Q: Lion - Horrible MacBook Pro Battery Life

petermac87 wrote:

 

lesliefromstockton-on-tees wrote:

 

Trying a version passed to me, if the store staff just look at you and deny the issue and if Apple will not help, you have to help yourself!  Good news is that they appear to have improved things,

So you are illegally running a Developers Copy that others have had to register for and pay for, and you feel justified in both using it and bragging about it in the Public Forums?

 

Pete

Feel like explaining which law is being broken by lesliefromstockton-on-tees?

Csound1 wrote:

 

petermac87 wrote:

 

lesliefromstockton-on-tees wrote:

 

Trying a version passed to me,

 

 

Also

 

Then you are meant to be posting in the developers forum, or otherwise you are breaking your no disclosure agreement you agreed to when downloading the developers beta, and not in the public forums. 

Pete

petermac87 wrote:

 

Csound1 wrote:

 

petermac87 wrote:

 

lesliefromstockton-on-tees wrote:

 

Trying a version passed to me,

Pete

What are you claiming, theft?

The store employee who passed it may have committed theft but Leslie hasn't, she was given a copy by an Apple employee, a person Leslie could reasonably infer had legal access to the software.

No illegality involved, murky ethics maybe, but look at the thread he/he is posting in, it's a farce.

Read the post again, it wasn't mentioned that an Apple Staff member passed it on to her. Read properly before you jump down people's throats.

You should know the rules in regards to Developers Copies as a Level 5.

Pete

Who's bragging? I was asked to try this version for a short while in an attempt to see if it improved my 2.5hrs battery life and it does - all done legit i might add!!

I now know I don't have a faulty battery or other issues with my new late 2011 laptop.  Just glad to report that Apple appear to have fixed the issue and that's good news for everyone and its a sad world if you can't do that I might add!!

lesliefromstockton-on-tees wrote:

 

Who's bragging? I was asked to try this version for a short while in an attempt to see if it improved my 2.5hrs battery life and it does - all done legit i might add!!

 

I now know I don't have a faulty battery or other issues with my new late 2011 laptop.  Just glad to report that Apple appear to have fixed the issue and that's good news for everyone and its a sad world if you can't do that I might add!!

Well I'm officially keeping out of this one. Unethical, but luckily posted in a thread that has no merit anymore, so good luck if it hits the fan.

Pete

petermac87 wrote:

 

Read the post again, it wasn't mentioned that an Apple Staff member passed it on to her. Read properly before you jump down people's throats.

 

You should know the rules in regards to Developers Copies as a Level 5.

 

Pete

You're the one who accused the OP of 'illegality' something you have yet to back up with anything beyond rhetoric, if the OP is a developer he/she has breached the NDA, which is not illegal. If he/she is not a developer the NDA does not apply, again nothing illegal.

So, what law has the OP broken?

Yawn. Get a life pal.

Pete

You accuse people of illegal actions and then slink away with a yawn .... what a ****

Bye

I have done the latest firmware update and I'm still having the battery life issue. Is this common or am I the only one? Do i have to wait for 10.8?

pala10 wrote:

 

I have done the latest firmware update and I'm still having the battery life issue. Is this common or am I the only one? Do i have to wait for 10.8?

Same situation here. And Mountain Lion is not the solution to the problem affecting Lion.

Reflections after DOWNgrading to SL.

I havn't heard the fan att all during the 6 hours of surfing, writing and music listening since I did the downgrade. I now have 1 hour left.

WIth Lion I had approximately 3-4 hours, computer often blazingly hot and fans runnign alot. With the same tasks and same usage. All other precautions taken. (SMC, PRAM, permissions, etc. etc.)

SL sure rules for me, the new features in Lion isn't worth it.

For me 10.7.3 and the EFI update have fixed matters; if not to 100% of what was before, to 90%+. Before 10.7.3 I was on 3.5 hours of real time working (iWork and Safari and iTunes); now I can do 5 without having to worry, although haven't done a 100% to flat test. As for the battery time indicator, which I know some of you guys hate, it has been pretty accurate through all the troubles and tests. Right this minute it shows 6:23 at 85% and I have seen it slip up to 9:00 when fully charged and doing nothing - seen in SL but not again until now. Battery is one year old in an early 2011 15" standard MBP, 170 cycles, 94% health.

I am glad this is fixed, and I only had the issue for a while as I only update in January. While I never took my MBP into an Apple store I went in to a few to ask the question and I got the same bemused look from all Apple employees, including those that professed to be up to date on all OSX issues. They all seemed shocked at this forum when showed. I do not know whether they are all dirty rotten liars, or the two stores I went in (including the Regent Street, London store) were genuinely in the dark. I suspect the former, sadly.

While off topic, my suspicions that Apple employees are dirty rotten liars first occurred to me when I asked how to use iCloud to sync Mac documents to my iPad - of course you know this is not possible; I did not at the time and was shocked that you could not. When I compared Docs in the Cloud to Dropbox I was told by the OSX expert that he had never used Dropbox so couldn't comment on its features. The rotter.

Great products, but whenever I have asked a question to which the answer is "it doesn't do this" or "it's a bug" I have recieved bemused looks and excuses, but no addmission that anything needs fixing. Same procedure with this battery issue sadly. It's ok to admit when things aren't perfect Apple!

Thanks to all the guys that have spent hours testing and posting their results, particularly the SL/Lion dual booters ruling out hardware faults. This has saved the likes of me an enormous amount of testing that we do not have the time for or, certainly in my case, are not cabable of.

It's a worry that there are still issues for some, but as someone else has mentioned this thread has died a death recently and that probably means that most issues are fixed.

It's also good to get some ML feedback too. I'm off to see if I can find these developer forums of which you speak - are they public? I imagine not. If they are and there are any interesting battery issues coming up I'm sure we'd all appreciate a link.

Thanks again guys for your help on a difficult topic with an uncooperative Apple.

You are not the only one. I had high hopes for the EFI after reading info on several sites, but I see no change. My battery has never said it was higher than 4 hours, and within the space of 5 or 10 minutes it goes up and down dramatically--4 hours, 3, 3.5, 2.5...if you graphed it it would look like a declining EKG. It's the current model, purchased in November, and I've never felt secure running it off the battery because I'd be out of gas in about an hour. This is frustrating in the extreme. I've never been so disappointed with an Apple product (which I love otherwise, but this is a major flaw!).