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Q: Lion WiFi Connection Problem

Since installing Lion on both my IMac and MacBook Pro, the WiFi cycles (wifi icon on the menu bar) - looking for network - network on - looking for network. iMac with OS 10.6 doesn't have this problem so it's not the AirPort and there was no problem prior to installing Lion.  The AirPort Utility log shows lots of connection activity but I don't know if that means anything. The network troubleshooter says theres no problem but it's causing big problems with connection speed and applications that need a constant connection are giving me network errors constantly.  Please give me some advise.... 

Posted on Jul 20, 2011 5:19 PM

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  • by lupunus,

    lupunus lupunus Oct 5, 2011 4:08 PM in response to Uby
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    Oct 5, 2011 4:08 PM in response to Uby

    Uby wrote:

     

    Another point I noticed is that the Wifi signal level seems really incorrect... once you connect to the router the signal level seems always much higher of what really is..

    http://macs.about.com/od/LionTipsNtricks/qt/Os-X-Lion-Wi-Fi-Diagnostics.htm

  • by hormelmeatcompany,

    hormelmeatcompany hormelmeatcompany Oct 5, 2011 4:09 PM in response to Chris-King
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    Oct 5, 2011 4:09 PM in response to Chris-King

    What sorts of things do you see in Console.app? I usually search for airport in the search box to narrow things down.

  • by Shivetya,

    Shivetya Shivetya Oct 5, 2011 4:27 PM in response to DeimosL
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    Oct 5, 2011 4:27 PM in response to DeimosL

    Problem was with the length of the wireless encryption key using WPA2 Personal.  The key I had been using was within the specs, worked fine on Windows, router, Airport Express and Time Capsule but not OK under SL.  But it was OK sometimes.  Often after startup it would fail but often if manually switched-off the back on it would work.  When I changed the encryption key to be shorter (in my case down to 10 characters) it all worked fine.  The intermittent nature suggested un--initialised memory so maybe something in Lion has brought out the problem.

     

    I had a ten character password, phone number to the local pizza joint, and I still had problems under Lion. I went to twenty and it is less frequent so I am not all that sure its a password length issue. I have also tried the trick with setting any change to require a password but failed at least once since then.

     

    I still need to test losing the connection and seeing the parallels sessions can connect.

  • by Uby,

    Uby Uby Oct 5, 2011 4:45 PM in response to lrogersinlv
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    Oct 5, 2011 4:45 PM in response to lrogersinlv

    Ok my final thought. It's not only Lion and the Atheros card.

     

    The router type is surely playing a role because my Lion setup which is completely stucked with the router I'm normally using becomes perfectly working if I connect the iMac i7 to the Wireless network created by the Hotspot function of my iPhone.

     

    In this case the access to Internet is perfect and super fast.

     

    Conclusion : Problem is happening with

     

    Lion 10.7.x + Certain type of Atheros Card (definitely the AR9280 installed in my iMac) + certain type of router

     

    This is at least narrowing the problem.

     

    I'd like to have a survery of the Atheros card which are causing the problem.

     

    Folr example the Atheros 5416 card in my older Macbook pro is not affected.

     

    Uby

  • by nipper123,

    nipper123 nipper123 Oct 5, 2011 4:48 PM in response to Uby
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    Oct 5, 2011 4:48 PM in response to Uby

    Sorry to reasd that—now try this. Use the MacBook (which is working well under Lion) to share a WIRED Ethernet connection over wifi to the core i7 iMac that is having problems.

    Do you get good connections?

  • by Uby,

    Uby Uby Oct 5, 2011 5:20 PM in response to lrogersinlv
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    Oct 5, 2011 5:20 PM in response to lrogersinlv

    Hello Nipper,

    thanks again for your support !!

    unfortunately I cannot test your proposal because in my flat I have no Wired Ethernet connection.

    I cannot access phisically the router and I get only the wireless signal...

     

    :-(

     

    Uby

  • by Uby,

    Uby Uby Oct 5, 2011 5:23 PM in response to lrogersinlv
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    Oct 5, 2011 5:23 PM in response to lrogersinlv

    An awful workaround in my specific case would be to share the wifi Lion connection which is working perfectly on the Macbook by a WIRED Ethernet cable going to the iMac...

     

    This would mean that I should always keep the 2 mac turned on to allow the iMac to access internet...

     

    real crap !!

     

    Uby

  • by lupunus,

    lupunus lupunus Oct 5, 2011 5:34 PM in response to Uby
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    Oct 5, 2011 5:34 PM in response to Uby

    Uby wrote:

     

    real crap !!

    Did you use the OS X Lion built-in Wi-Fi Diagnostics application?

