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  • Csound1 Level 8 Level 8 (41,750 points)

    Bob Jacobson wrote:

     

    Wikipedia is such a reliable guide to batteries in general and Apple batteries in particular.  Like when you're copping a term paper. 

     

    Apple batteries have a special calibration technology built in for a purpose.  Unless you're saying Apple is misleading its customers, asking them to calibrate their batteries regularly, even if they keep their power sources plugged in.  Are you?  That would be doing Mac users a disservice, indeed.  And demeaning Apple.  Bye again. 

    If plugged in continuously Apple recommend once a month, and it is NOT the battery being calibrated Bob, it is the power metering system,

     

    Couldn't you just have stuck to

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  • Bob Jacobson Level 1 Level 1 (115 points)

    Yeah, bye.  You've wasted two pages to say nothing.  You're not serious.

  • Csound1 Level 8 Level 8 (41,750 points)

    Bob Jacobson wrote:

     

    Yeah, bye.  You've wasted two pages to say nothing.  You're not serious.

    Unfortunately you didn't mean it last time, now I don't believe that you mean it at all.

  • milwaukee_bronze Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I Gotta say CSound, I'm with Bob on this one.

     

    It seems from this:

     

    Exercise Your Machine

    Lithium-ion polymer batteries need to be used for maximum performance. If you don’t use your device often, be sure to complete a charge cycle at least once a month. Click the links below to add regular reminders to your iCal calendar.

     

    Found here:  http://www.apple.com/batteries/  Towards the bottom on the Right-hand side

     

    That Apple are encouraging people to use the battery to maintain Maximum Performance.  I think I would rather do that than follow Wikipedia.

     

    The way I interpret it, Apple are saying:  Use it this way if you can IE: Full charge / discharge, but if you cant you should do it once a month at a minimum.

     

    Getting back to the topic (although somewhat sarcastically), perhaps it's a new feature of Lion to drain your battery faster and ensure the battery is well conditioned.  ;-D ha haha

     

    Message was edited by: milwaukee_bronze Fixed my **** awful spelling.

  • Csound1 Level 8 Level 8 (41,750 points)

    milwaukee_bronze wrote:

     

    I Gotta say CSound, I'm with Bob on this one.

    I'm sorry for you,

     

    Before you choose bad discharge traits try this article, one of Wikipedias source articles.

     

    http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batterie s

     

    And once a month is mine and Apples recomendation for a fairly full discharge (never beyond the shutdown point)

  • milwaukee_bronze Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Thanks for the reference,  no need to feel sorry for me.

     

    But this article also recommends removing the battery to ensure it doesn't cause increased risk or burning...   I'm pretty sure Apple would prefer me not to do this.  Especially as it is non user replaceable??

     

    Your source also recommends not leaving the laptop on the power grid which seems like a contradiction to what you are saying and adds further support to Bobs' apple article.  IE:  cycle the power more regularly than once a month if it fits your workflow.

     

    Thanks for the perspective though.

     

    @Bob, I think mulligans and Csound bring their own perspective.  It seems we don't all agree with it some of the time, but why dismiss them completely?  whose to say that they won't have the key to resolving this as more information come to light. 

     

    It would be great if we could all be a little more courteous to each other though.  At the end of the day we're all in this discussion for the same ultimate goal.  Let's not lose sight of that.

  • Bob Jacobson Level 1 Level 1 (115 points)

    I don't insult them, milwaukee bronze.  They insult themselves.  They have been mean and sarcastic to every one who has engaged them in conversation, and picked on people who haven't but who have language problems, or different ways of handling their computers, or are novices asking reasonable questions.  Although Csound1's right, there's no way to censor them, it's disgusting to watch these two abuse the resource Apple has provided just to make other people feel bad.  This has continued for at least three months on three forums, possibly more.  It's chased many people away.  Bullying is bullying, online or in the real world.  How much more courteous should we be? 

  • Csound1 Level 8 Level 8 (41,750 points)

    Bob Jacobson wrote:

     

     

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    How much more courteous should we be?

    More than not at all please.

  • Csound1 Level 8 Level 8 (41,750 points)

    milwaukee_bronze wrote:

     

    Thanks for the reference,  no need to feel sorry for me.

     

    But this article also recommends removing the battery to ensure it doesn't cause increased risk or burning...   I'm pretty sure Apple would prefer me not to do this.  Especially as it is non user replaceable??

     

    Your source also recommends not leaving the laptop on the power grid which seems like a contradiction to what you are saying and adds further support to Bobs' apple article.  IE:  cycle the power more regularly than once a month if it fits your workflow.

     

    Thanks for the perspective though.

     

    @Bob, I think mulligans and Csound bring their own perspective.  It seems we don't all agree with it some of the time, but why dismiss them completely?  whose to say that they won't have the key to resolving this as more information come to light. 

     

    It would be great if we could all be a little more courteous to each other though.  At the end of the day we're all in this discussion for the same ultimate goal.  Let's not lose sight of that.

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  • Bob Jacobson Level 1 Level 1 (115 points)

    And this guy once accused me of cut-and-paste logic.  Too much.

  • rmatullo Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Seriously now, what is the tech going to say when I direct them to this thread?

     

    Can we get a Mod in here to delete some of this?! Another straw on the camels back: Apple is too cheap/lazy to mod their official forums.

     

    NOTE: If you've been reading this thread for more than a week, we all know who is here purely to antagonize people and who is here actually trying to help. I posted about the Capture_data.dmg and now that post is buried several pages back, for what? This?

  • Csound1 Level 8 Level 8 (41,750 points)

    Bob Jacobson wrote:

     

    And this guy once accused me of cut-and-paste logic.  Too much.

    When you actually post any attribution in support of your preposterous ideas I will reserve the right to critique them, but you don't, not even the ones about me and some iMacs that you don't seem to be able to find.

  • mulligans missus Level 2 Level 2 (370 points)

    Why would Apple moderate these forums? It's a user to user (and Npb) forum with it's own mods. And this thread is a dogs breakfast of issues. Old and confusing. If you really have issues, start your own.

     

    Cheers

  • Csound1 Level 8 Level 8 (41,750 points)

    mulligans missus wrote:

     

    Why would Apple moderate these forums? It's a user to user (and Npb) forum with it's own mods. And this thread is a dogs breakfast of issues. Old and confusing. If you really have issues, start your own.

     

    Cheers

    When did I suggest that Apple should moderate this thread? I think you are getting your posters confused.

  • rmatullo Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    discussions.apple.com

     

    Apple Support Communities ID is linked directly to my computer's Serial Number.

     

    "Start your own forum"? I bought an overpriced $3000 dollar laptop, the least apple could do is implement an easily accessible ignore function for forums in their domain: eat well troll.

     

    Maybe I can buy Bob some breathing room here and distract you with obvious facts about Apple's startling and clear inadequacies on their own domain (Apple.com?). Enroll in the Dick Cheney school of gov't did you?