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Q: Lion WiFi Connection Problem

Since installing Lion on both my IMac and MacBook Pro, the WiFi cycles (wifi icon on the menu bar) - looking for network - network on - looking for network. iMac with OS 10.6 doesn't have this problem so it's not the AirPort and there was no problem prior to installing Lion.  The AirPort Utility log shows lots of connection activity but I don't know if that means anything. The network troubleshooter says theres no problem but it's causing big problems with connection speed and applications that need a constant connection are giving me network errors constantly.  Please give me some advise.... 

Posted on Jul 20, 2011 5:19 PM

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  • by gokhanki,

    gokhanki gokhanki Jul 29, 2011 4:50 AM in response to lrogersinlv
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    Jul 29, 2011 4:50 AM in response to lrogersinlv

    I don't know how but I guess I solved my problem. I am using my iMac without dropping wifi about 4 hours. I had a wifi dropping problem like yours. I format my iMac than installed SL. I had installed flash player, app cleaner, chrome, google earth, parallel, jdowloader, microsoft office, neo office, paintbrush, rapidweaver, vlc, stuff expander, u Toorent and stanza. I wait for two days  . Before installation I delete my wireless network key at keychain this morning. Than installed Lion again. When I first installed Lion, (after installation), I had seen a java update pop-up , but this morning I didn't.

     

    From Turkey,

    Gokhan.

  • by simon57,

    simon57 simon57 Jul 29, 2011 4:56 AM in response to William Kucharski
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    Jul 29, 2011 4:56 AM in response to William Kucharski

    Seems a reasonable point.  However, I have just checked my firmware and found it to be smack up to date.  So I don't think that can be it in my case.

     

    Let's put it like this.  Router and iMac work fine together.  PC and router work fine together.  Laptops and router work fine together.  iPad and router work fine together.  Snow Leopard on iMac and router work fine together.  Lion on iMac and router don't.  Go figure!

  • by nbooradley23,

    nbooradley23 nbooradley23 Jul 29, 2011 5:52 AM in response to William Kucharski
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    Jul 29, 2011 5:52 AM in response to William Kucharski

    Funny enough my router firmware was only recently updated. there is no further update for it right now and its up to date.

     

    Again the issue is snow leopard works and always worked and I did not update the router firmware because of a problem, I updated because the update was available.

     

    Its only lion in the house that has this problem.

     

    we have the following.

     

    three laptops (one macbook,one dell and one compaq notebook)

    two iphones (connected fine with no problems)

    one gaming pc (ethernet cabled so no problem there)

    an android phone (connected fine)

    one imac with lion (unstable and unusable wifi but fine on cable)

     

    I think the problem is clear.

     

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  • by William Kucharski,

    William Kucharski William Kucharski Jul 29, 2011 6:01 AM in response to nbooradley23
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    Jul 29, 2011 6:01 AM in response to nbooradley23

    As I mentioned, it may seem clear, but it's not.

     

    Several others have had the same "all my other devices and Snow Leopard worked fine" problems, only for them to be fixed by firmware update.

     

    I'm not saying it's not Lion, just we can't say with the data at hand.

  • by nbooradley23,

    nbooradley23 nbooradley23 Jul 29, 2011 6:03 AM in response to simon57
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    Jul 29, 2011 6:03 AM in response to simon57

    exactly simon57 you are in exactly the same boat as me.

    everything works apart from LION so go figure

  • by walter_ud_it,

    walter_ud_it walter_ud_it Jul 29, 2011 6:22 AM in response to simon57
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    Jul 29, 2011 6:22 AM in response to simon57

    In the "support" section of my Apple Store they told me that a release .0.0 is "like" a beta release, for many people have many other problems.

    But it is imminent a first update by Apple ( this is what I heard )

    Ciao

  • by MNSteve,

    MNSteve MNSteve Jul 29, 2011 6:30 AM in response to William Kucharski
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    Jul 29, 2011 6:30 AM in response to William Kucharski

    >  As I mentioned, it may seem clear, but it's not.

