Peter Wendell

Q: Library Will Not Connect to Images on Remote Drive Since Lion

I keep my Aperture library on my local drive but the actual image files on a USB drive connected to an Airport base station. This has been working fine for months. Since I upgraded to Lion, Aperture insists that the volume containg the images is offline even though it is mounted and I can browse it in finder. I tried using the 'Located referenced files' options and re-connecting to one my files, but when I did so Aperture says the file is an 'Unsupported image type'.

 

I would really appreciate any suggestions on how to proceed.

Posted on Jul 20, 2011 8:03 PM

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  • by stephubik,

    stephubik stephubik Jul 26, 2011 3:04 AM in response to Peter Wendell
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    Jul 26, 2011 3:04 AM in response to Peter Wendell

    I have exactly the same problem after upgrading to Lion.

     

    Storing referenced files on NAS drives has always worked without any problems. Until Lion.

     

    I've written a msg to Aperture support. But I fear, if this issue is not resolved within the next few weeks, it's Hello Lightroom for me, too. I simply cannot afford changing my whole workflow and setup just because Lion messed things up.

     

    Kind regards

    Stephan

  • by Daghood,

    Daghood Daghood Jul 26, 2011 1:19 PM in response to Peter Wendell
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    Jul 26, 2011 1:19 PM in response to Peter Wendell

    @Stephan : same for me, my workflow is too complicated to change.

     

    Is Lightroom able to import an Aperture database?

  • by jakk,

    jakk jakk Jul 26, 2011 1:28 PM in response to alanfromdupont
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    Jul 26, 2011 1:28 PM in response to alanfromdupont

    I've read and understand the cautions about networked drives. But I need a brief education on this topic, if someone could be kind enough to help. My external drive is plugged into my Mac via Firewire 800 and not shared. Am I correct in saying this is not a network drive? I ask because since upgrading to Lion, I'm getting the "you don't have permission to access trash on this volume" message when I try to delete referenced files through Aperture. I can't even delete managed files if my library is on the external drive. They disappear from trash but stay in the Aperture library when I look at package contents.

     

    If I'm not on a networked drive, why would this affect me at all? What am I missing? Just about ready to wipe my drive and go back to Snow Leopard.

  • by Ernie Stamper,

    Ernie Stamper Ernie Stamper Jul 26, 2011 1:58 PM in response to jakk
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    Jul 26, 2011 1:58 PM in response to jakk

    How is it formatted?  If Mac OSX Extended, then should not have these problems.  If another format, then can be problematic.

     

    Ernie

  • by jakk,

    jakk jakk Jul 26, 2011 2:01 PM in response to Ernie Stamper
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    Jul 26, 2011 2:01 PM in response to Ernie Stamper

    How is it formatted?  If Mac OSX Extended, then should not have these problems.  If another format, then can be problematic.

     

    Thanks, Ernie. All of my externals are formatted as Mac OSX Extended. That was the first thing I double-checked. I'm baffled by this issue. I've been searching and troubleshooting various solutions for a couple of days now.

  • by mkalways1,

    mkalways1 mkalways1 Jul 26, 2011 6:43 PM in response to jakk
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    Jul 26, 2011 6:43 PM in response to jakk

    What I have found is that my FireWire hd managed library will load on an old MacBook w aperture but very dicey w lion on a fairly new iMac w lion.  Crashes often.  It seems the big problem has something to do w video. Even when it doesn't crash, the framed image preview is messed up on random videos and none of 600 play. If I export the video to desktop it will and I believe that if I re-import them they will be okay.  Don't know if this has anything to do w yours as I am just fumbling around being annoyed.  ***** that I know it still works fine on my MacBook running sl so it is a lion issue.  Don't have a reason why.

  • by Ernie Stamper,

    Ernie Stamper Ernie Stamper Jul 26, 2011 7:06 PM in response to Peter Wendell
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    Jul 26, 2011 7:06 PM in response to Peter Wendell

    Just another advisory I found on the subject that Apple posted in May of 2010:

     

    http://support.apple.com/kb/TS3252

     

    This comes from a Troubleshooting link in the article at:

     

    http://www.apple.com/support/aperture/

     

    Ernie

  • by jakk,

    jakk jakk Jul 26, 2011 7:37 PM in response to mkalways1
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    Jul 26, 2011 7:37 PM in response to mkalways1

    I've been able to confirm that my issue is Lion related. I decided to wipe my drive clean (full erase) and go back to Snow Leopard. I reinstalled a fresh copy of Aperture and did tests with multiple libraries on my external drives. Everything worked perfectly. There were no glitches, no problems with permissions, and I was able to access the System Trash deleting from libraries on my external drive.

