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Jul 31, 2011 11:07 AM in response to Prodactief.nuby Trexgroove,Hi,
normally you have to use you SL disc who was delivered with your MBP.
I did the downgrade for 5 days now, and it´s not so simple as usual. I had to erase everything, and at the end it still show you this ugly Linen background and ask you if you want to download Lion. It´s a little bit scary, because the HDD supposed to be empty. But i took the Time Machine option and after 2 hours i had my old SL on it, but the Account wasn´t working anymore.
My advice is take the time, a six pack of good beer, maybe a good movie and make the change.
For the Battery issue i´m back to my old 8 hours for internet and 3-4 hours when i work on it. And it´s not an helicopter anymore.
TrexGroove
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Jul 31, 2011 11:09 AM in response to LandonABby CreativeSmith,Enabling "Always Show Scroll Bars" does appear have benefited my battery life. I stress the word "appear." Very hard to determine cause and effect. Also, disabled iStatPro--my favorite widget, and disconnected my external mouse.
Having said that, did not experience this battery weirdness with SL--even with all of the above enabled. Was getting roughtly twice the battery life.
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Jul 31, 2011 11:15 AM in response to CreativeSmithby vea1083,My MacBook Pro has the same battery life as in SL, the only difference is that Lion is running a little hotter than before...
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Jul 31, 2011 3:39 PM in response to Bob Jacobsonby Pixelation,Okay, I did a recondition on my battery the other day, let it die off completely, let it sit in sleep mode for 5-hours, then gave it a full charge, and that seemed to help a little. My battery life went up from 1:50 to 2:30, so there was some gain to be had, but it's still not what it used to be.
Again, the specs on my MBP are as follows:
Model Name: MacBook Pro
Model Identifier: MacBookPro4,1
Processor Name: Intel Core 2 Duo
Processor Speed: 2.5 GHz
Number of Processors: 1
Total Number of Cores: 2
L2 Cache: 6 MB
Memory: 4 GB
Bus Speed: 800 MHz
Battery Charge
Current Charge: 4170 mAh
Maximum Charge: 5174 mAh
79% Charge (as of this posting)
Battery Capacity
Current Capacity: 5174 mAh
Design Capacity: 5500 mAh
94% Life
Details:
Battery Loadcycles: 222
Battery Temp: 87.8F
Battery Power Usage: 25.8 Watt
According to Lion, I have about 1:50 on the battery right now. I'm going to do some writing and see how long it lasts me.
Per LandonAB obersvation, I have disabled the "Hide Scrollbars" feature in Lion. I'm wondering how that's going to affect the battery life.
Here's to hoping and experimenting.
As for my system as of now, here's what I'm running:
Mail
Twitter
Headline
Chrome (6 windows, 32 tabs total [research & job hunting])
and finally
Pages (1 Document open)
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Jul 31, 2011 11:30 PM in response to Pixelationby marysplacestudio,I've got a 2.3 Ghz, 17", MBP only a few days old. It came with Lion installed. I'm getting 2-3 hours realtime unplugged. And that's just using email and a browser.
Wow...
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Jul 31, 2011 11:37 PM in response to marysplacestudioby TheSmokeMonster,Wow that's unbelievable!! The most high end MBP with lion preinstalled! There's just no excuse here! I really hope this means it's an OS issue and not hardware. It would help, probably, if I could turn off mission control completely.. I'm sure it's saving what my desktop is doing which means it's doing it twice? I've noticed when I watch a video and go into mission control it shows the video playing in the desktop and in the preview desktops in mission control. It looks neat but I'm sure that has to eat up not only cpu but battery life.
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Jul 31, 2011 11:52 PM in response to marysplacestudioby marysplacestudio,I should note that I have reset the SMC on my 2.3 Ghz brand new 17" MBP, re-calibrated, deleted the Citrix (if it was there), added the scroll bars, and whatever other advice the plethera of threads on this suggested, gave it a pedicure, back massage, and a perm, and this computer is no better than a 2008.
New clothes—same old battery life: maybe 3 hours at best.
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Jul 31, 2011 11:57 PM in response to marysplacestudioby Pixelation,Just disconnected from a full charge from a dead battery.
At 100% it read 3:29
It dropped 1% in a matter of seconds and the time dropped to 2:55.
I'm using coconutBattery 2.7 to watch my battery life.
Even new in 2008, my MBP didn't get this bad of a battery life, and this battery is about 6-months old now
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Aug 1, 2011 12:02 AM in response to Pixelationby marysplacestudio,That proves, then, that is a software issue (since I'm on a brand new MBP).
When a fix comes, however, is uncertain.
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Aug 1, 2011 12:38 AM in response to marysplacestudioby jesslorenzo,Yes. it is conclusive that it is an OS problem based on these threads and others I have also seen.
I don't have an indication yet when an update is due. I really don't want to reformat my new MBP to roll back to snow leopard. I'm holding out on the update.
This is my first mac in years. From your experience, how fast does Apple release an update in a major OS revision like LION? days?, weeks? If it is months, I might have to buy a new battery together with the update.
JUST A THOUGHT/QUESTION:
I am sure that with Apple's resources, they saw this during testing phase. Why was there no disclosure on this bug? Is this a usual apple policy?
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Aug 1, 2011 12:45 AM in response to jesslorenzoby William Kucharski,This wasn't a big issue during testing or Apple would have fixed it then.
As I've mentioned before, the battery life on my MacBook Pro 5,1 with a 2.66 GHz Core 2 Duo went up on the upgrade from SL to Lion, from 3.5 to over 4.5 hours.
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Aug 1, 2011 12:47 AM in response to jesslorenzoby TheSmokeMonster,I would say apples policy has always been "we know what's best for you" but they seem to also utilize feedback from consumers, i.e. all those people who bought an iPhone.
although over time I think all of my hardpressed issues have been resolved either by third party apps or apple themselves. Like the magic trackpad, I had given feedback the momment I got my unibody MBP with one big glass button and gesture recognition. I told apple I wanted that in a wireless device, and I'm sure other people did too and they made it!. I was also peeved that my RAM only went up to 4gb but with an EFI update, it now maxes out to 8, giving me a few more years with my machine.
Maybe it's good that Apple is taking so long to update this os? I hear they have 10.7.2 out for devs but what happened to 10.7.1? you know?
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Aug 1, 2011 12:48 AM in response to jesslorenzoby Pixelation,I'm pretty sure the bug fix is already in the works. When they released 10.6.0 "Snow Leopard", it took Apple about two weeks to issue their first bug fix for Snow Leopard.
I imagine 10.7.1 will be out by August 19th.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_OS_X_Snow_Leopard#Release_history
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Aug 1, 2011 12:51 AM in response to Pixelationby TheSmokeMonster,aug 19? that's more then two weeks.
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Aug 1, 2011 12:54 AM in response to TheSmokeMonsterby Pixelation,Cushioning room for date felxibilty, just incase I'm wrong about their fix for this...