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Q: OSX Lion + 2011 iMac 27'' + Video = Freeze

Hello.

 

Got a brand new 27'' iMac, installed Lion. The machine freezes randomly when starting to play videos, either on Youtube, Quicktime, iTunes.

 

When it freezes, the mouse still works, but the machine doesn't respond to any command, requiring me to hit the power button and restart the computer.

 

Searched on kernel.log and system.log, and found no crash/error/message.

 

Anyone suffering from the same problem? The machine is pretty solid, been running some OpenCL kernels too and they are ok. It's only video decoding (possible on the GPU) that seems to freeze randomly.

iMac, Mac OS X (10.7)

Posted on Jul 21, 2011 6:46 AM

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  • by Nightfae,

    Nightfae Nightfae Aug 16, 2011 5:39 AM in response to rubenlx
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    Aug 16, 2011 5:39 AM in response to rubenlx

    At least I had the Firmware Update installed under Snow Leo. As I understand, that is a hardware firmware flash procedure, it is still in place.

     

    Software Update also does not show this one up (but it did back then under Snow Leo)

  • by pipqueak,

    pipqueak pipqueak Aug 16, 2011 5:54 AM in response to socaleyedoc
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    Aug 16, 2011 5:54 AM in response to socaleyedoc

    "In summary - my 27" 2011 iMac would freeze when attempting to play video (either streamed via youtube or Hulu or something or even just an .mp4 with Quicktime). My mouse pointer would still work, but no response and I would have to do a hard reboot.

     

    THE FIX:

    Go to Finder -> Macintosh HD -> Library -> Quicktime.

    In that folder I originally had two components:

         Perian.component

         AC3MovieImport.component

     

    Essentially I removed the AC3MovieImport.component, and left the Perian.component. Reboot. (If you don't want to outright delete it - and I don't blame you - just copy it to the desktop for safe keeping)"

     

     

     

    I went to the directory as you outlined, but I didn't have those files. Instead, I have:

    AppleIntermediateCodec.component

    AppleMPEG2Codec.component

     

    Do you know if doing away with either of these will help? Any help is appreciated!

  • by putnik,

    putnik putnik Aug 16, 2011 5:55 AM in response to Nightfae
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    Aug 16, 2011 5:55 AM in response to Nightfae

    There was a version 1.2 and now I believe it is 2.0 dated June 20th. You'd need to check your installed version. I guess any automatic update will not be put out separately and would come with 10.7.1 or whenever.

  • by putnik,

    putnik putnik Aug 16, 2011 7:24 AM in response to pipqueak
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    Aug 16, 2011 7:24 AM in response to pipqueak

    You do know that Perian has an update for Lion, as does Flip4Mac, not to mention Java and Flash, which at long long last seems to be out of beta.

     

    I read somewhere else that residual DiVX components can cause problems too.

  • by raphaeladidas,

    raphaeladidas raphaeladidas Aug 16, 2011 9:12 AM in response to pipqueak
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    Aug 16, 2011 9:12 AM in response to pipqueak

    pipqueak wrote:

     

    "In summary - my 27" 2011 iMac would freeze when attempting to play video (either streamed via youtube or Hulu or something or even just an .mp4 with Quicktime). My mouse pointer would still work, but no response and I would have to do a hard reboot.

     

    THE FIX:

    Go to Finder -> Macintosh HD -> Library -> Quicktime.

    In that folder I originally had two components:

         Perian.component

         AC3MovieImport.component

     

    Essentially I removed the AC3MovieImport.component, and left the Perian.component. Reboot. (If you don't want to outright delete it - and I don't blame you - just copy it to the desktop for safe keeping)"

     

     

     

    I went to the directory as you outlined, but I didn't have those files. Instead, I have:

    AppleIntermediateCodec.component

    AppleMPEG2Codec.component

     

    Do you know if doing away with either of these will help? Any help is appreciated!

    Look in Home folder/Library/Quicktime instead.

  • by raphaeladidas,

    raphaeladidas raphaeladidas Aug 16, 2011 9:26 AM in response to raphaeladidas
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    Aug 16, 2011 9:26 AM in response to raphaeladidas

    raphaeladidas wrote:

     

    socaleyedoc wrote:

     

    THE FIX:

    Go to Finder -> Macintosh HD -> Library -> Quicktime.

    In that folder I originally had two components:

         Perian.component

         AC3MovieImport.component

     

    Essentially I removed the AC3MovieImport.component, and left the Perian.component. Reboot. (If you don't want to outright delete it - and I don't blame you - just copy it to the desktop for safe keeping)

     

    The short explaination is that both components do the same thing (Perian is apparently more comprehensive) but they try to do the same function and create issues

     

    Even after sleep mode, I have had no issues whatsoever.

     

    ~socaleyedoc

     

    This worked for me.  Not a single problem since removing AC3MovieImport.component.

     

    But it seems unlikely that EVERYONE having this problem has Perian installed, so I'd guess it's a problem with just AC3MovieImport.

    Except I believe it's Perian that installs the AC3MovieImport component.  It seems odd that I've removed this component and don't have a problem but there must be many non-Perian users on here who still do.

