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Apple killed OSX with Lion

Lion is a prime example of what happens when a company like apple begins to design software ala Microsoft, that is, with the lowest denominator (the average user) in mind in an effort to gain more market share. Here is my beef with Lion after upgrading Today:


New Mouse Gestures: while 'additional' gestures are always welcomed, apple completely missed the point here and has entirely overcomplicated a concept that was supposed to make interacting with the OS and applications simpler, not harder.

  • The gesture to show/hide your desktop is a prime example. It used to be a simple four finger up and down swipe on the trackpad. Now it takes your thumb, three fingers, and a temperamental gesture that takes a while to get right. I still find it cumbersome to do after using my Mac all day. It only works half the time. Would it have killed you to leave this gesture alone or, at the very least, allow users to retain the previous (call it legacy) gesture?

  • Browser (back/forth) navigation gestures: this is the one I am most ticked off about and I can't imagine I am the only one. My very favority gesture to navigate back and forth when web browsing (with either the trackpad - three finger left/right or my magic mouse - two finger left/right) is now replaced with mission control 'spaces' switching. I tried turning this off but I still can't manage to regain the functionality I once had with my web browsers. Thanks to this upgrade, I can no longer browser the web with the ease and freedom I once had on Snow Leopard. Again, such a great feature from a usability point of view and one of the things that drove me to purchase a magic mouse to begin with is now gone for good!
  • 2. Mission Control/Spaces: I can't stand the convergence of expose and spaces in mission control. I used to be able to open spaces via hot-corner, and drag windows/apps between the various spaces from within the spaces 'view' itself. Now I am forced to use mission control where all I get is a tiny preview of what's in each space and I must switch to the desired space before I am able to drag a window or app from it into a different space. Another counter-intuitive and unncessary feature downgrade.




    I think apple completely missed the mark here. The new OS will be attractive to new users for sure but at what cost to your existing user base? Too many UI changes can be risky and apple is prone to upset a lot of long time users with this. It is ok to fine tune features but retaining core functionality should be at the forefront. With so many traumatic changes, you need to at least allow users to retain functionality to which they may have grown acustomed. Gestures is one of those things that sets Macs appart from everything else and a key aspect to how users interact with the OS environment. People get used to these things, they become second nature almost. To turn off the switch on these features on the blink of an upgrade makes me wonder about where apple is heading with OSX.


    Lion to me is nothing more than a dumbed-down Snow Leopard.

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    Posted on Jul 20, 2011 9:20 PM

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    Jul 21, 2011 8:18 AM in response to fsck!

    Agreed with the OP


    It was a major step up from Leopard that the four finger swipe brought up the heads-up screen and Desktop. Now the only way to see all apps open is command-Tab. This is a step backwards.


    Agreed the thumb-three finger, not only awkward does not work 50% of the time, making it much harder to get to the Desktop. This is something you do all the time ! Back to fn-F11 or conveniently control-click mission control icon on the Dock.This is a step backwards.


    MissionControl ? Not so useful if you can not access the open and hidden files, what where they thinking???


    Three finger, four finger, Dock icon why all those options for MissionControl at the expense of the most useful in a day today day work machine.


    Hopefully they can modify the TrackPad preferences in a future update to bring these most functional gestures back!


    LaunchPad in a word, useless.




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    Jul 21, 2011 8:24 AM in response to softwater

    The reason is that OS X Lion is really just a cosmetic update. Not that I'm joining the ranks of complainers, but frankly, it doesn't actually do anything that I couldn't already do in 10.6.


    Versions? Really, I know it's under the hood, but folks, this is the game changer. Never have to save anything again? Undo right back to the beginning? You couldn't do that in Snow Leopard.

    Jul 21, 2011 9:07 AM in response to Yer_Man

    Versions? Really, I know it's under the hood, but folks, this is the game changer.


    Not really. While I grant you that its a technical improvement, is it really a day-to-day practical one? When was the last time you lost your work on a Mac from not saving? Never happened to me in seven years.


