Does anyone recommend OS X Lion?

Kittenmommy wrote:

I lost my entire iPhoto library when I went from Tiger to Leopard. Apple couldn't tell me why that happened. Luckily, Backup (OMG, remember Backup??) saved the day! 😁

But yeah, I was not a very happy or satisfied Apple customer that day, let me tell you! 😠

The important lesson to take away from this story is you "planned ahead" and had a backup. Despite the problem you had you were able to recover your photos.

Michael Allbritton wrote:

Kittenmommy wrote:

I lost my entire iPhoto library when I went from Tiger to Leopard. Apple couldn't tell me why that happened. Luckily, Backup (OMG, remember Backup??) saved the day! 😁

But yeah, I was not a very happy or satisfied Apple customer that day, let me tell you! 😠

The important lesson to take away from this story is you "planned ahead" and had a backup. Despite the problem you had you were able to recover your photos.

Bingo.

And also, new software is often buggy and upredictable. Yes, even when it's from Apple. 😉

No, I don't recommend Lion. It's a lot of pain, lies and heartache.

Donald Fowler wrote:

No, I don't recommend Lion. It's a lot of pain, lies and heartache.

So, Lion is basically a couple of my ex-boyfriends. 😉

Cthulhu wrote:

I love some of the new UX and UI, and I am confident bugs by both Apple and vendors with get ironed out. But if the trend is to eliminate the desktop UX and give me a cutesy UI, I am going to Ubuntu or Vista or something. This is the first time I can say that both of them have a better UI than Apple, and no one should underestimate the UI/UX for something they work with all day everyday.

I really don't know what you mean. Apple has not "eliminated the desktop" in Lion. In fact Finder and the Desktop is essentially the same as it was in Snow Leopard, Leopard, etc., on back. One huge improvement to the Finder that has finally been made is it is now fully 64-bit. Other than that, I don't see the "cutesy UI" you seem to be seeing.

People always accuse the new, .0 OS of being "buggy" when in fact they really don't know what that word means.

This is so true and could not be stated enough in these discussions. Just because something does not work on someone's machine, or even several machines, does not warrent headlines like "xxxx is not working - Lion Rots - I'm Leaving and Going Back to SL - What Was Apple Thinking - My Life is Over." It would be so much easier to help people if they just cut the bull and said something like, "This is not working, here is my setup, here is what I am doing when the problem occurs, and here is log file (or whatever other diagnostics I can muster)." But I guess if folks did that, these boards would not be half as entertaining.

I don't see anything to get excited about with Lion, and no reason to update right now. Eventually you'll have to in order to stay compatible, but really, right now this appears little more than cosmetics on a bad make-up day to my mind.

I suspect that experienced iPhone and iPad users will have an easier time understanding where Apple hopes to go with Lion and its future offspring. Whether Lion is worth getting excited about is a personal matter, but it certainly represents far more than a cosmetic makeover.

Bullseye.

My point about iCloud is that we don't know if it will work with SL, it appears that many things about Lion are not backward compatible any more, after many transitions and upgrades that have been. Apple appear to be adopting the Windows method of selling more hardware.

It is obvious from these disscussions that my late 2007 macbook & mini wont run Lion without the RAM upgrade whereas up till know it has been no problem, on top of that it is clear that Airdrop is not going to work with my hardware and if you read the posts regarding Airdrop, a lot of people are finding that newer machines will not work with it either.

Loss of backward compatibility over time is a fact of life. I still keep an old G4 powerbook, which dual-boots into Tiger or Leopard, just to run an old Classic app that doesn't even run on Leopard, which is itself four years old.

Your claim that Apple is trying to sell more hardware doesn't hold water. Any Mac with an Intel Core 2 Duo or later will do the job. The first Core 2 Duo machines came out five years ago, in 2006. In terms of computer technology, that's really old. As for your complaint about having to upgrade the RAM in your machines, RAM is so dirt cheap (and so easy to install) that your concern is almost laughable.

Michael - what I mean is the leather and book fun in Address Book and iCal, and the Linen everywhere including Safari. Some of this is subjective, some is not. For example, I am a neat and organized person, and I find the torn edges on the paper cutesy and I would never do that in real life. What is not subjective is the inconsistencies. For example, in Safari the reading list has a linen background, the bookmarks do not. These inconsistencies make the final product seem unpolished, unfinshed, and unrefined. Linen, leather, and torn edges to me are "cutesy" or "cheezy."

Under the hood, I see a lot of good things. But there is an old Turkish proverb that says a spot of mold spoils the whole slice of bread. It is difficult to justify some of the improvements if I have to live with some of the UX shortcomings.

Other posters have also mentioned, as have Gizmodo et al, that the new Mission Control just does not work as well as the old Expose and Spaces for those of us will ginourmous screens. So the trend seems to be accomiodating the laptops (which I love because I work on one all the time) and the mobiles. But this seems to be done at the expense of the desktop user, which need not be the case. I suspect I am not alone in living a dual life, where I work on code and math all day on a big screen, then take it on the road.

Give it a rest, dude.😁

So, Lion is basically a couple of my ex-boyfriends.

Beasts! All of 'em.

coocooforcocoapuffs wrote:

So, Lion is basically a couple of my ex-boyfriends.

Beasts! All of 'em.

LOL! They belong in a zoo somewhere!

For example, I am a neat and organized person, and I find the torn edges on the paper cutesy and I would never do that in real life.

This I can agree with. The torn paper look of iCal is cutesy. I understand what I think Apple is doing, though, I don't really like it. But it is so minor for me that I just ignore it. The new look for Address Book I like.

For example, in Safari the reading list has a linen background, the bookmarks do not. These inconsistencies make the final product seem unpolished, unfinshed, and unrefined. Linen, leather, and torn edges to me are "cutesy" or "cheezy."

This is can also agree with, although, again, in my opinion it is so minor that I just ignore the inconsistencies since they don't affect the work or pleasure I am trying to get done.

As to Mission Control, yes, it does work differently than Expose and Spaces did individually. However I'm finding the collision of the two to be better for me. I never really used spaces prior to Lion, but with the new full screen capatilities of some apps I find I am using them more and I like how, for example Mail, jumps to its own Space when I go full screen. And Aperture is just great for me in full screen in its own Space. So for me, Mission Control is working. But it is subjective and folks will have to get used to the new way it works.

Perhaps it is because I was in the customer seed program, and I've been using Lion for a few months already, but I don't find using it all that different from Snow Leopard. I've just been integrating some of the new features into my daily workflow. Launchpad, on the other hand, I don't use at all so I just removed the icon from my Dock.

Adobe has spent most of the last decade trying as hard as possible to avoid supporting Macs....

As for the way some people are crying because stuff doesn't work anymore... Apple's been doing this for decades...

Anyone who does not have a backup, when it's so simple and so cheap to do so, will get very little sympathy from me. Anyone who did not at least visit the websites of the vendors of your most important hardware and software and checked to see what they said about Lion (Microsoft, for example, was quite explicit about it) and who didn't bother to do a Google search for comments _before_ updating, well, next time they'll do their due dilligence, won't they?

Tell it like it is, brother Charles! 😁