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Q: Lion WiFi Connection Problem

Since installing Lion on both my IMac and MacBook Pro, the WiFi cycles (wifi icon on the menu bar) - looking for network - network on - looking for network. iMac with OS 10.6 doesn't have this problem so it's not the AirPort and there was no problem prior to installing Lion.  The AirPort Utility log shows lots of connection activity but I don't know if that means anything. The network troubleshooter says theres no problem but it's causing big problems with connection speed and applications that need a constant connection are giving me network errors constantly.  Please give me some advise.... 

Posted on Jul 20, 2011 5:19 PM

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  • by He's all choked,

    He's all choked He's all choked Jul 6, 2012 7:04 AM in response to MadMacs0
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    Jul 6, 2012 7:04 AM in response to MadMacs0

    I tried it with 'link local only' as there is no 'off' setting, unfortunately it still times out.

  • by Eric491,

    Eric491 Eric491 Jul 6, 2012 12:11 PM in response to He's all choked
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    Jul 6, 2012 12:11 PM in response to He's all choked

    Go to terminal, type "networksetup setv6off wi-fi"

    That will disable ipv6

  • by emsny,

    emsny emsny Jul 7, 2012 3:52 PM in response to BenHart67
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    Jul 7, 2012 3:52 PM in response to BenHart67

    BenHart67, greetings.

     

    Has there been any progress on this with Apple? Following this and another thread, I find people trying numerous scary fixes that don't appear to resolve the problem. I keep hoping to find a system update in "Software Update" but so far there's been nothing. Thanks again for working with Apple to identify the problem and find a solution.

  • by freediverx01,

    freediverx01 freediverx01 Jul 7, 2012 4:06 PM in response to emsny
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    Jul 7, 2012 4:06 PM in response to emsny

    I tried most of the suggested workarounds - including deleting my network settings and setting them back up from scratch - but the issue always returned shortly afterwards. What seems to have permanently resolved the problem (for the last 48 hours at least) is replacement of my Time Capsule with a current model Airport Extreme. However I'm not convinced there was anything wrong with the Time Capsule and I'm certain the issue was on my iMac - probably software related, and probably related to the last Lion update.

     

    My main reason for this assumption is the fact that none of my other devices - iPhone, iPad, MacBook Pro - ever experienced this issue while connected to the Time Capsule's wi-fi network. This eliminates all the theories about wireless interference in my view, especially given that I've had the same wireless setup with this iMac for three years with no problems.

     

    I should also note that the main reason I replaced my router was the desire for dual-band functionality so I could have 5GHz speeds for most devices while simultaneously supporting 2GHz for devices that don't support it, like my iPhone and PS3. I also wanted the guest network feature to eliminate hassles when I have gadget loving friends over. And finally, I found myself questioning the value of the Time Capsule's integrated backup hard drive, given its high price and limited/inconvenient upgrade options as my backup storange requirements have grown.

  • by freediverx01,

    freediverx01 freediverx01 Jul 7, 2012 4:07 PM in response to Eric491
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    Jul 7, 2012 4:07 PM in response to Eric491

    "Go to terminal, type "networksetup setv6off wi-fi" That will disable ipv6"

     

    Give this doesn't affect any devices other than the iMac why do some feel this has something to do with iPv6?

  • by gphonei,

    gphonei gphonei Jul 7, 2012 6:30 PM in response to freediverx01
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    Jul 7, 2012 6:30 PM in response to freediverx01

    freediverx01 wrote:

     

    "Go to terminal, type "networksetup setv6off wi-fi" That will disable ipv6"

     

    Give this doesn't affect any devices other than the iMac why do some feel this has something to do with iPv6?

    Based on the reports here, some people have the problem, others don't.  Some seem to fix the problem by changing characteristics of their network.  This could infer that the problem in Lion/the driver, occurs when something is not going correctly with the operation of the WiFi network.

     

    If your router does not do IPV6 well, that traffic between your Mac and the router, could cause the connection to reset, and thus create problems since recovery of the connection appears to be the problem.

     

    Others have switched to a new channel, used a fixed channel or switched bands from 2.4ghz to 5ghz to make it work again.

     

    Others have switched routers which may have made IPV6 work correctly etc.

     

    So, trying to change/turn on/off all features that might cause your WiFi connection to fail/work irregularly might help.

  • by gphonei,

    gphonei gphonei Jul 7, 2012 6:34 PM in response to freediverx01
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    Jul 7, 2012 6:34 PM in response to freediverx01

    And finally, I found myself questioning the value of the Time Capsule's integrated backup hard drive, given its high price and limited/inconvenient upgrade options as my backup storange requirements have grown.

