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Turning off Macbook Display when using External Display on Lion

Before Lion you could turn off the internal display on a Macbook by closing the lid, putting the Macbook to sleep and using an external keyboard/mouse to wake it up. After waking up, the internal display would be off and you could open the lid and it would stay off. This allowed better airflow while using an external display, not to mention saved resources like video memory etc. If you wanted to turn the display back on all you had to do was select Detect Displays from the Display menu on the Menu Bar, or put it to sleep and wake it up with the lid open.


On Lion this function no longer works. Lion will automatically execute a Detect Displays when the lid is opened. I don't want to run Dual displays at the moment, my desk is not setup for this and I don't need it. I much rather have more video ram available when I'm playing World of Warcraft.


I know that not having control over what display is active is a more novice user friendly function, but some of us are not novices, Windows has had for years the ability to disable any display from the displays control panel. Most if not all windows laptops come with a dedicated function button expressly to select the active display (press it external display only, press again, internal display only, press again internal and external mirrored, press again internal and external dual display mode). This can be cumbersome and overwhelming to novice users I get it, but Apple should implement some fix for us gaming nerds. I want to keep my lid open to have better airflow and I want my internal display off. How about and advanced button on the Display Preferences.


Anyone know of any existing workarounds?

Macbook Pro 17"-OTHER, Mac OS X (10.7)

Posted on Jul 20, 2011 10:21 PM

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Jul 30, 2011 4:07 AM in response to coocooforcocoapuffs

In case of the magnet I use I think it would be no problem for the HDD because its very weak.

But on the 2010 MBP there is no problem like you can see on the picture because the HDD is placed far away of the magnet switch.

Another fact is, that the macbook-own magnets would damage the HDD also if my little weak magnet would do it.

Btw: there is one of the lid "close-holding" magnets next to the HDD.. 🙂


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Jul 30, 2011 6:20 AM in response to InJecTeD

Hi


I cut a 1/4 x 1/4 flat thin rubber magnet. They are on the back of magnetic business cars and some cheap calendars at OfficeMax. It is soft and weak.


On a early 2011 it is on the left side bottom left corner of the speaker grille on top just above the SD card slot even with the SD opening.


Mmm, if there is a factory magnet there, would you say it is ok when you have a SD card pluged in the slot. I will try a cheap on and see if I can read the data on it.

Jul 30, 2011 7:02 AM in response to Lady Engineer

Lady Engineer wrote:


I cut a 1/4 x 1/4 flat thin rubber magnet...etc


Apple, are you seeing this? People are finding this Lion functionality so problematic that they are experimenting with magnets and risking data corruption. Please get a grip on this problem before your product becomes a laughing stock. How long before you start seeing solutions involving sticking plasters and gaffer tape?

Aug 4, 2011 11:07 PM in response to Michael Manchester

This is such an amazing oversight by Apple. I am near ready to get rid of my Macbook Pro. This is absolutely required functionality for business users doing presentations. Its fairly typical during presentations to connect the laptop to an external projector and then shut down the laptop screen so that you can use the full resolution of the projector (importants for things like software demo etc where maximizing screen space really helps).


With current Macbook setup all I can do for presentations is enable mirroring which means that the max resolution I can display with on a projector with my 13.3 is 1280x800!!


APPLE have you lost it????

Aug 4, 2011 11:18 PM in response to iansari

This is such an amazing oversight by Apple. I am near ready to get rid of my Macbook Pro. This is absolutely required functionality for business users doing presentations. Its fairly typical during presentations to connect the laptop to an external projector and then shut down the laptop screen so that you can use the full resolution of the projector (importants for things like software demo etc where maximizing screen space really helps).


With current Macbook setup all I can do for presentations is enable mirroring which means that the max resolution I can display with on a projector with my 13.3 is 1280x800!!


APPLE have you lost it????

Respectfully speaking, above is total crap. I just did a preso in keynote/lion yesterday and all went perfectly. First, u don't need mirroring and in keynote, you set up the laptop to display the speaker notes/timer/etc. The external projector can project to a resolution supported by the projector. Some projectors don't support high res, some do. If you don't want to see what's on the laptop, you can just dim the display...it won't harm anything. Second, if you need to show something mirrored, don't use the app in fullscreen and everything works just as it did in SL. Well, good luck with your rantings. 🙂

Aug 4, 2011 11:37 PM in response to coocooforcocoapuffs

Lol. About 10 minutes after writing my comment I figured out that you can make the external display primary which allows you to use the full resolution of the external display (without mirroring enabled ofcourse). So I sort of take back what I had said. I dont mind that the Macbook screen stays on when the external display is primary. Yes you can simply dim the screen all the way to shut it down. However ideally there should be an option to turn off the macbook display altogether in such a configuration. Reason being that by simply dimming the screen you are not freeing up the video card RAM completely and your card+processor is still working double time to render on both displays.


That said, I dont care about that much. Presentations are not a power hog anyways and if I really want to do something truly extensive i'll put the laptop in clamshell mode and connect an external keyboard.


So comment taken back (95% of it atleast!) :-)


For anyone wondering what to do (if it was not already clear from the abundant posts on this thread). To use your external display to its full capacity with the macbook pro lid open:


1. Connect the External display

2. Make the External display the primary display. You can do this through Display preferences by dragging the menu bar from one display to another. But an easier way is to use the keyboard shortcut. Cmd+F1 . Works like a charm.

3. Dim the macbook display to shut the screen off if it irritates you.


Switching back and forth primary displays between external screen and macbook is extremely easy with the keyboard shortcut. I would have been rather unpleased if I had to go to display preferences everytime!


Presentation problem solved... 🙂

Aug 8, 2011 2:46 AM in response to iansari

I'm not sure if this was posted alread, but a very safe way to apply the trick is.... using a paperclip to test everything:


- move a paperclip along the edges of your screen to find all the magnets

- test with the paperclip how strong the magnets pull the paperclip

- test with your fridge magnet how strong that one pulls the paperclip: if it's weaker than the screen's magnets, then your very safe!

- estimate where your screen's magnets "touch" the body of the laptop

- try each of these spots with your fridge magnet to see if anything happens.


This way there is practically no risk that you put too strong a magnet too close to a fragile part of your computer. Unless you're super clumsy, of course.


The sweet spot on my macbook air (i7) is directly right to the return key (about 2 cm away from the right usb port).


I'm so happy that now I do not have to buy SwitchResX, just to get back functionality that existed in Snow Leopard. (My other problem is getting Fortran syntax colouring back in XCode 4, which exists in XCode 3, but that is a bit off topic.)

Turning off Macbook Display when using External Display on Lion

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