    Most anyone who's been around a computer for more than ten minutes has learned to habitually save without even thinking about it anyway, but truly I haven't lost a piece of work from not saving since 2004 (the year I stopped using PC's that crashed unexpectedly and switched to Apples that are inherently stable; and even when they're weren't, there was always ways to recover...).



    I grant you Versions would be handy on a PC, or even for my Parallels Win 7 emulator... 😝

    Jul 21, 2011 9:38 AM in response to Yer_Man

    Versions? Really, I know it's under the hood, but folks, this is the game changer. Never have to save anything again? Undo right back to the beginning? You couldn't do that in Snow Leopard.


    I'm not that disorganized that I need 25 versions of my spreadsheet or letter - once they're updated or final, I no longer need a previous version. And, combined with Resume, those versions can quickly become a nuisance, especially when they pop back out of the trash just because you just launched Preview. I've experienced it. And, if I want to undo back to the beginning, what's wrong with a "select all/part - delete"? So, I will turn off Resume and ignore Versions hoping it will ignore me as well.

    Jul 22, 2011 5:21 AM in response to Francisco Bido

    It is likely that you have the defective graphics card and should return you laptop to apple to have it fixed their is documentation of the issue but I don't remember where. You might attempt to reset pram this should reduce crashes. Your system is overusing the graphic card do to a pram error. Or at least this is my best guess. I agree about Lion being junk an OS is just that an operating system and should not have any of these feture unless you want them you should be able to choose what junk you want. Expecially the scroll bar the new one ***** a big one unless you have a new mouse or trackpad.

    Jul 22, 2011 5:45 AM in response to Zeran

    I think a lot of it comes down to familiarity and personal preference, rather than Lion being at all bad.


    I wasn't convinced by MC at first, as I was so used to Spaces and Expose. I didn't think Spaces was as good, as you could no longer see them all and from a single view move windows between any two Spaces. Now you have to first select the Space, and move any wondows to one of the small desktops along the top.


    And with Expose, I quite liked being able to see the full windows, even if they were smaller, compared to MC which stacks windows of the same app.


    But having said that, given that its so quick and easy to swipe through desktops, and it being handy to see everything in the same place, I'm getting used to it quite quickly.


    And I've noticed you can set apps to specific Spaces, or to all Spaces - I have a feeling you could always do that, but I must have missed it.


    Launchpad I like more than I thought I would. Sure, the Dock is the obvious place for commonly used apps, but I am liking Launchpad as the best way I've seen to quickly get to lesser used Apps.

    Jul 27, 2011 3:46 PM in response to macpeople1

    I lost everything after only a few days with Lion, i had to do a clean install when Safari locked up and i did a simple restart. It corrupted my start up disc=locked disc, only solution clean install. I had my TIme Machine back up drive hooked up and formatted for my PS3 while i am going to put in a larger HDD this week when i get it from Amazon. So it was the worst possible time to have a system crash. I lost important family videos of my mother recovering from Lupus etc... all gone, Logic projects, photos, mail, text files.


    I love the concepts in Lion, but i agree it's by far the buggiest OS X version thus far. The dock won't respond when i hiding, which i agree requires restart. Also if you have it set to the sides, you still have to hover the pointer at the bottom and can't access the sides when hiding is on of course since it minimizes as you try to get the pointer over there lol. The only sure way to make it work is have it set with hiding off, or set Launch Pad in a hot corner and access it then the dock pops up, sometimes it also lags when it should be minimizing after Launch Pad is closed etc.


    Another complaint i have is the swiping gesture while using Safari, it's too sensitive and jumpy. I've lost countless posts as i just barely nugde the magice mouse slightly and it moves the web page forward/back and when you return to the page to post comments the text it completely gone. It's beyond annoying. I have to carefully grab the mouse as not to inadvertantly lose my post as i go to post it.