     

    I  installed Lion on top of my clean system and repeated those processes. I got the error message again and was unable to access the System Trash.

     

    Guess I'm going back to Snow Leopard until I hear of a fix for this.

  • by stephubik,

    stephubik stephubik Jul 27, 2011 1:09 AM in response to Daghood
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    Jul 27, 2011 1:09 AM in response to Daghood

    Lightroom has no problems with referenced files on a network storage. And why should it? It's the most natural thing in the world to keep your images on a server.

     

    You can't import your Aperture library, though; so you'll have to start from scratch.

     

    It's a pity, really. I was starting to really like Aperture. But this issue has rendered it completely useless for my purposes.

     

    Kind regards

    Stephan

  • by fshnmich,

    fshnmich fshnmich Jul 27, 2011 8:10 AM in response to stephubik
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    Jul 27, 2011 8:10 AM in response to stephubik

    I am experiencing the same issues that everyone else is reporting.  As a temp workaround, I find that if I import 1 (one) file in to the library, the issue gets resolved.  However, this happiness is short lived.  Once Aperture is closed and reopened, the external drive show as off line.

     

    I would really hate to have to move the masters back to my local HD since it took quite a long time to move them to my NAS.

     

    I guess that we just have to wait until Apple comes out with a patch.

     

    Thank you all for the information.

  • by stephubik,

    stephubik stephubik Jul 28, 2011 2:32 AM in response to fshnmich
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    Jul 28, 2011 2:32 AM in response to fshnmich

    And that, exactly, is the biggest problem with Apple and Aperture:

     

    If this were the Lightroom forum over at Adobe's, we'd already have an authoritative answer from one of the software developers and/or architects. In person.

     

    With Apple, it's just: No answer, uncertainty and some fruitless group therapy & half knowledge in the support forum.

     

    And I *really* wanted to like Aperture, because it does a **** of a lot of things better than Lightroom. I just wonder when Apple will finally realize that most pro's can't afford to put up with that kind of treatment.

  • by Apple-crumble,

    Apple-crumble Apple-crumble Jul 30, 2011 5:33 AM in response to stephubik
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    Jul 30, 2011 5:33 AM in response to stephubik

    Hello,

     

    I think this problem may not be only with remote drives, My internal drive has also stuffed up. Half of my images are now offline? The only thing I have running that may have effected things is time machine?

    When I plug my time machine in and try to locate masters it tells me drive not connected. I have also now lost all my streams with Flickr etc includeing comments/posts. I have a few shoots on at the moment and have trusted Aperture for my complete library of photos. It is now a huge mess. I am showing two aperture librarys now when I connect my Time machine one of which will not open? Im realy confused with what to do. Can I reinstall my aperture library from a Time machine back up before all this happened? If so whats the best way?

    Thanks in advance.. I'm ready to shoot back to snow leopard.

  • by fshnmich,

    fshnmich fshnmich Jul 30, 2011 6:08 AM in response to Apple-crumble
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    Jul 30, 2011 6:08 AM in response to Apple-crumble

    I am sure that your libraries are fine.  The issue seems to be with Lion.  In reading responses in the forum, people have reinstalled Snow Leopard to resolve the issue.  I have used my secondary machine (not running Lion) and everything is fine and accessable (even though it is not on Lion).

    Hopefully, somebody at apple is reading this and is working on a fix.  I believe that Stephubik said it best in his response above.

    For now, I am going to wait.  I have two weeks of photos from our trip to Egypt last week that I need to import.  In a few more days, I will be going back to Snow Leopard.

  • by Ernie Stamper,

    Ernie Stamper Ernie Stamper Jul 30, 2011 9:25 AM in response to fshnmich
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    Jul 30, 2011 9:25 AM in response to fshnmich

    This may be the case, but it seems to me there is a very great potential for things to get messed up in the upgrading of a full boot volume, or migration of apps and data.  In my testing thus far, wherein I have only upgraded a Snow Leopard only original install, and then instlling Aperture afresh to that system, there has been no issue with Libraries on other internal drives, not with on connected via USB.

     

    I am a long way from going whole hog with Lion, but my worry is more focused on migrating data, and installing nearly 100 other apps.

     

    Ernie

  • by iTMulti,

    iTMulti iTMulti Jul 30, 2011 4:35 PM in response to stephubik
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    Jul 30, 2011 4:35 PM in response to stephubik

    Same here

     

    I've exactly the same trouble with my NAS (ETRAYZ)

     

    I use this solution waiting the patch :

     

    I choose a photo, I ask to localize it, I match it with the photo on the NAS, a I click reconnect ALL

     

    Then all my library is connected to my photos on the NAS

     

    To do every time I start aperture !! grr

     

    PS: in addition, iMovie seems to have the same trouble with the events....

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