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Help! iChat for Mac OS X Lion! Yahoo Messenger!

So today i just got Mac OS X Lion on Mac App Store, I just install it, a FRESH install, and i tried to contact my friend with iChat. I heard that iChat now supported Yahoo Messenger! So i log on my account, work perfect with Text chatting, but when i tried to Video Call chatting, it's said: "Yahoo! is not supported video calls."





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MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.6.8), With Windows 7 32-bit

Posted on Jul 20, 2011 2:51 PM

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Posted on Jul 21, 2011 9:34 AM

As far as I know, you can only video chat using Yahoo on iChat if the person you are video chatting with also uses iChat.

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Jul 21, 2011 2:34 PM in response to bryan115

Hi,


In iChat 3, 4 and 5 the GoogleTalk and other Jabber accounts you set up can only Video or Audio Only chat to Other iChat Users

This means you cannot Video to Anyone using the PC Standalone Apps called GoogleTalk,

Or to anyone Logged in with a Browser to the Google Mail Web Page chat option,

Or to Anyone using a Jabber app that can Video.

All the larger IM Service use different Protocols when it comes to Video and Audio

Jabber use one called Jingle. (the Google Version of this is not compatible with other Jabber apps either)

It is not compatible with the SIP process iChat uses.


I don't expect the Yahoo Account to be any different.

You will know when a Buddy is using iChat as they will display a video icon (Other Budduies will not).


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10:34 PM Thursday; July 21, 2011

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 G4/1GhzDual MDD (Leopard 10.5.8)
 MacBookPro 2Gb( 10.6.8)
 Mac OS X (10.6.8),
"Limit the Logs to the Bits above Binary Images."  No, Seriously

Aug 14, 2011 2:22 PM in response to bryan115

I have read everyone's response to this post and I have to say I can not even video or audio with other people using yahoo ichat to yahoo ichat. My mom has a macbook with lion I have a macbook pro with lion and we can not for the life of us get video chat to work while logged into our yahoo accounts via ichat! Please help us out! You should also know that I have gone to the genius bar for this problem and after two hours they could not help and told me that is probably not supported yet even though I pulled up where it said on the apple.com site that it would!! Sad face I love my ichat but I will contiue to use the yahoo chat download from the web. Ichat=useless!

Aug 14, 2011 2:44 PM in response to lrphair99

Hi,


Are you using just a Yahoo Name in iChat ?


Does the Buddy show Video Icon ?

Is your View Menu set to Show Video and Audio Statuses ?
Is your Buddy ?



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10:43 PM Sunday; August 14, 2011

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 G4/1GhzDual MDD (Leopard 10.5.8)
 MacBookPro 2Gb( 10.6.8)
 Mac OS X (10.6.8),
"Limit the Logs to the Bits above Binary Images."  No, Seriously

Aug 14, 2011 2:50 PM in response to Ralph-Johns-UK

I'm using yahoo, google, aim, and facebook IDs on ichat and only the aim does video. Yahoo does not and thats the one I need the most. My moms is set up the same way and only video works on aim on hers as well. and yes the view menu is set to show video and audio. any other suggestion I am open to them I just want my Yahoo video to work in ichat sooooo bad! oh and the buddies show no video icon next to them and I don't show video icon on theirs just next to my name at the top. If you want to try let me know.

Aug 14, 2011 4:11 PM in response to bryan115

I have the same problem... I upgraded to Lion hopping that yahoo messenger will finaly work propperly,but it don't.

I bought my imac in 2010 and at first i was able to use voice chat with YM on Snow leopard... afer a while it stopped working since then i was waiting for a update or something. Contacted with Yahoo...they sayd is my computer,contacted with apple they sayd it's yahoo.

Now i end up using Skype as ther is no final solution for YM.

Hope that in the next 10 years or so they look into it.

Thanks.

Aug 15, 2011 12:02 PM in response to lrphair99

Umm,


In iChat 3, 4 and 5 you can do VIdeo chats with Jabber IDs as well as AIM ones

Google run a Jabber Server for GoogleTalk.


The proviso is that the other end has to be using iChat as well because of the Protocols iChat uses to Connect the call.

(The AIM side should work to AIM on a PC and to Trillian Pro on a PC as well.)


I can see no reason why this would stop in iChat 6 (Waiting for a Buddy I know has both AIM and Jabber IDs to test with as they will also have iChat 6)


Testing a Yahoo to Yahoo name with iChat to iChat is going to be more difficult for me to check.


Most of the posts on the subject have been trying to Video to the Yahoo App either on a PC or on Mac (not running Lion).

It will not work from iChat to Yahoo App due to the different Protocols involved.



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8:02 PM Monday; August 15, 2011

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 MacBookPro 2Gb( 10.6.8)
 Mac OS X (10.6.8),
"Limit the Logs to the Bits above Binary Images."  No, Seriously

Aug 15, 2011 12:17 PM in response to ciurybury

Hi,

The Yahoo for Mac has been in Beta for more years than I care to remember.

It seems it uses port 80 to pop up the Yahoo Insider browser type thing.

Port 443 seems to be used to Login.

Port 5050 is used to put up the Video Feed.

Port 3478 is used to make the Audio Connections.


The two lower numbers are below the 1024 threshold which your router should have open by default.

The other two are obviously higher.

This will need UPnP or some other method of allowing the ports. If Port Forwarding is /was used then it Must point (list the Computer's IP) to the correct computer.

