Does anyone recommend OS X Lion?

You have spent the last 36 hours sorting out your problems? Really? I think you need some sleep. Or be specific and tell us, we are learning also.

The Mac OS was SUPPOSED to be the OS that you could just use. Remember, "it just works"?

The idea was that you shouldn't have to be a plumber to get water to come out of your faucet and you shouldn

t have to be an engineer to get your computer to work. The Mac was built to with the idea of making computers easy to use for the everyday person.

Lion is a blatant embarrassment to all that Apple is supposed to stand for.

Oh, I've seen indexing take considerably longer than that. My personal record is well over four days. Lion actually is faster than SL was at indexing. The thing is, mds didn't use as much RAM under SL, so a lot of people didn't notice that it was taking days to index their machines.

Part of your problem is that you only have 2 GB. Lion will run in 2 GB, but you won't like it. Get that RAM up to 4, or more, GB, as soon as you can afford it. It'll be money well spent. You'll notice that the only machines which Apple is still selling with 2 GB are MacBook Airs, and even there they're selling just one model out of 4 which has 2 GB. The SSD will make up for a lot of the RAM problems, but 2 GB is still inadequate, and I suspect they know it. I further suspect that the bottom-level MBA is not long for the world, precisely because it only has 2 GB of RAM... unles they find a way to shoehorn another 2 GB into there.

As for the lack of Rosetta... I wish that Apple had said something, too. There is, however, absolutely nothing we can do about. it.

Ah... we talking about the same Lion? The dumbed-down, iDevice-madeover, gesture-filled, toy of an OS that Apple shipped instead of a real OS, right? Resume, iDevice Gestures, Versions, LaunchBad, AutoSave, Full Screen Apps, these are all misbegotten wastes of space designed to make things easier. (and to irk the **** out of experienced users.) You think that Lion is difficult to use? O-kay. <backs away slowly>

I recomend it! I think it is blatenly AWSOME! Keep the line moving, otherwise be specific with your qestions (one qestion per thread - preferably a closed end question), or help some one that needs support. But don't call something a blatant embarrassment. Those guys have worked very hard and to have have some one in a mere whisp insult another persons inovation, hard work, creativness, and inspiration. Come on!!! Most of us are hard workers, and would be insulted if some one made a statement as vague as yours. What is your question, I will try to help you. Your metaphor does not make sense also.

Charles Dyer wrote:

Part of your problem is that you only have 2 GB. Lion will run in 2 GB, but you won't like it.

Kittendaddy has only 2.5 GB of RAM in his white MacBook, and he isn't having any problems (knock wood). Of course he pretty much uses it for Facebook and iTunes, so... yeah.

Charles Dyer wrote:

LaunchBad

Was that a typo or was it deliberate? Either way, LOL forever! 😁

Ok. I've been using the Mac since 1985 and have spent my life in the software industry since 1989. I have Lion and Lion Server on a 2010 quad iMac with 12 GB of RAM and on a 1 month old 17 inch MPB with 4 GB of RAM.

1. scrolling using the magic Mouse often starts by scrolling the/a window BEHIND the window in focus.

2. No more shortcut key to open Downloads in Safari.

3. I was entering text into a web page in Safari. Pressed command semicolon to spell check. Clicked ignore on a word. The page reloaded and I lost all my text. 100% reproducable.

4. The Finder's icons for prev and next are SO CLOSE in color that it is very hard to tell the difference between enabled and disabled buttons.

5. When copying in the Finder, "Ignore Duplicates" is removed.

6. In Snow Leopard Finder, choosing list view (command 2) then pressing command control 1 sorted by the file Name. Pressing it again reversed the sort order. You can't do this now.

7. Bounce Mail is removed from email.

8. These extra animations can't be turned off if a user finds them too distracting.

9. if you have Server installed, Airdrop is completely non functional, yet shows up in the Finder Favorites bar.

10. Server does not come with all the server admin tools that Snow Leopard Server does.

11. Gestures are flakey. I'm left handed. Many gestures will not work until I use my right hand.

12. Safari seems to want to zoom in on the text at odd times. Can't figure out what I pressed to do that or undo it.

13. Installed Left 4 Dead 2 last week on the 12 GB iMac. There is a serious frame rate drop even after installing an update.

14. Installing xCode took about 4 hours (each time). It was waiting for iTunes to quit, yet never told me.

15. xCode failed copying from one Mac to another since the HD "didn't support symlinks". It started working later.

16. Mail and Safari's animations are DISTRACTING and annoying on a 27 inch screen.

17. Mission Control's background looks like a lego board. That isn't consistant with the Mac UI.

18. iCal and Address book's new "realistic" GUIs stand out in an inconsistant and ugly way.

19. Create 2 Safari windows, download a file. Click on the Finder and click on one of the Safari download buttons. The Safari window closes.

20. No more Safari downloads window I can easily open with a command key or menu item and select contents.

21. The old scroll bars worked just fine thank you. How are these new ones better?

22. Bouncing when reaching the end of a scroll region is not good. Can I turn it off? Who knows.

23. Last night, I went to sleep playing podcasts on my 3 week old 2800 dollar MBP. This morning when I woke up, the machine was so non responsive to wake up and to respond to clicks that I had to restart it to get performance back.

I could go on. Really, I could. It's just been a few days and I've tested software professionally before and I develop software professionally now. These changes, functionality removals and changes are bad with no way to revert to how it was before besides reinstalling the previous OS. The animations are window dressing that you can't turn off. Apple should not put something like this out in the hands of people who value their own time and actually LIKE Apple products.

I no longer feel comfortable that I can do something on my Mac without breaking something or losing data.

In the office, I still have Snow Leopard on my 24 inch iMac, and I am very thankful for that. At least my xCode App isn't broken on that machine, but you can bet that it is on Lion.

If you try to do more than very simple things, you'll have serious problems with less than 4 GB. Email, basic web surfing, iTunes... that'll work, most of the time, in 2 GB or so. You will have to quit Safari periodically to prevent it from eating all the RAM, though.

Alex Zavatone wrote:

17. Mission Control's background looks like a lego board. That isn't consistant with the Mac UI.

18. iCal and Address book's new "realistic" GUIs stand out in an inconsistant and ugly way.

OMG yes and yes.

I hate Mission Control so much I removed it from my Dock. Seemed like a pointless app to me.

Charles Dyer wrote:

If you try to do more than very simple things, you'll have serious problems with less than 4 GB. Email, basic web surfing, iTunes... that'll work, most of the time, in 2 GB or so. You will have to quit Safari periodically to prevent it from eating all the RAM, though.

Ahhhh, that might be why Facebook crapped out on him earlier tonight. A restart (of the computer, not Safari) fixed it.

I see more RAM in his future.

I've called it LaunchBad ever since I saw the complete waste of space for the first time.

For some reason some of the guys at Apple don't like it when I refer to it that way. How sad. Too bad. It's a rewrite of Switcher, from 1985! Sheesh! Switcher was good, in its day, but its day is long gone.

Charles Dyer wrote:

I've called it LaunchBad ever since I saw the complete waste of space for the first time.

I actually kind of like LaunchPad.

What? 😝

24. Can't press command D and more as a shortcut to "do not save changes to this document while I am trying to close it".

The more I use Lion, the more I find that functionality I used as if it were second nature are just gone.

I call the new Address Book and iCal leather look the Lady Heather Look, in honor of a certain periodic character on CSI. Someone at Apple has issues and really needs a visit from Lady Heather...