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Rosetta and Lion - Is there a solution?

I'm considering upgrading to Lion, mostly due to the fact it has drivers for Nvidia's 500 Series, so ATY_Init will be happy with it.

But, one problem... No rosetta, and a lot of the programs I use or test are not universal binary (Primarily Cocoa PPC or Carbon). So that raises the issue.


How would I go about getting Rosetta on to Lion? I'm assuming that it wouldn't be as simple as copying some Frameworks and Kexts... Do any solutions exist for this yet, like hacks or mods, or is it impossible? (Or too soon?)

Posted on Jul 21, 2011 2:30 AM

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Feb 12, 2014 11:16 AM in response to Allan Eckert

Well I'm one of those millions of people just in NYC alone that use Office....and the rest of my people in my office are more...and we need to do this because mainly MS Office has completely bastardized, dumbed down and removed features from both Word and Powerpoint..(I think we've all seen Apple do this also - this dumbing down and removing capabilites as time goes on) Word and Powerpoint can have less print functionalities, are less efficient, takes more strokes do accomplish a thing that we require to do 100 times a day. They have also removed several buttons from toolbars and you are now forced to dig through sub menus or open dialog boxes and diggin into submenus from those just to do what you could with a click from a toolbar button. Really??? Cmon. MS Office 2004 was the best version..it still had macro capabilites...which was one of the main gripes among many business consultants and number crunchers on spreadsheets used in some of the Big 5 Consulting firms back then. Rosetta would allow you to access these versions.


Let's also consider a FIlm and Television industry that relies on software written specifically for their industry. For example.... software designed specifically for scheduling complex film/tv production shoots, scheduling their crew, their catering, their equipment rentals, etc...These programs were specifically designed for a certain industry and are VERY EXPENSIVE for the buyersa and the companies that write them!!! These smaller developers cannot afford to keep up every other year Apple decides to rewrite an Operating System. This is why backward compatibility should ALWAYS be there.


So...anyone who thinks there are not millions of New Yorkers that work with these programs every friggin day....and NOT going to notice they are losing capabilities, functionality and their precious time....


Think again!


Viva La Rosetta

Feb 12, 2014 11:30 AM in response to K I M B A K A T

Personally I don't care. I don't use anything from Microsoft nor anything that is code for the PowerPC processor.


Secondly there is absolutely nothing I can do about your problem.


Thirdly, since IBM bought out Transitive Corp, the producers of Rosetta, it is extremely doubtful that they will ever produce another such produce for Apple.

Feb 12, 2014 2:31 PM in response to Allan Eckert

TO: KIMBAKAT


If you are unable or unwilling to update to Office 2008 or 2011, then you can continue to use Office 2004 with Snow Leopard Server (and Rosetta) installed into Parallels for use in Lion, Mt. Lion and Mavericks:


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More information here:


http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1365439


Installing Snow Leopard Server into Parallels for DUMMIES!:


http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=17285039&postcount=564


PS: You're posting to a stale thread...


PPS: Actually when that comment was originally written in this thread (Oct 2011 - soon after Lion was released), there probably were over a million Rosetta users still operating in Tiger (Intel), Leopard and Snow Leopard!

Feb 12, 2014 4:59 PM in response to Chris J Witt

Still no alternative to Rosetta rather than emulating an entire Snow Leopard machine or using PearPC? I miss Rosetta. I have some things that were never updated, but I'm not willing to run a virtual machine for them.


And Office '04 was the best version of Office (which I use purely for Excel). Office '08 is OK but uses lots more RAM for absolutely no reason and has a slightly worse layout.

Feb 16, 2014 5:40 AM in response to MlchaelLAX

I have tried Parallels with SL but it's configured for PC and peripherals are dodgy if even considered by that mob?

I was lucky to buy a Mac Pro, circa 2008 (never tried a GAZ87MX-D3H -- Haswell compatible mobo?) for a small sum and now use it with my late 2009 iMac as display.

The Pro runs Mavs and with an USB switch and mini-display-port, I can select either the Pro or the iMac (running SL) as display.

Thunderbolt doesn't allow this as does later Macs?

The old Pro benchmarks @ 10,000 in Geekbench and @ 5.9 in Parallels, Win7. Similar to 2013 Macs at more $$$.

Using iCloud much of my standard stuff is transposable and comparable, as is 1Password to keep my passwords therein.

I am up-to-date to peruse, but can still use my beloved Mac Rosetta emulated Eudora rather than going 'PC.'


:-)

Feb 16, 2014 9:18 AM in response to cruttis

cruttis wrote:


...I was lucky to buy a Mac Pro, circa 2008 (never tried a GAZ87MX-D3H -- Haswell compatible mobo?) for a small sum and now use it with my late 2009 iMac as display.

The Pro runs Mavs and with an USB switch and mini-display-port, I can select either the Pro or the iMac (running SL) as display...

Unless I'm missing something, your 2008 Mac Pro (3,1) can run Snow Leopard natively; you don't need to emulate it. Just pop another HD into an empty bay and you're good to go.

Feb 16, 2014 10:02 AM in response to Mac OS 9000

Mac OS 9000 wrote:


...The reply above mine is correct; Snow Leopard is what this machine was originally meant to run.

Even better, the 2010 Mac Pro was released with Snow Leopard but one version later than what you could buy as an installer DVD. The version for sale will work on the 2009 Mac Pro and earlier, which means he's good to go. I have Snow Leopard through Mavericks installed, taking advantage of all those bays, and each has a use.

Feb 16, 2014 4:21 PM in response to FatMac-MacPro

The Pro came with a broken HD and rather than buy a display I was very intrigued by the confusing reports of using the late 2009 27" iMac as a display. I cloned my working Firewire 'test' 10.9.1 to a 1 TB Barracuda using a USB sled and fitted it to the Pro.


The Pro came with a nVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT so I bought a Display-Port to Mini Display-Port cable to use the iMac display.


The Pro had boot problems traced to pin 20 of the purchased cable being connected, not to VESA standards. When I modified the cable to remove pin 20 all was well.


One gets attached to one's Mac, for me especially the iMac, and this was my solution to retain Rosetta although I am slowly transferring to Entourage for email even though it's also no longer supported. It was the best emailer capable of transferring my Eudora stuff.


When I find a suitable (used) comparable display, the iMac will be placed in storage after internal cleaning.

Rosetta and Lion - Is there a solution?

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