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  • Dwigsy Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I've just about had it with Lion right now. No wonder it was just 30 bucks. I'm going to hard wire my network now as I've wasted too many hours on this.

    Last night at about 1am I was tempted to punch the **** out of my 27' iMac when it kept dropping out during the iCloud setup. Its making me way too angry.

     

    I'll wait for the fix... very disappointed Apple.

  • robtbrodie Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    went to router, changed channel to 13, most of neghbours are 11.  has been better since but not perfect. best move yet and ive tried them all

  • Froggy Grodkin Level 1 Level 1 (20 points)

    Hi Sandpuppy

    Sandpuppy wrote:

     

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    • iPhone4
    • iPad
    • iPad2
    • iMac (older)
    • PowerBook G4
    • iPhone 3G
    • Apple TV

    all running on this WiFi network and no other device has this problem. One solution that seemed to work was to downgrade the Atheros Firmware from 4.0. to 3.2, the previous version.  Meanwhile, I'm hopeful that Apple will come up with a solution to the most annoying problem.

    I wonder if this has something to do with the fact that none of the mentioned devices are running Lion?

     

    If my assumption is correct it seems to support my findings that Lion is causing the problem in some of these situations?

    If a user has genuinely made thorough rectification attempts where all necessary procedures have been followed, in your case it seems abundantly obvious that you have, there must be something else adrift.

    Having reached this point is there is unquestionably any point in repairing something [Wi FI?] which is not broken but will not function properly because it is trying to run on a damaged OS?

     

    The ‘bitter pill’ mentioned in my previous post is not only distasteful to users in this predicament but also a ‘+++++bitter pill’ for Apple.

     

    I am posting this in the hope that some others will travel the route I have taken and set up on their presently troublesome Mac a fresh installation of Lion, and report the success or failure of that process.

    May I reiterate this is not something to undertake without considerable preparation, if at all possible install the fresh copy of Lion on a clean External HDD.

    Using this method will allow continued use of the existing OS.

    It will be possible to determine the outcome in respect of Wi Fi on the fresh Lion installation without the need to load all of the Applications in present use.

    Of course here is no guarantee of success on offer or that there are other factors requiring consideration do not exist, but positive action [for which there are many suggestions on offer] may lead to a result whilst negative action will not be helpful.

     

    Many users focused on the fact that they have just upgraded are blaming Lion for the problem, similarly Wi Fi is getting a lot of attention because it is one area were the issue is being manifested.

    Remembering the wider view of this situation ask yourself a few questions:

     

    1. Have ALL [Note that this means reading through the present 54 pages in this Thread and to the job properly the myriad of other Threads on the subject] of the possible solutions and alternatives on offer been tried?

     

    2. Do you think an upgrade will resolve the problem?

     

    3. Are you prepared to await the arrival of 2?

     

    4. Is it an option to do nothing?

     

    5. Is it cost - time effective to carry out a fresh installation of Lion?

     

    If there is a redundant HDD available, or perhaps one that you could borrow, consider downloading or accessing Install Mac OS X Lion.app

    right click and select Show Package Contents open Contents and locate InstallESD.dmg, it will only cost you your time.

    As a bonus use InstallESD.dmg to burn a Lion Installation Disc, well you never know!

  • Froggy Grodkin Level 1 Level 1 (20 points)

    Sorry I was too late to make edits in the above, but breakfast was more important at the time [I feel better now ]:

     

    Of course here is no guarantee of success on offer or that there are other factors requiring consideration do not exist, but positive action [for which there are many suggestions on offer] may lead to a result whilst negative action will not be helpful.

     

     

    Should have read:

     

    Of course here is no guarantee of success on offer or that other factors requiring consideration do not exist, but positive action [for which there are many suggestions on offer] may lead to a result whilst negative action will not be helpful.

     

    Also the first in the intended series of 6 questions should have been:

     

    Do you think anyone is going to take ownership of this problem?

     

     

    Cheers,

     

    Froggy

  • Froggy Grodkin Level 1 Level 1 (20 points)

    Hi Dwigsy

     

    Please don’t get violent with your iMac it is only the ‘messenger’, you need to get to the root of the problem.

     

    Waiting for the ‘fix’ is tantamount to doing nothing, but of course it is down to your choice.

     

    Apple are not going to hear you telling this ‘user to user’ community, if you want them to hear your complaint consider making it known at:

     

    http://www.apple.com/feedback/macosx.html

  • Froggy Grodkin Level 1 Level 1 (20 points)

    Hi robtbrodie

     

    Have you ‘tried them all” where all is defined in the post at:

     

    https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3190651?start=840&tstart=0

     

    Which due to a typo:

     

    .................reading through the present 54 pages.......................

     

    should have read:

     

    .................reading through the present 57 pages......................

     

    At page 39 I thought that all solutions had been tried.

    It was only after many were retried, and in the case of the solution that finally established a solid Wi Fi connection it took a few more attempts.

    I have described in other posts how the result was achieved and my reasons for abandoning that particular copy of Lion with the good Wi Fi connection in favour of a fresh installation.

     

    I changed Channels very many times and like you saw improvements, they were only improvements not resolutions and in all cases ultimately the situation reverted to continual dropping after a few days. That is not to say the same scenario will play out in your case, I sincerely hope you will find a solution.

  • Dwigsy Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Froggy,

     

    Thanks for the link. I will be providing feedback to raise the awareness level. I now have a solid ethernet cable running to my airport extreme. Every other device and my XP machine are connected with IP addresses and now I'm back to blazing speeds.

