Q: Lion - Horrible MacBook Pro Battery Life

Rayced wrote:

 

Csound1 wrote:

 

Whatever you want to think is fine, I have 43 Lion machines in the field, none of them have any battery issues, diagnosing your problem would be the most help but you are not asking for help, bye

 

Sure.

Me too. I own a flying a cow. Have you ever seen one?

So you are neither offering or asking for help?

Csound1 wrote:

 

I made 1 good Lion image and deployed it to all the machines, they are identical (software) and behave identically.

Good, then the one I downloaded from the Apple store must be corrupted in some way . Or the "upgrade" process is not perfect. Whatever the case may be, something needs fixing and that's the point of this whole discussion. 

 

Csound1 wrote:

 

Whatever you want to think is fine, I have 43 Lion machines in the field, none of them have any battery issues, diagnosing your problem would be the most help but you are not asking for help, bye

Let me guess... you also happen to work for Apple and you are trying to convince us that this problem is not real. Either way, please allow me to ask a question: why are you still waisting your time on this topic? Just bored to death with the 43 machines that have no battery problem whatsoever?!

Csound1 wrote:

Why wouldn't 'they' say 70, you really need to ask that? it can't go 70, regardless of useage but it can go 7 under the right circumstances.

Would you, please, be so kind and define the right circumstances for the rest of us, here?

Loerincz wrote:

 

 

Csound1 wrote:

 

Whatever you want to think is fine, I have 43 Lion machines in the field, none of them have any battery issues, diagnosing your problem would be the most help but you are not asking for help, bye

Let me guess... you also happen to work for Apple and you are trying to convince us that this problem is not real. Either way, please allow me to ask a question: why are you still waisting your time on this topic? Just bored to death with the 43 machines that have no battery problem whatsoever?!

Because this problem must have a cause, and if you stop complaining and start looking that cause may be found, and fixed. Get it.

Csound1 wrote:

 

I made 1 good Lion image and deployed it to all the machines, they are identical (software) and behave identically.

OK, so, in my case, since my MBP came with Lion preinstalled, that means that Apple mad, somehow, a 'wrong' lion image and installed it. Right? Again, my MBP came with Lion, I did not upgrade it. Now, Mr. Knows-It-All, would you be so kind and explain this? Since you take care of so many MBP's, you must have an answer!

There is an issue here and if you don't see it, you shouldn't comment here.

Because this problem must have a cause, and if you stop complaining and start looking that cause may be found, and fixed. Get it.

Dude, sorry, but you're nuts. We're not engineers, we're people who paid an insane amount of $$$$ for a machine that doesn't work as advertised. I think we have the right to be a little annoyed. I paid this much money BECAUSE I don't want to waste time troubleshooting random problems. 

+ You're the one who started being anal about "up to 7 hours doesn't mean 7 hours" when the point was quite clear.

+ If any Apple engineer needs my help, I'm willing to offer my time. Isn't that a funny sentence...

calg wrote:

 

There is an issue here and if you don't see it, you shouldn't comment here.

I do see the issue, I also see that complaints are not fixing it.

ReDRuMxxx wrote:

 

Because this problem must have a cause, and if you stop complaining and start looking that cause may be found, and fixed. Get it.

Dude, sorry, but you're nuts. We're not engineers, we're people who paid an insane amount of $$$$ for a machine that doesn't work as advertised. I think we have the right to be a little annoyed. I paid this much money BECAUSE I don't want to waste time troubleshooting random problems. 

 

Have you done anything at all (like opening Activity Monitor and checking for processes using large amounts of processor time)

Have you booted in Safe Mode in order to disable 3rd party software additions?

Have you in fact done anything other than complain (which in my experience does not fix anything?)

Dude, you are out of line. Tons of people have been trying to locate the source of the problem.

My situation. The moment I installed Lion, I noticed my battery life dip by around 50%. I immediately did a google search on "macbook pro lion terrible battery life" and found this thread. No, I didn't do an analysis. But it is very unlikely that it was a coincidence that I did that search. Clearly, something was different.

Please keep discussions and comments like yours out of here.

Csound1 wrote:

 

Have you done anything at all (like opening Activity Monitor and checking for processes using large amounts of processor time)

Have you booted in Safe Mode in order to disable 3rd party software additions?

Have you in fact done anything other than complain (which in my experience does not fix anything?)

I know I'm feeding the troll, but ...

DUDE. Read the pages and pages and pages of comments here. Yes, people have checked Activity Monitor. Nothing was using huge amounts of processor time. Yes, people have booted into Safe Mode. It did nothing. People have tried lots of things. There have been spreadsheets detailing estimated durations versus actual durations. People have regression tested back through different OS versions. A consensus seems to have been reached that the problem showed up in 10.6.8 (not for everyone, but for many.)

You're not adding anything to this discussion other than hostility. I'm truly glad that your 43 machines work perfectly. That's great! But people here honestly have a problem and are trying to figure it out. So please stop berating them, and let us continue with trying to solve this issue.

I may not be an (computer) engineer but I'm not an idiot.

Csound1 wrote:

Have you done anything at all (like opening Activity Monitor and checking for processes using large amounts of processor time)

Of course.

Have you booted in Safe Mode in order to disable 3rd party software additions?

Yes. 

Have you in fact done anything other than complain (which in my experience does not fix anything?)

I spent a lot of time=money researching and troubleshooting the issue. Comparing performance of different Macbook Pro's I have access to + All the things everyone in this thread and around the internet suggested. The only thing I haven't done is a clean install, since, as far as I can gather, it hasn't helped anyone.

ReDRuMxxx wrote:

 

I may not be an (computer) engineer but I'm not an idiot.

 

 

Csound1 wrote:

Have you done anything at all (like opening Activity Monitor and checking for processes using large amounts of processor time)

 

Of course.

 

Have you booted in Safe Mode in order to disable 3rd party software additions?

 

Yes. 

 

Have you in fact done anything other than complain (which in my experience does not fix anything?)

 

I spent a lot of time=money researching and troubleshooting the issue. Comparing performance of different Macbook Pro's I have access to + All the things everyone in this thread and around the internet suggested. The only thing I haven't done is a clean install, since, as far as I can gather, it hasn't helped anyone.

All of my installs were 'clean'

What were the results of your investigations?

Rayced wrote:

 

Fudge! You're right! Tim Cook in person should give you a brand new iPhone 4gs for what you've done!

I know what your saying.  I'm not saying they owe me anything other than a fix to this issue. But, Apple Support contacted me, asked for information from my system, which I dutifully took the time to provide.  Would you not expect a response if someone contacted you for information from your system?

The term "common courtesy" springs to mind.

So far several of us have provided information to investigate this yet, to my knowledge, no signs of response have been forthcoming.  Hence the .