     

    If you want to use it, do not use it on the machine with the problem if you want reliable reports about the wireless.

  • by ryyjma from san fedele intelvi,

    ryyjma from san fedele intelvi ryyjma from san fedele intelvi Oct 6, 2011 7:38 AM in response to lrogersinlv
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    Oct 6, 2011 7:38 AM in response to lrogersinlv

    Hallo! Adesso si comincia a dire che neanche la 10.7.2 risolverà il problema: se cosi fosse, cosa dovrei fare, io? MI tengo il mio IMac col wi-fi che non funziona?.....ma scherziamo? Io ho comprato un Mac, non un PC!

     

    Hallo! Now you begin to say that even the 10.7.2 solve the problem: if so, what should I do? Keep my iMac with the wi-fi does not work ?..... Are you kidding? I bought a Mac, not a PC!

  • by Stephen Antonacci,

    Stephen Antonacci Stephen Antonacci Oct 6, 2011 11:08 AM in response to lrogersinlv
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    Oct 6, 2011 11:08 AM in response to lrogersinlv

    I have Lion Mac OS X 10.7.2 (11C73) (GM Relase Build) and I can tell you that on my MacBookPro3,1 the Wifi instability and disconnects are still present aswell as a problem with the NetBios Name not appearing on the network when the computer is connected through Wifi instead of ethernet. You should test this Netbios issue on your machines to see if the problem is specific to notebooks because on my setup which is a very apple specific setup I am using an apple timecapsule latest generation the netbios problem doesn't occure on a late 2009 imac. This problem of the netbios name not appearing has develped with the upgrade and release of lion... Snow Leopard did not have this problem and I tested that by downgrading to snow leopard. This netbios name problem creates havok for SMB shares since windows cant even find the machine. I was hoping that 10.7.2 would fix this it wont... I am letting you know that you are going to be dissapointed if you think this release will fix wifi as well as SMB problems it doesn't... I am very upset with how long this is taking to fix it is clearly a bug numours posts and messages to apple I would really advice apple customers to complain in the feedback http://www.apple.com/feedback/macosx.html and bug reports http://developer.apple.com/bugreporter/.. Hope they fix this with an interm update however it most likely wont be fixed until 10.7.3 and maybe not even by then.

  • by lupunus,

    lupunus lupunus Oct 6, 2011 11:27 AM in response to Stephen Antonacci
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    Oct 6, 2011 11:27 AM in response to Stephen Antonacci

    Stephen Antonacci wrote:

    I answered to your contribution in the other thread. Take a look on that.

  • by Stephen Antonacci,

    Stephen Antonacci Stephen Antonacci Oct 6, 2011 11:35 AM in response to lupunus
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    Oct 6, 2011 11:35 AM in response to lupunus

    I have tried everthing to get this computer to appear on the network it will not.. The only thing that made it appear back in windows was downgrading to Snow leopard.... What upsets me about this is now my laptop has to be chained down connected to Ethernet in order to perform In a Windows World.

     

    Things I have Tried...

    1. Restore Machine

    2. Format and use default configuration not a restored one by setting up completley new user this method fixes the screwed up checkbox in the smb sharing user settings.

    3. Change Default Netbios name make the name one word as well as deleting the system configuation folder.

    4. Restoring the time capsule and resetting it up.

    5. Connect to a wireless network without security.

     

     

    Nothing has worked the only thing that worked is a downgrade to snow leopard this is a definite bug in lion.

  • by BenM77,

    BenM77 BenM77 Oct 8, 2011 1:35 AM in response to BenM77
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    Oct 8, 2011 1:35 AM in response to BenM77

    Hi All

     

    An update on my fault finding.

     

    With AppleCare support = reset PRAM and SMC and trash systemconfiguration.

     

    Next morning my wifi had turned off ( I leave iMac on for appletv's) and I had to connect manually.

     

    Yesterday I used disk utility and did the repair disk permissions.

     

    I then did multiple sleep/wake with no issue. Slept for 10mins and an hour.

     

    Woke up this morning and checked my iPhone and the shared library was still there, meaning iMac had lasted a whole night :-)

     

    I will update tomorrow, if it fails again then I will continue with apple support.

     

    Summary

     

    Try disk utility, repair disk permissions.

     

    Ben

  • by Jan23,

    Jan23 Jan23 Oct 9, 2011 3:22 AM in response to JonPi
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    Oct 9, 2011 3:22 AM in response to JonPi

    Next day I'll call apple support....

  • by Jan23,

    Jan23 Jan23 Oct 9, 2011 3:58 AM in response to Jan23
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    Oct 9, 2011 3:58 AM in response to Jan23

    I have install the 10.7.2 developer version....still same problem...

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