Q: Lion - Memory Usage Problems
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Jul 29, 2011 8:33 AMby harmonica01,I'm pretty sure many of us have. I'm dealing with some seniors about the clamshell errors popping up only in lion with laptop to external monitor use as this is affecting hundreds at my department alone. As per this issue somebody else needs to use an official letter head to get in contact with senior technicians. For now, as I posted a few pages back, uncheck the box in system pref pane to drastically improve service and basically make safari function as it did in 4. Will also affect mail and pages and the ram issue.
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Jul 29, 2011 9:20 AMby mightymilk,harmonica01 wrote:
I'm pretty sure many of us have. I'm dealing with some seniors about the clamshell errors popping up only in lion with laptop to external monitor use as this is affecting hundreds at my department alone. As per this issue somebody else needs to use an official letter head to get in contact with senior technicians. For now, as I posted a few pages back, uncheck the box in system pref pane to drastically improve service and basically make safari function as it did in 4. Will also affect mail and pages and the ram issue.
Harmonica01,
I tried this but didn't notice any difference in performance or memory consumption. I'll try it again.
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Jul 29, 2011 9:24 AMby John Kitchen,John Kitchen wrote:
Does anybody care sufficiently enough to contact Apple Technical Support, or is it just not that important?
Let me adjust my earlier post.
The OP is looking for a "sensible method of trouble shooting".
So does anybody care sufficiently enough to contact Apple Techical Support and report on the progress, or is this just not that urgent and important?
PS this thread has been going for over a week now, which is why I question the urgency
Message was edited by: John Kitchen - added PS
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Jul 29, 2011 9:36 AMby mightymilk,I'm unable to contact Apple Care because I'm beyond the 90-Day phone support window. I wrote to Apple Feedback and am trying my luck on other users forums. This topic appears on other forums as well, so with all the attention it's my hope that someone has contacted them by phone.
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Jul 29, 2011 9:43 AMby Joe5150,Well MightyMilk I've been following this thread intently, because I've also noticed some increased memory usage while using Safari, performance however has not been affected. However R c R has answered many of my questions and has put some of my worries to rest, many of the other contributors have also been helpful (John Kitchen). Thank you. You however mightymilk are an arrogant condescending child, whom has been on the attack the whole thread.
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Jul 29, 2011 10:24 AMby mightymilk,Joe5150 wrote:
Well MightyMilk I've been following this thread intently, because I've also noticed some increased memory usage while using Safari, performance however has not been affected. However R c R has answered many of my questions and has put some of my worries to rest, many of the other contributors have also been helpful (John Kitchen). Thank you. You however mightymilk are an arrogant condescending child, whom has been on the attack the whole thread.
Whatever you say. I'm done getting involved in this. Funny how the problem is still completely unresolved. Makes what you just said totally irrelevant.
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Jul 29, 2011 10:34 AMby R C-R,John Kitchen wrote:
Let me adjust my earlier post.
If you don't mind, I would like to add an adjustment of a sort of my own:
Resolving issues like this requires more detailed info from users than this discussion has provided, at least so far. Several different things can cause performance issues. For more than one of them, runaway memory use is a symptom, but it is not the underlying cause.
For example, technically speaking memory leaks are a specific kind of programming error that only programmers can identify & correct, but as the link mentions, constantly increasing memory usage is not necessarily evidence of a memory leak.
Anyway, the point is that tech support will need enough info to determine what is causing the problem, & it may not be the same cause for every user. If you contact them, the more info you can provide the better it will be for everyone.
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Jul 29, 2011 10:55 AMby harmonica01,Seems our issues were solved turning off the restoring app windows and doing clean install. I've added to my tech reports from the department here screenshots of before and after with activity monitor. Right now I'm sitting at 17 hours up time after doing the clean install and still 0 page outs.
It is not optimal however to have to run a system with software designed to utilize the new features in a restrained state. But it allows productivity for now. Please continue to spam the tech and bug guys with apple's links.
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Jul 29, 2011 10:58 AMby R C-R,Joe5150 wrote:
You however mightymilk are an ...
Whatever you think he is, it is the technical content of posts that should be the focus in ASC. There is a difference between attacking the technical merits of a post & attacking the person who made them.
That may seem an odd thing for me to say given my disagreements with mightymilk, but please understand that they have nothing to do with any real or perceived personality traits, only with the technical merits of what he has said.
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Jul 29, 2011 11:04 AMby Matt Sephton,Here's more about this: http://www.tuaw.com/2011/07/27/os-x-lion-bug-safari-guzzling-massive-amounts-of- ram/
Mine has settled down somewhat, but I do have some concern about Safari's memory usage.
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Jul 29, 2011 11:07 AMby Jeff Hallgren,Thought I'd post a snapshot from Activity Monitor - Safari is eating up a great deal of memory and I'm starting to notice some sluggishness launching new pages and tabs. Safari never used this much memory so quickly under 10.6.x. Additionally, Safari has only been running for about 5 days and soon it will be using 3+GB
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Jul 29, 2011 11:30 AMby mightymilk,harmonica01 wrote:
Seems our issues were solved turning off the restoring app windows and doing clean install. I've added to my tech reports from the department here screenshots of before and after with activity monitor. Right now I'm sitting at 17 hours up time after doing the clean install and still 0 page outs.
It is not optimal however to have to run a system with software designed to utilize the new features in a restrained state. But it allows productivity for now. Please continue to spam the tech and bug guys with apple's links.
If you re-enable it, does memory usage climb? I've tried disabling Resume but have not gone as far as to do a Clean install.
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Jul 29, 2011 11:39 AMby Matt Sephton,I've just had a clear out of my Safari Extensions (Safari/Preferences/Extensions) and Internet Plug-ins (Library folder), which I suspect can only help ease the memory burden a little.
Safari Extensions:
Right now I have 18 extensions enabled, I rely on them all at least once a day. I trashed a couple of others I can do without. I use ClickToPlugin to get by without a lot of Internet Plug-ins, and I do not run Flash.
Internet Plug-ins:
You can see these at /Library/Internet Plug-ins/ and ~/Library/Internet Plug-ins/ and they can be moved to the neighbouring Internet Plug-ins (Disabled) folders.
Now, I only have the following plugins enabled (which I know I use):
JavaAppletPlugin.plugin
nsIQTScriptablePlugin.xpt
Quartz Composer.webplugin
QuickTime Plugin.plugin
I've moved the following plugins to the disabled folders (which I know I don't use):
CANONiMAGEGATEWAYDL.plugin
CANONiMAGEGATEWAYLI.plugin
fbplugin_1_0_0.plugin
googletalkbrowserplugin.plugin
iPhotoPhotocast.plugin
LogMeIn.plugin
Loki.plugin
Move-Media-Player.plugin
NP-PPC-Dir-Shockwave
npdivx.xpt
npgtpo3dautoplugin.plugin
O3D.plugin
OfficeLiveBrowserPlugin.plugin
SharePointBrowserPlugin.plugin
SharePointWebKitPlugin.webplugin
Unity Web Player.plugin
WebEx.plugin
XML View Plugin.webplugin
