL, the whole problem that this forum is addressing is HISTORY ... GONE.

Lovin' it !

The linksys routers that I've been subjected to have to use over the past several years have been very problematic. I am convinced that Cisco has ruined that brand completely. I can not underscore how important it is to have a good quality router that has stable, modern software on it. There is no reason that your network should not operating correctly wired, or wireless, except for software bugs, or emense RF interference or evironmental/multi-path issues.

goatcabin wrote:

"This doesn't seem to happen with a "wired" connection, so I really don't believe that it's a wake from sleep issue. It's more of a WiFi compatibility issue."

Actually, this has recently started to occur with my Ethernet connection. I gave up on WiFi quite a while ago and just ran an Ethernet cable. A week or two ago, when I woke my computer up, Thunderbird would show the message, "You are now offline; would you like to go online...?"

Weird.

Cheers,

Alan Shank

Woodland, CA

If you are having problems on a wired network, then your router may be resetting and rebooting due to errors that it is encountering. I saw this behavior from a linksys router in my new office space. I brought in one of my ubnt nanostation loco m5 routers/radios and put that in place with it setup as a bridge, and now the network is working flawlessly. The linksys router has the most recent firmware on it, and it is just junk. Netgear, ubnt.com and Apple all seem to be able to create great products and fix their router firmware as needed because they value their customers and want to keep them as customers.

Berend de Meyer wrote:

Thanks. interresting post!

I'm on a MP 3.1 with OS X 10.8.3. Could you please explain the Bonjour Sleep Proxy, perhaps this is a solution for my MP not to wake up again from deep 'coma' with WOL enabled in the preferense pane.

All wired connections!

Cheers.

Berend, what router are you using? Who is your ISP? Can you administrate your router?

Your computer should wake up after about every 120 minutes to log in with the router, check domain existence or something like that. It's weird, bugs people. Wakes up for 20 secs, display doesn't lite up. Part of Wake on Demand (Bonjour Sleep Proxy).

If it bugs you I think you can turn off "wake for network access " in Network Prefs