Rosetta and Lion - Is there a solution?

woodmeister50 wrote:

All this sounds so familiar. Same old story when

Apple dropped the Classic environment.

I can't see anything helpful in those remarks. The OP asked "Rosetta and Lion - is there a solution?"

For a lengthy discussion about Rosetta, see here.

Rosetta was actually Apple's name for software called QuickTransit, originally developed by Transitive Corporation, which was taken over by IBM.

Apple was paying $$ millions every year to Transitive/IBM for the use of it, so it's understandable that it allowed the license to run out. Apparently that was a strategic decision that could only have been taken by Steve Jobs, no doubt advised by his other directors that it was costing Apple too much. Maybe they tried to renegotiate the deal but were unsuccessful. Only an Apple insider would know what happened.

It would appear now that the only way of getting something to replace Rosetta would be for enough people to petition IBM to come up with a version of it that can run in Lion. But it would have to interact with Lion, so I can't see how that would work.

There are versions of it for Solaris and Linux (but I think they're old).

I for one would be willing to pay for something like that but I don't see how it's possible.

So I think we're ****ed. Apple seems not to care that there are millions (repeat: millions) of users out there who at a time of economic difficulty suddenly find themselves faced with the expense of buying new versions of expensive software, or doing without.

And I've also noticed in these forums that quite a few people installed Lion without realising that it wouldn't run PPC applications, and are now in big trouble. Apple fanboys just say those people are stupid for not knowing it was going to happen. Fanboys don't understand that most people don't avidly follow everything Apple does on a daily basis.

I myself think that those millions of users deserve another option: the option to pay for a bolt-on version of Rosetta. Surely that would keep everyone happy?

Except for the fanboys, that is. 😁

daveyostcom wrote:

Rosetta is an Apple product.

No it isn't.

Personally I would like to know where you get your statistics to back up your statement about millions of users that wish to have Rosetta.

I seriously doubt that there are that many users who need it. I mean we are talking about some really old software that the developers have already given upo on. So the users of Rosetta are dwindling as we speak.

Allan

Tom in London wrote:

I myself think that those millions of users deserve another option: the option to pay for a bolt-on version of Rosetta. Surely that would keep everyone happy?

Can you substantiate that?

In fairness, there are software developers that have pretty much abandoned the Mac and they haven't produced Intel versions of their software. Intuit comes to mind as their software has impacted me. If a user has been relying on that software, s/he is pretty much screwed with Lion. The frustration is that such an individual must decide between the PPC software and the Lion goodies. There is no compromise. In my case, I chose to go with Lion and I gave up on Quicken.

Buy Vuescan by www.hamrick.com - Great software, works with any scanner, learn one interface once only and the pro version includes upgrades forever. It is THE scanning solution.

I have no connection to Hamrick.

MauiTechnoGeek wrote:

The reason I need Rosetta is that the scanners I own are run by software that was never released for OSX Intel.

Csound1 wrote:

Tom in London wrote:

I myself think that those millions of users deserve another option: the option to pay for a bolt-on version of Rosetta. Surely that would keep everyone happy?

Can you substantiate that?

I said "I myself think" etc. I don't need to substantiate what I think.

That's what we're all doing in here. Saying what we think.

You watch too much Court TV.

It's probably also worth pointing out that Silverfast (Lasersoft Imaging) has finally received an Intel update. They are a priced higher than Vuescan but if it is a Nikon Scanner you're using, you may prefer their software.

I myself think that 6 billion users of Lion have no issues, no need for substantiation.

Have a nice day Tom

Csound1 wrote:

Have a nice day Tom

Thanks, I already was. You're the second person who's said that to me today. I wish people would stop saying "have a nice day". Especially when they don't mean it.

And since you have no issues to discuss, what are you doing in here? What's your contribution?

Please don't imagine that I am in any way answerable to you.

I seriously doubt that there are that many users who need it.

I'm one. I wonder how many Quicken users there are? I need Quicken.

If I don't want to have to buy and install multiple applications to (somewhat) replace it, some with a steep learning curve, I need AppleWorks. There is no suitable all-in-one application to replace it.

I want my Ultimate Solitaire which I've been enjoying since the mid-'90s. (This one is not vital, of course, but it's not something I want to replace.)

Seeing the handwriting on the wall, this is why I bought my MacBook Pro in March, before they introduced Lion.

I am keeping my eyes and ears open for any developments of software which would make an easy enough transition for me to accept it.

I'm thinking that I'm going to have to have two computers when I eventually must upgrade -- one for the internet, and one for the real work I do around here which requires Quicken and, to a lesser extent, AppleWorks.

But all the new consumers who have taken to Apple would more than likely have never used a PPC program, unless a friend gave them a pirated and outdated copy of Office or Photoshop, etc. so I don't see how 'Millions' would be having issues. I have been using Apple for about 20 years and yet when updating to Lion I had 3 PPC programs running due to keeping up with newer software trends. So dropping Rosetta has very little impact on the majority of Apple users................me thinks.

Neil

Ronda Wilson wrote:

I seriously doubt that there are that many users who need it.

I'm one. I wonder how many Quicken users there are? I need Quicken.

If I don't want to have to buy and install multiple applications to (somewhat) replace it, some with a steep learning curve, I need AppleWorks. There is no suitable all-in-one application to replace it.

I want my Ultimate Solitaire which I've been enjoying since the mid-'90s. (This one is not vital, of course, but it's not something I want to replace.)

Seeing the handwriting on the wall, this is why I bought my MacBook Pro in March, before they introduced Lion.

I am keeping my eyes and ears open for any developments of software which would make an easy enough transition for me to accept it.

I'm thinking that I'm going to have to have two computers when I eventually must upgrade -- one for the internet, and one for the real work I do around here which requires Quicken and, to a lesser extent, AppleWorks.

Unfortunately, Intuit made it painfully obvious several years back that they were abandoning the Mac market. I'm sure that you realize that that's the reason why they have not updated Quicken for Mac in the past several years and have not introduced an Intel version of Quicken and have stated that they will not do so. Whether you wean yourself away from Quicken now or later, it's inevitible that you WILL DO IT.

Appleworks was a really great piece of software when it was first introduced (about a year before the introduction of the Mac). Like you, I used it a lot but its downfall was the fact that AW files weren't compatible with anything in the business world. I haven't used it for nearly ten years and have kept it only to read old files. That obviously is no longer necessary because Pages will read AW files.

Finally, I'm sorry but Solitaire is Solitaire and there isn't much difference which version you use. In fact, you don't even need a computer - all it takes is a deck of cards!