    Jul 27, 2011 4:40 PM in response to klmfvej

    areutryingtolosecustomers? wrote:


    I lost everything after only a few days with Lion, i had to do a clean install when Safari locked up and i did a simple restart. It corrupted my start up disc=locked disc, only solution clean install. I had my TIme Machine back up drive hooked up and formatted for my PS3 while i am going to put in a larger HDD this week when i get it from Amazon. So it was the worst possible time to have a system crash. I lost important family videos of my mother recovering from Lupus etc... all gone, Logic projects, photos, mail, text files.

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    Sorry to hear about your experience. It ***** to lose data. A little too late now but, you must always remember to back-up your data before performing an OS upgrade. No matter how simple or painless apple (or any vendor) claims an upgrade process to be, in the end it IS software and the condition your system is in and/or if you have a configuration that is unique or custom (eg multiple partitions, bootcamp, etc) play a big part on how things go. The automation processes aimed at making these upgrades "painless" can't account for every possible configuration out there. So, all you can do is learn from this. Been there...


    By the way, if you are going to go through all this trouble, might as well do yourself a favor and perform a clean Lion install. There are many walkthroughs out there to help you with this but here is one that might work for you:


    http://www.eggfreckles.net/tech/burning-a-lion-boot-disc/


    It is tempting to go back to Snow Leopard but bear in mind that you are only postponing the inevitable. At some point, Apple will stop supporting SL and you will be on the same boat, granted, perhaps with a more stable 'Lion' by the time that happens. I am sticking with it and just dealing with it - I think I got it as stable as it is going to get until patches/updates are released. Figure that'll give me time to get used to the new 'improvements'.


    Good Luck

    Jul 27, 2011 5:14 PM in response to Barney-15E

    I was mad as **** at first, Waiting so long for this OS. Then, this is gone that's gone ....ect...ect... I was fixing to go back to SL, but decided to give a bit due to the pain of re-install of SL. But now after using it and fixing all the little things that were the main part of my unhappiness, Like the Library folder, changing the linen on start up and mission control, (which i like better than spaces at this point) re-learning mail,........I could go on and on with all the things i hated at first. The upgrades to Automator and Scripteditor are killer. My opinion is if you already have it, give it a chance, If your a hard core mac user than you can probably fix all the small things that annoy, and once their fixed that's it. Ya its a PITA but it is a major upgrade. If you wanted another SL then i guess you didn't get Lion in the first place right? We all wanted something different and better and that's what we got. Might not seem so now but once the updates get out to tie up the loose ends it will be worth it. That being said, i had no problems with the install or setup. If it had bricked up MBP I probably would have a different outlook. But for me it was pretty smooth. It was the difference between Lion and the best OS that ever was, SL, that was almost the deal breaker. But I gave it a chance and im glad I did.


    end rant.....

    Jul 27, 2011 5:52 PM in response to fsck!

    already did the clean install, still have quikiness regarding the Dock lol. I should get my new PS3 HDD then i'll hook up my back up drive for Time Machine, plus i bought 100 pack of dvd-r to finally burn all this stuff and get it off my other backup drive. I'm still wondering about Blu-ray burners to use with Mac etc... would make backing up a lot easier with less discs. I've had this happen 3 times in the past, so i guess i never learn haha. Thanks for the reply and advice.

    Jul 27, 2011 6:15 PM in response to L.T.D

    This is EXACTLY how I feel!


    -I really depend on the application switch gesture. Windows management on a mac is actually fairly difficult and this appliction switch gesture was a really helpful way to quickly switch back and forth between applications and close/hide/minimize any application at a glance.


    -I never could get the spread finger gesture to work for show desktop. Luckily this is actually fixable. If you install BetterTouchTools you can configure show desktop to four fingers and it works exactly like it works in SL. You even still get the function of returning to your windows by swiping in the opposite direction.


    I have application switcher set to a four finger tap with better touch tools which is ok but not as good as how it was set up with SL.


    All Apple had to do was leave it as an option...

    Apple killed OSX with Lion

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