     

    We're up to 17 pages of "discussion" in this thread.

     

    Any time there's a software upgrade, some folks are going to have problems.  When that software upgrade affects millions of people, even if only a tiny percentage of them have problems, it could be enough to generate 17 pages of comments on a support forum.

     

    In this case, it is clear that there is an issue with the upgrade.  There are just too many people who are saying EXACTLY the same thing -- "I have many devices that are using the same network and working fine; my [fill in the blank] was working fine before I upgraded; now it does not."

     

    Yes, it's not unusual for back-level firmware to cause a problem with a version upgrade of the OS that begins exercising function that is fixed or added in the firmware update that's missing.  But several folks here, including myself, have checked the version of their firmware and it's up to date.

     

    It's not unusual for incopatibilities between vendors to show up with a software upgrade.  But several folks here, including myself, are using Apple network gear.  If there's an incompatibility it should have been discovered by pre-release testing.

     

    So while it's appropriate to give advice to people who are having this issue to check their firmware level or RAM or whatever, I really think that the volume of reports of exactly the same issue in this thread indicates that there is a software issue related to the upgrade.  The fact that I saw exactly this issue with the previous upgrade reinforces my personal opinion.  This appears to be a pretty common problem even though it is probably affecting only a tiny percentage of upgrading users.

  • by rodrigoab,

    rodrigoab rodrigoab Jul 29, 2011 7:18 AM in response to lrogersinlv
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    Jul 29, 2011 7:18 AM in response to lrogersinlv

    MNSteve,

     

    17 pages only in this post! We do not forget about that!

    I found other posts in this community with more than 10 pages.

    Searching on Google we can find many other foruns with many posts about this issue.

    My lucky is I don´t use the Mac for work.

     

    rodrigoab.

     

    PS.: Ping is running ......

     

    Message was edited by: rodrigoab

  • by cadman1,

    cadman1 cadman1 Jul 29, 2011 7:24 AM in response to Scottig
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    Jul 29, 2011 7:24 AM in response to Scottig

    Holy crap! I tried this and it fixed my problem, at least for the last 15 minutes! So far, so good. WiFi also seems blazingly fast.

     

    Can it be as simple as updating Java?

     

    What a wierd fix. Will try and update this as time goes by.

     

    THANK YOU SO MUCH.

  • by nbooradley23,

    nbooradley23 nbooradley23 Jul 29, 2011 7:57 AM in response to MNSteve
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    Jul 29, 2011 7:57 AM in response to MNSteve

    Could not agree more.

    The sheer volume of complaints and and press on the issue point to a software bug in the wifi.

     

    Also lets look @ the situation we have.

     

    A brand new Imac 27 inch I7 with 4gb of ram and 2Tb storage. and all the bells and whistles to go with it.

     

    So its not like we have an old machine upgrading to lion.

     

    This machine is the latest model and a matter of two days old..

     

    So I'm 100 percent to say that something is wrong with the lion o.s in the wifi department and no matter how much apple want to point at firmware, routers or third party this and that.

     

    You dont have to be an apple genius to work that out...

     

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UY2lYWq4EGs&feature=related

     

    Here you can see them working the fix

     

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvX06-rCj2A&feature=related

  • by Scottig,

    Scottig Scottig Jul 29, 2011 9:16 AM in response to cadman1
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    Jul 29, 2011 9:16 AM in response to cadman1

    No problem - I am glad the fix I posted worked for you too!

     

    I wish more people spent time actually trying the fix I posted instead of just ranting about Lion - Let's face it, they have had what, almost a million and a half installations of Lion, with a relatively small handful of issues... Considering how many of us have unique hardware and software installations, I would say that is not bad for ANY operating system. Did it suck that I was affected? - Sure, but by no means am I going to switch to a PC over it, and I installed Lion KNOWING that it was a brand new product, and may have some minor issues to be resolved.

     

    OK, should it work perfectly right from the installation? Sure, but I am willing to bet that they were not able to test Lion with EVERY known combination of hardware and software installations.