(I am presuming you have it allowed through the Mac Firewall if ON)



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8:17 PM Monday; August 15, 2011

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 G4/1GhzDual MDD (Leopard 10.5.8)
 MacBookPro 2Gb( 10.6.8)
 Mac OS X (10.6.8),
"Limit the Logs to the Bits above Binary Images."  No, Seriously

Aug 15, 2011 12:19 PM in response to Ralph-Johns-UK

Edit that I missed for this Post.


If you go to the Applications Folder and re-do the Get Info on iChat, is the App set to run in 32bit (in the top section of the Info Panel) ?

IF it is set it to run in 64Bit Mode


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8:19 PM Monday; August 15, 2011

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 G4/1GhzDual MDD (Leopard 10.5.8)
 MacBookPro 2Gb( 10.6.8)
 Mac OS X (10.6.8),
"Limit the Logs to the Bits above Binary Images."  No, Seriously

Aug 15, 2011 12:34 PM in response to Ralph-Johns-UK

hi..Thanks for your quick response.

I just installed on a small partition SL 10.6.3 and yahoo messenger work like a charm.

Is there a way to reset all settings for YM in Lion,and install YM again.When i upgraded to Lion kept all my settings.

I mean a way to do in manually because with some 3-rd party app see that is not working.

I'm going to reboot now with lion and check is ichat is running in 32 bit mode.BTW the firewall is off.I have Sophos antivirus but YM worked after i installed the antivirus.

I'll be back!

Aug 15, 2011 1:21 PM in response to ciurybury

To be clear.


iChat 5 needed to be set to run in 32bit mode for some Add-ons.

Most if not all of these do not work in iChat 6 and iChat 6 needs to run in 64bit mode.


However even if you remove the Add-ons you may still have to clear the .plist involved and change iChat from 32bit to 64bit.



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9:21 PM Monday; August 15, 2011

Please, if posting Logs, do not post any Log info after the line "Binary Images for iChat"


 G4/1GhzDual MDD (Leopard 10.5.8)
 MacBookPro 2Gb( 10.6.8)
 Mac OS X (10.6.8),
"Limit the Logs to the Bits above Binary Images."  No, Seriously

Aug 15, 2011 3:56 PM in response to Ralph-Johns-UK

Ok... i understud...

ichat is set in 64 bit mode,fire wall is off, i opened the port 3478 in my router... stil nothing.

I'm running the downloaded YM app and it's workin fine... video,text but no voice chat.Thats why i'm thinking that the problem is in the system configuration... had the same problem running 10.6.3 till upgrading to 10.7 everything working exept voice chat.It's not because YM is not compatible with Lion...i guess.

Or if you want to take a look i'll give you my teamviewer id and pass.

Thank you for your help!

Aug 16, 2011 11:47 AM in response to ciurybury

Hi,


iChat and Audio.


This has always been set by the System > Preferences > Sound > Input as far as the volumes you Buddies hear you. (Rather you turning this up has greater effect than them turning up their master volume)


This for a long time presumed there was only the Internal Mic or Line in on most Macs. (And that you weren't using Line-in despite showing both choices in the iChat Mic Drop down in iChat Preferences > Video Section)

Later this became an issue for Headsets particularly Blue Tooth ones.


These require that you set the System Preferences choice and volume first before then choosing them in iChat.

(If already set change both choices to something else.

Close iChat

Set the System Preferences choice to the Blue Tooth or Headset.

Now open iChat and set the choice there.)


In all cases since iChat 4 it has been possible to set the Volume level for a device (mic) in System Preferences and that it does not change you can use that selection in iChat but change the choice in system Preferences for other input/app combos. (i.e. once the volume is set for the device iChat uses the choice/headline device in System Preferences can be changedready for other apps)


I have never tested the Yahoo Beta in any build or sub version number for Audio Chats before today.

I tested between my G4/1Ghz Dual Processor running Leopard and my MacBook Pro running Snow Leoaprd.

Yahoo is allowed thogh both Mac Firewalls and the Modem/router combined device is doing UPnP.

Despite checking my Mic Settings in System Preferences on the G4 the Audio level seemed somehow to get turned down.

It stayed in the "right" place after I checked again.

Strangely the G4's older Yahoo Version 3.0.0 can Initiate an Audio Chat but the option is greyed out on the current Yahoo Version 3.0.1 that the MacBook Pro is running.


I will do some more digging.

However it would seem in your case that the Mic choice and Volume level would be the palce to start as it effects both apps.



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7:47 PM Tuesday; August 16, 2011

Please, if posting Logs, do not post any Log info after the line "Binary Images for iChat"


 G4/1GhzDual MDD (Leopard 10.5.8)
 MacBookPro 2Gb( 10.6.8)
 Mac OS X (10.6.8),
"Limit the Logs to the Bits above Binary Images."  No, Seriously

Aug 16, 2011 1:11 PM in response to Ralph-Johns-UK

I tryed the system preferences too and nothing...

with ichat i can't start the voice chat because is grey...with yahoo beta i can start the voice chat and for about 2 min is saying: connecting to server... after 2 min or so is syang: could not connect to server...

So...thank you for your help and for your time but i'm going to leave this as it is because is not worth the time.I'm going to tell my friends that if they dont have a skype account is time to make one if they want to V chat with me and hope that in the future Yahoo release a beter and stable version of messenger.Or if i'll have time or patience i will reinstall everything from scratch.

Thanks again Ralph.

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