     

    Its an ugly setup to be sure, but I can at least enjoy my iMac again. I did like the idea that it was possibly a less than perfect driver that shipped with Lion but I'm not comfortable messing around with those system files - a bit like a bomb disposal guy randomly clipping wires to see what happens.

     

    I will wait for TRUE confirmation of the fix. i.e. an admission that something was seriously wrong and has now been addressed. Too many times it seems resolved after changing something but then turns out it was just for a few hours.

  • Eric T. Macknight Level 1 Level 1 (55 points)

    valtex,

     

    Do let us know what Apple tech support is able to do for you.

     

    Good luck!

     

    Eric

  • Stephen Roberts Level 1 Level 1 (20 points)

    i'm having the same issue thought it was my router there for awhile but after doing quite a bit of testing i'm in the cisco networking program at school it turns out my mac is the issue.

     

    Whats weird is it doesn't do it under windows 7 on this machine just under Lion.

     

    this has caused me much misforturne wifi cut off during a online test and now I have a wait a few days to retake it. And mail has been having issues as well since this started.

     

    APPLE PLEASE DO SOMETHING.

  • Froggy Grodkin Level 1 Level 1 (20 points)

    Dwigsy

    Dwigsy wrote:

     

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    I will wait for TRUE confirmation of the fix. i.e. an admission that something was seriously wrong and has now been addressed. Too many times it seems resolved after changing something but then turns out it was just for a few hours.

    There is no wish to misinterpret the portion of your post above, the following is added in the interests of clarity.

    I have personally undertaken the actions and reporting of events on my Mac, and can assure you they accurately reflect the scenarios which have taken place.

    If by ‘TRUE’ you mean ‘actual’ confirmation e.g., by way of an official upgrade, that ball will remain in Apple‘s court for when and if they are ready to deliver.

     

    Historically Apple have not admitted to serious errors, their MO seems to be to smooth things over and offer some form of compensation.

    As Lion is functioning fully on the vast majority of users machines they may feel justified in the actions they have taken thus far?

    Apple have no resonsibility or control over what Mac users do to their own machines, their probable viewpoint may be that relatively small number of users have incorrectly set up devices and/or connections or have garnered some form of software issue which is causing Wi Fi problems and/or other issues.

     

    My Ethernet over Mains Power Supply Kit is usually used from house to a remote garage, with one unit relocated it came in very useful for helping to repeatedly establish the Wi Fi connection during the weeks of trouble. Without that kit I can only imagine what a long cable trailing about the place would be like, in this location it would probably be a serious tripping hazard.

     

    Thank you for reporting the issue to Apple, IMO it can only help everyone facing this problem.

  • Froggy Grodkin Level 1 Level 1 (20 points)

    Hi Stephen

     

    With 99 posts under your belt you should be aware that this is a user to user forum.

     

    If you want help you need to supply information other than that you may have a a Fall 2009 iMac [ref: the thread starting post].

     

    You say that 'it turns out my mac is the issue‘ perhaps you would care to expand on that, many here would be interested to learn what you have discovered.

     

    If you just want to ‘shout’ at Apple please complete the appropriate form at:

     

    http://www.apple.com/feedback/macosx.html

     

    Most users here already know about the Wi Fi Constantly Dropping in Lion woes and do not need to be constantly reminded.

     

    If you want to further educate yourself you could try reading more of this thread or the many others on Wi Fi issues with Lion, you would then find that many users have come to the same conclusion as yourself. You will also find that users have resolved their issues some of which may be useful to you?

     

    I am not telling you what to do only encouraging you do something positive.

  • Ponzi Level 1 Level 1 (20 points)

    Froggy Grodkin wrote:

     

    Hi Dwigsy

     

    Please don’t get violent with your iMac it is only the ‘messenger’, you need to get to the root of the problem.

     

    Waiting for the ‘fix’ is tantamount to doing nothing, but of course it is down to your choice.

     

    Apple are not going to hear you telling this ‘user to user’ community, if you want them to hear your complaint consider making it known at:

     

    http://www.apple.com/feedback/macosx.html

    Please don't perpetuate the myth that Apple doesn't monitor its own forums. Before Apple changed the format of its forums, Apple actually described in its forum FAQs the role of employees whose responsibility was to monitor forums to pass along information to the appropriate engineering department. I don't think that's changed with the current format. Do you really believe that a company as sophisticated as Apple would ignore such a valuable source of information on its products?

     

    While giving feedback to Apple via the link you've posted is a good idea, don't discourage people from also posting their viewpoints and frustrations here. The advantage is that the information posted here is available for all to read, which provides added incentive for Apple to solve a problem.

     

    In the iPhone forum, there is a very long thread with posts about the battery life of the new iPhone 4s. Several posters have mentioned that they have been contacted by Apple engineers who have read their posts to obtain further information about their phone's setup and usage. So, while this is a "user-to-user" forum, Apple engineers do appear to obtain valuable data from the posts.

  • Allan Eckert Level 8 Level 8 (46,735 points)

    Then why does Apple state the exact opposite and recommend that the feedback site be used instead of here?

     

    Allan

  • lupunus Level 3 Level 3 (995 points)

    Allan Eckert wrote:

     

    Then why does Apple state the exact opposite and recommend that the feedback site be used instead of here?

    Allen,

    eventually because they want to read rant and "me too" posts?

  • William Kucharski Level 6 Level 6 (14,890 points)

    Ponzi wrote:

     

    Please don't perpetuate the myth that Apple doesn't monitor its own forums.

     

    From the Apple Discussions Terms of Use:

     

    • Apple involvement. Apple does not formally provide technical support on the Site. However, any information that is provided by Apple or Apple employees is offered on an “AS IS” basis without warranties of any kind.
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