Lion - Horrible MacBook Pro Battery Life

alto2 wrote:

petermac87 wrote:

alto2 wrote:

Oh for god's sake, people. What is the matter with all of you? This is not what I want to wake up to in my inbox in the morning, and it's not doing anyone any good.

Unsubscibe to emails on the topic.

Thanks heaps.

You are welcome

Pete

Wow. I have never seen anyone so singularly full of himself and for so little reason. Pete, you have poisoned this whole conversation. Yes, YOU, with your smug "there's no problem and if you don't like me it's YOUR fault" attitude. I shouldn't have to leave a discussion that might be useful to me because you insist on behaving appallingly and can't take the fact that I'll call you on it.

You are a troll beyond measure. You could teach classes on how to troll properly. Obviously, "points" mean nothing because I can't for the life of me see how you earned them, and I don't trust a single thing you say because you present yourself so cavalierly and with so little cause. I certainly hope you're proud of yourself.

You could have done someone some good here, or you could have admitted that it was time for you to go (and it is well PAST time for you to leave this thread since you are a hypocrite and have nothing to contribute but bile and ego--let me say that again in smaller words, since you seem to have trouble with this concept, IT IS TIME FOR YOU TO GO, WE DO NOT NEED OR WANT YOUR CRAP AND YOUR EGO HERE).

I've been on the internet since before most people even heard of it, but rarely, if ever, have I ever seen someone as poisonous to a discussion as you are. Well done.

Thank you, but I thought you had gone?

Good Luck

Pete

petermac87 wrote:

Thank you, but I thought you had gone?

Good Luck

Pete

I never said I was going anywhere, but I see now that you can't read, either. I still hope to learn something helpful here, unlike you who stick around for no apparent reason--oh, right, I forgot, you stick around to be obnoxious. My mistake.

alto2 wrote:

petermac87 wrote:

Thank you, but I thought you had gone?

Good Luck

Pete

I never said I was going anywhere, but I see now that you can't read, either. I still hope to learn something helpful here, unlike you who stick around for no apparent reason--oh, right, I forgot, you stick around to be obnoxious. My mistake.

Ouch!

Goodnight

Pete

I'm happy to unsubscribe to this ridiculous thread. But, before I go, I'd like to say something that, I think, reflect the opinion of the majority of the posters:

******* Y-O-U, petermac87. You are one egocentric and sad a-hole!!!

That been said, I'm gone for good. Bye.

mvgodinho wrote:

That been said, I'm gone for good. Bye.

Thank You. Bye

Pete

petermac87 wrote:

mvgodinho wrote:

That been said, I'm gone for good. Bye.

Thank You. Bye

Pete

And, fittingly enough, the cheese stands alone.

alto2 wrote:

petermac87 wrote:

mvgodinho wrote:

That been said, I'm gone for good. Bye.

Thank You. Bye

Pete

And, fittingly enough, the cheese stands alone.

ROTFL!

Apple - Batteries - Notebooks

This is going to be an attempt to bring some sanity and information to this thread.

I got a Feb 2011 model MBP, 15 inch. Was supposed to come with 10.6; had 10.7 instead.

Knowing about the battery issue, I put the machine through its paces, without transferring my stuff over first. It passed.

I then used migration assistant to move stuff from a 10.5.8 PPC machine.

Never do that. Never. Just don't.

Internet reinstall was a wonder. Erase and reinstall.

Oh, and after reinstall? A patch to improve using migration assistant :-). Sigh.

But what I did find, when I just copied my home directory over from a time machine backup? Stuff that should not have been loaded was.

So, I did something "smart".

I made a new subdirectory in my documents folder, and moved everything into there. Not in the official locations, right? Should not be bothered by the system, right?

Nope -- system profiler showed that it was still being found, and used.

What worked for me was to make a sparsebundle, and copy everything old into that. Only move stuff out of the sparse bundle into my real directory as needed. If it's not mounted when I log in, LaunchServices doesn't seem to find it, and nothing runs that should not.

Presto! Battery life was a good with migrated stuff as with a pure lion install.

Then, came the addition of new stuff. Migration of old. And today I discovered something key.

I have been using Temperature Monitor -- http://www.bresink.com/osx/TemperatureMonitor.html -- to monitor my video card. It shows -128 when turned off (warning: If it is not on when you start TM, it will show as disconnected, and will not collect readings. Turn it on, start TM, turn it off.).

Today, I installed GfxStatus.

Even with GfxStatus set to integrated, Temperature Monitor still shows it having a temperature above -128 -- meaning running -- when some apps run/start. Skype was the first such program I've found. There may be more. For example, about 15 minutes ago it blipped on for a few seconds and then off -- and I don't know what caused it.

So:

1. GfxStatus is not a cure-all. It helps, but graphics still switch over for unknown reasons.

2. Old software can infect your machine even if you think you're not using it. Put it in a sparsebundle that is not mounted normally.

3. Drivers ... yes, don't even have them on your machine. Something you don't use anymore can still be found and loaded by Launch Services. Apple really needed an uninstaller system, not just "Uninstallers aren't needed, just trash the app".

Hope this helps.

This is the first time I hear of a bunch of agents/daemons/services launched at startup without being placed in the appropiate directories (/Library/LaunchAgents ~/Library/LauchAgents etc.), but rather in an user's Documents folder.

And your intention was to bring some sanity into this thread?!

Have you checked if those services were really running via terminal or Activity Monitor? Cause what you're stating sounds really awkward to me.

Hey guys! I'm experiencing the same problem (very hot and about 1.5-2 hours of battery life ;-() and I bought my macbook pro in late december 2011 so I've only had it for a while and I'm utilising all the power saving options! Also I'm running OSX LION 10.7.3 on a 13'.

Apple...please find a fix soon! It's really annoying inconvenient to have to charge the battery every 2 hours especially when you're on the go! (plus part of the reason I invested in a Mac was because of the extended battery life....sigh).

Hi, keybounce,

Thanks for your sanity, on multiple fronts! Your experience sounds much like mine--I used Migration Assistant, suspected something old and incompatible was causing the problem, restored, and only migrated my data. I've been slowly installing apps as I need them rather than risk a conflict, but it sounds like even that may not have been enough.

I'm not terribly familiar with sparsebundles. Is there an online resource you recommend, or could you offer a little more detail about how you found/bundled the problem files?

Many thanks!

One small question for you all:

Can someone with Filevault on confirm they have the battery life issue and can someone with Filevault off do the same?

Just trying to eliminate variables. I have FV on and battery life never exceeds 4 hours. And, like everyone else, had 7 hours under SL. Apple has a serious problem here because, as it stands, their advertising for new MBPs is misleading.

The SMC reset did not fix my issue and there are no rogue processes visible in Act. Monitor. Has anyone reverted to SL on the same machine to confirm battery life recovery?

Thanks

bew1234 wrote:

One small question for you all:

Can someone with Filevault on confirm they have the battery life issue and can someone with Filevault off do the same?

I have FileVault on. I can't tell you what it might've been like under SL since this MBP was new in November, though.

I also just noticed that Bluetooth was on for no good reason and turned it off. I'm not sure how much of a difference that might (or might not) make.

Is the same for me.

I have FileVault on and my battery life is really short (2h).

I have tried to install Lion without FileVault but the battery duration is however really short (2h).

With SL there are not problems.

I have a MacBook 5,1 (unibody alluminium intel core 2 duo 2.4, late 2008, 8GB of Ram).