  • by Sailboatskipper,

    Sailboatskipper Sailboatskipper Aug 16, 2011 9:59 AM in response to raphaeladidas
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    Aug 16, 2011 9:59 AM in response to raphaeladidas

    Quick FYI - Snow Leopard with Perian installed does not have an AC3MovieImport component.

  • by Steve Self,

    Steve Self Steve Self Aug 16, 2011 10:31 AM in response to raphaeladidas
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    Aug 16, 2011 10:31 AM in response to raphaeladidas

    While I appreciate the commitment to help everyone, many of us do not have either of those files installed anywhere in our OS and still have the freezing issue.  So while those files may contribute to some people's issue, the deletion of them does not help many others. 

     

    In our case the best solution is to set the computer to NEVER SLEEP. Then after a restart there is no more freezing.  I do get some video pixel artifacts in long Finder lists after working for hours... but these seem transient and I hope clear up with the fix Apple is working on.

  • by raphaeladidas,

    raphaeladidas raphaeladidas Aug 16, 2011 11:15 AM in response to Steve Self
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    Aug 16, 2011 11:15 AM in response to Steve Self

    Steve Self wrote:

     

    While I appreciate the commitment to help everyone, many of us do not have either of those files installed anywhere in our OS and still have the freezing issue.  So while those files may contribute to some people's issue, the deletion of them does not help many others.

     

    One train of logic might suggest that the solution to the problem would be to install Perian, making sure there is no AC3MovieImport.component.

     

    Actually, I think I'm going to uninstall Perian and see if the problem returns.

  • by raphaeladidas,

    raphaeladidas raphaeladidas Aug 16, 2011 11:16 AM in response to Sailboatskipper
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    Aug 16, 2011 11:16 AM in response to Sailboatskipper

    Sailboatskipper wrote:

     

    Quick FYI - Snow Leopard with Perian installed does not have an AC3MovieImport component.

    Do you mean in general or persons with SL and Perian who are having the video problem?

  • by jdsilja,

    jdsilja jdsilja Aug 16, 2011 11:32 AM in response to rubenlx
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    Aug 16, 2011 11:32 AM in response to rubenlx

    Having the same problem Imac 27 i7 ssd 2tb fully loaded.  Paid about 3000 dollars for the computer i always wanted and it locks up.  It only locks up in safari when watching videos qucktime or flash.  it locks up about 50% of the time.  have to hold the power button.    Help anyone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

     

     

  • by Kirk McElhearn,

    Kirk McElhearn Kirk McElhearn Aug 16, 2011 11:38 AM in response to rubenlx
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    Aug 16, 2011 11:38 AM in response to rubenlx

    A summary for those coming late to this long thread. I've been keeping a blog post up to date on my website with the many methods used to try and solve the problem, none of which work:

     

    New iMac + Lion + Video = Freeze – Updated

  • by pauljpimentel,

    pauljpimentel pauljpimentel Aug 16, 2011 11:54 AM in response to Kirk McElhearn
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    Aug 16, 2011 11:54 AM in response to Kirk McElhearn

    well i have some issues with gameing specificly on my 2009 macbook pro...and windows7 partition ...10.6.7....had no issues with video perforamnce for games on my system either with lion osx or my windows 7 partition.  Until i upgraded to lion .

  • by putnik,

    putnik putnik Aug 16, 2011 12:09 PM in response to jdsilja
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    Aug 16, 2011 12:09 PM in response to jdsilja

    Try the Graphics firmware update available at the Apple Support website: For iMac Graphic FW version 2.0 came out on June 2th so check your computer has been updated.

     

    http://www.apple.com/uk/support/imac/intel/

     

    Third party software is still evolving for Lion and versions you have installed may well be out-of-date. In particular Adobe Flash has recently come out of beta. Other programs you definitely need to update include Java, Perian, Flip4Mac and your printer drivers.

     

    Any maintenance programs you use are important because old versions may damage things. Apptrap, OnyX etc should be priority updates.

     

    Repairing permissions is always a good idea after a major installation too. I use the automation script in OnyX because it clears caches and refreshs the dyld cache. These can harbour old data sometimes.

     

    Have I forgotten anything?

  • by raphaeladidas,

    raphaeladidas raphaeladidas Aug 16, 2011 12:14 PM in response to raphaeladidas
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    Aug 16, 2011 12:14 PM in response to raphaeladidas

    raphaeladidas wrote:

     

    Steve Self wrote:

     

    While I appreciate the commitment to help everyone, many of us do not have either of those files installed anywhere in our OS and still have the freezing issue.  So while those files may contribute to some people's issue, the deletion of them does not help many others.

     

    One train of logic might suggest that the solution to the problem would be to install Perian, making sure there is no AC3MovieImport.component.

     

    Actually, I think I'm going to uninstall Perian and see if the problem returns.

    I've uninstalled Perian and reinstalled it, including the AC3MovieImport.component, and under any condition I can't reintroduce the problem.

     

    It's just disappeared for me for no discernable reason, so I'm done theorizing about it.

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