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  • JohnSwed Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    How is that possible? When I start MC, the dock only shows if an app is running by that little white dot. But how do you manage to integrate the minmized widows in the viewfield?

  • TheBuckler Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Perhaps Matt, but that doesn't work if you have your dock set to hide itself and what about the half-baked "minimize windows into application icon" option, also in the Dock System Preferences. I have both of those options checked and now I can't see my minimized windows at all. Many of these options were introduced with successive operating systems and it doesn't feel very well thought through.

  • yakindue Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    this is annoying Minized windows is lost.

    i don,t have track pad i use iMac.

  • Isaac Anderson Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Yes, but not if you checked  "minimize windows in application icon" in the Dock preferences.

  • TheBuckler Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Obviously, Isaac. So what's the point of "minimize windows in application icon?" In Snow Leopard it kept the dock clear of clutter, which was fine when you could use Expose to see your minimized windows. In Lion, it causes your minimized windows to be hidden. Which leads me to think that Apple hasn't thought through how these legacy features work together in Lion. I've asked several AppleCare reps whether there is a new way that I should be using these features, now that Mission Control doesn't show minimized windows. None of them have an answer and suggest that we give our feedback about showing minimized windows in Mission Control, here: http://www.apple.com/feedback/macosx.html

  • Matt Oceans Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I agree, something doesnt exactly add up. it doesnt feel like its apple. expose in snow leopard (and most apple producs/services) feel like they are smarter then i myself could have come up with, in other words: I rarely have complains.  You can find all kinds of reasons why the new  mission control layout, while more advanced, chronologically speaking... seems like a step back in terms of usefullness and so called 'smartness'.  and i dont feel like copy and pasting this entire thread into another forum. I dont work for apple.

     

    They need to issue a patch. and add the minimized windows view to lion. i cant see why this should not be done.

  • iPotential Level 1 Level 1 (15 points)

    Matt Oceans wrote:

     

    I agree, something doesnt exactly add up. it doesnt feel like its apple. expose in snow leopard (and most apple producs/services) feel like they are smarter then i myself could have come up with, in other words: I rarely have complains.  You can find all kinds of reasons why the new  mission control layout, while more advanced, chronologically speaking... seems like a step back in terms of usefullness and so called 'smartness'.  and i dont feel like copy and pasting this entire thread into another forum. I dont work for apple.

     

    They need to issue a patch. and add the minimized windows view to lion. i cant see why this should not be done.

     

    Part of the problem is that Spaces/Expose/AppExpose/MissionControl have a range of benefits and only the basic ones (incl. aesthetics) are being considered in most positive reviews.  Either people haven't realized what they could do, or (if we don't see a patch) they never will.

     

    Good news, there is a better way and its call "Expose"...

     

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktTNcj0fAM4

     

    I went back to Snow Leopard - and couldn't be happier.

  • bluepaua Level 2 Level 2 (185 points)
    I've asked several AppleCare reps whether there is a new way that I should be using these features, now that Mission Control doesn't show minimized windows. None of them have an answer

    Rule number 1 of software design is to ensure that every feature is supported by valid use cases, and that the features provided enable the users to accomplish their tasks. Seems like someone may have forgotten to do the use cases for Lion.

  • Matt Oceans Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Is it possble that in designing lion, they expected us to stop minimizing our windows?

     

    IOW: maybe the majority of people do not minimize windows and therefore mission control/app expose would work fine in theory for switching windows. And the theoretical patch / future software that we are hoping adds minimized windows support to mission control, could actually be getting rid of the ability to minimize windows in the mac os?

     

     

     

     

     

    Does my theory make anysence? just occured to me, random thought.

  • bluepaua Level 2 Level 2 (185 points)

    Unlike Windows, Apple does not have an open (as in one for non-developers and for free) Beta program for Mac OS X. if they don't ask, how do they know people do not minimise wndows? When I scan the forum, it seems that Apple has removed a whole load of features in Lion that people do actually use and now miss.

  • adam52 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I have upgraded my 2009 iMac to Lion. When I used to use my "hot corners" to initiate Expose (aka Mission Control) it would show in the blue-outlined boxes all of my open programs/windows, even those that were minimized.

     

     

    Now however, since upgrading to Lion, if I minimize my Safari window (with Minimize to Icon selected in my Dock preferences) when I activate Mission Control, it does not show my Safari window AT ALL.  Is there a setting to fix this? Is there a workaround? I L-O-V-E being able to see all my active windows, including those that I have minimized, and then having the option to select said window when I'm ready to use it again directly from Mission Control.

     

     

    Please BRING BACK THIS FEATURE!!!!!

  • Peter Stubbs Level 1 Level 1 (70 points)

    Actually there is a way of showing minimized Windows expose style but only for the active app not for all open apps as before.

     

    Check out this app I came across a few days ago which allows you to assign many more gestures and actions that Apple have for both mouse and trackpad. I have got a 3 finger click to expose all windows of the active app and shows them regardless of which desktop they are in and whether or not they are minimized, I have also set a 2 finger scroll on my mouse to expose the desktop which Apple had kindly removed.

     

    http://magicprefs.com/

  • bpcookson Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I miss this as well.  It's really hard to find my minimized windows, and that's a problem.

     

    I've been looking around I cannot currently find an efficient or elegant work-around for this missing feature.  The best I have so far is to go to Mission Control (MC), select the program, then use the broken expose to get those minimized windows.  If all windows are minimized then I won't see them at all in MC and my ONLY cue to know they exist is a small blue dot on my dock.  Sure, I can see the blue dot, but it breaks my workflow to peruse the dock and compare against MC to find the odd app out.  Ugh...

  • Matt Oceans Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    clearly everyone agrees that making mission control a "place where you can see everytyhing' but infact you cant see everything.. is just weard

  • iPotential Level 1 Level 1 (15 points)

    Matt Oceans wrote:

     

    clearly everyone agrees that making mission control a "place where you can see everytyhing' but infact you cant see everything.. is just weard

     

    Absolutely.