    You can, of course, attach additional storage via the USB port on the back of the Time Capsule.  Also, using a Time Capsule provides you the opportunity to get support from Apple to resolve problems if the time capsule is not working.  If you turn on the system flag to allow Time Machine to use other SAMBA visible storage, then you are basically on your own about resolving problems with backups.  For some, that's not such a big deal.

  • by BenHart67,

    BenHart67 BenHart67 Jul 7, 2012 7:10 PM in response to emsny
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    Jul 7, 2012 7:10 PM in response to emsny

    Last I heard was that W&L (and I'm sure Penn as well) has been working with an Apple engineer to hopefully rectify the problem. Many people in my department are actually sharing the opinion that we won't see a fix until Mountain Lion to drive sales. I won't comment on whether I think that's true or not, but I've been out of touch on the situation since our students are out for summer. The fixes for home use here actually HAVE been working for some of the students emailing me over summer. Those same fixes aren't feasible in enterprise environments, so right now there is no known fix.

     

    Trust me, I've been anxious to get on here the second I get word that the engineers have figured out the issue, but I haven't heard news for a couple of months. Sadly, I bet we'll all just have to cross our fingers and hope Mountain Lion is better...

     

    Kind of like Windows 7 was basically a service pack for Vista, many of us are feeling like Mountain Lion will be the same for 10.7.

  • by emsny,

    emsny emsny Jul 7, 2012 8:19 PM in response to BenHart67
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    Jul 7, 2012 8:19 PM in response to BenHart67

    Thanks very kindly for that update, BenHart67. I'd more or less come to the same conclusion: that we'd need to await the next big cat's arrival in the menagerie. Luckly, I've been able to rig up a wired connection for my wife's computer using one of those gizmos that carries a signal through the apartment wiring, so the urgency has  eased - but the frustration lives on.

  • by He's all choked,

    He's all choked He's all choked Jul 9, 2012 7:37 AM in response to Eric491
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    Jul 9, 2012 7:37 AM in response to Eric491

    Thanks that did work to turn of ipv6, however the timeouts live on. I think I have tried every computer side solution I have read to no avail. I can't try anything on the router as it is an enterprise situation. I doubt it is the network at fault, however, because my iPad and iPhone connect fine.

     

    I cannot believe apple hasn't tried harder to fix this with over 380k views on this thread. I called support about this and despite having an iPhone iPad and MacBook air they still tried to charge me $45 for a single call despite my AppleCare just ending recently. Their support used to be much better and I will certainly consider other options when new computer time comes around again.

  • by Vognbygger,

    Vognbygger Vognbygger Jul 13, 2012 2:40 AM in response to lrogersinlv
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    Jul 13, 2012 2:40 AM in response to lrogersinlv

    Dont know if this solution is listed somewhere else in this thread. Or if this is the only solution, But here goes.

     

    Delete wifi from network list. Remember to apply changes . Then reboot. ( I did this while connected to lan, not sure if this makes a difference or not) Then in network i added a new wi-fi service. At first my macbook complained a little with various warnings, but after a minute everything started working again. Hurray.

     

    Hope this may be of some use to anyone out there.

     

    I bought a macbook to avoid spending time configuring, like when using windows. But now i find it that i encounter more and more problems, which I have to fix with no support whatsoever from Apple. Only thing they contribute with is stories about faulty HW, which in most cases is obvious not true. Hope they will change their way of dealing with customers SW issues. 

  • by gphonei,

    gphonei gphonei Jul 13, 2012 7:25 AM in response to Vognbygger
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    Jul 13, 2012 7:25 AM in response to Vognbygger

    Vognbygger wrote:

     

    Dont know if this solution is listed somewhere else in this thread. Or if this is the only solution, But here goes.

    Removing/resetting all WiFi settings and setting things back up, has been a solution for some people.  There have been mixed results on how long that fix laster.

  • by Nogueira,

    Nogueira Nogueira Jul 13, 2012 7:57 AM in response to lrogersinlv
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    Jul 13, 2012 7:57 AM in response to lrogersinlv

    This thread is a good plot for a never ending story.

  • by pbarnes@internode.on.net,

    pbarnes@internode.on.net pbarnes@internode.on.net Jul 13, 2012 8:10 AM in response to Nogueira
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    Jul 13, 2012 8:10 AM in response to Nogueira

    An ever repeating story.  Not sure about the 'good' part.

  • by CT,

    CT CT Jul 13, 2012 8:14 AM in response to freediverx01
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