     

    It could be that we all have some similar program on our computers, or perhaps some hardware causing the issue, or perhaps something we did in a past software installation, or removal, or it could be that we all have similar installed hardware in the affected computers... Whatever the case, even with 15k views of this thread, and other similar posts on the new, that represents a very small fraction of installations, so Lion without question is an overwhelming success overall.

     

    That said, I encourage everyone to try the fix I have posted in an earlier post - It definitively worked for me, and I am quite certain it will work for quite a few of you as well. It may not work for everyone, but I can assure you that I am back up and running without issue.

     

    Scott

  • by nbooradley23,

    nbooradley23 nbooradley23 Jul 29, 2011 9:26 AM in response to Scottig
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    Jul 29, 2011 9:26 AM in response to Scottig

    Rant? fix? why should I fix a brand new mac that over 2 grand has been spent on.

     

    For your information I followed exactly what apple has suggested and not one, not one apple genius has come up with a solution to this very expensive computers problem.

     

    I did fix it by using a cable and will continue to use a cable until apple FIX the problem they have created with LION.

     

    Quite frankly if you purchased a 2 grand mac two days ago and the wifi didnt work correctly would you spend countless hours trying to make it work with no success and still feel a satisified customer?

     

    Your fix did not work just like all the others suggested.

     

    Its not the fix that is the issue its the fact they still will not acknowledge a software problem and this whiter than white we dont make mistakes head up rear end attitude.

  • by CharMar,

    CharMar CharMar Jul 29, 2011 9:35 AM in response to lrogersinlv
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    Jul 29, 2011 9:35 AM in response to lrogersinlv

    There are problems and surely a bug.

     

    In addition to the problem with iWeb that I've already posted about (can't publish/ the system doesn't recognize the connection), I periodically get two error message boxes with the text:

         "There was a problem connecting to the server. URLs with the type "file": are not supported. Yes, two boxes, one after the other.

  • by Chris-King,

    Chris-King Chris-King Jul 29, 2011 10:04 AM in response to William Kucharski
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    Jul 29, 2011 10:04 AM in response to William Kucharski

    Hi William

     

    Couple of quick questions same thread and problem related but maybe this will help us out.

    1) Is there / are there any updates for Lion in the pipeline/due for release in the next few days, and if so what fixes do they have included/covered?

    2) When trying to update Java as per suggested by this threat, I used Spotlight as described, and when I selected Java Preferences application, with 4 buttons/tabs, however my Java was listed as Java SE 6 (32 and 64 bit) on Version 1.6.0.26-b03-383. There is no option to 'update it' although I did (which was a waste) go to Apples site and download and install it again, which made no difference obviously

     

    In honesty why would we have to do all these different fix attempts/tries/procedures, surely if it worked fine under Snow Leopard, Leopard, Tiger etc etc) the upgrade should just do it all, and we shouldn't have to go 'poking' about under the bonnet? Surely Apple must be aware of this huge message thread and be working on a fix or document. Is it not possible for someone to give us an update to say this is a known problem and we are working on it, or maybe even a small hot-fix or patch to clear up rogue or maybe problematic files from an upgrade or maybe even a montitoring or trace program we can run that runs diagnostics and uploads it back to them?

  • by simon57,

    simon57 simon57 Jul 29, 2011 10:08 AM in response to Scottig
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    Jul 29, 2011 10:08 AM in response to Scottig

    I agree that it is easy to sound like Mr Angry when these things happen and perhaps to lose a sense of proportion (no one died!). 

     

    But surely the real point here is that there are just so many posts about this issue.  Are we really just seeing the vocal few who have problems they cannot resolve?  Or is it more likely that the vast majority cannot be bothered spending time "ranting" and just give up at the first hurdle?  Hard to say, surely.

     

    And don't you find the release as a download only in advance of a later "proper" release suggests something?  Apple would not be the first software house that released a half finished product to allow the great unwashed to discover its faults for them.  Am I being paranoid (I know THEY are watching)?

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