Michael Empric

Q: Lion - Horrible MacBook Pro Battery Life

After upgrading to Lion, my MacBook Pro battery life has been severly affected. After 1.5 hours of light web browsing, my battery has decreased to 40% from 100% after charging all night.

 

Notes: Spotlight completed indexing the hard drive over night, and the laptop remained plugged in charging. The fans seem to be running normally, not at a higher rate. The backlight is at 50% brightness.

 

Thoughts?

MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.7), 2.4 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 4 GB Ram

Posted on Jul 21, 2011 7:02 AM

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  • by Gamick,

    Gamick Gamick Aug 7, 2011 3:44 AM in response to Michael Empric
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    Aug 7, 2011 3:44 AM in response to Michael Empric

    As early adapter and advisor to others I always want the latest software. There have been issues and bugs before with other upgrades but Lion is the first that made me go back.

    Exept for some glitches caused by left-overs from Lion, most is working well again for me on Snow Leopard. Like I hear others say, this seems a massive update to Lion. Battery lifetime has expanded with more than an hour! The system is running smoother and I see a lot less beach balls. My Macbook Pro is not even a year old so it's not that the issues can be linked to old hardware. I've handled the issues with Safari and iPhoto. I only need to fix Quicktime!!

     

     

    Dyld Error Message:

      Symbol not found: _QTValidateAudioChannelLayout

      Referenced from: /System/Library/QuickTime/QuickTimeComponents.component/Contents/MacOS/QuickTim eComponents

      Expected in: /System/Library/Frameworks/QuickTime.framework/Versions/A/QuickTime

     

  • by Gamick,

    Gamick Gamick Aug 7, 2011 6:20 AM in response to Gamick
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    Aug 7, 2011 6:20 AM in response to Gamick

    Oh, I have the 2,56GHz i5.

    With SnowLeopard I get around 4,5 hours of working time.

    With Lion this was reduced to 3 hours at most.

  • by William Kucharski,

    William Kucharski William Kucharski Aug 7, 2011 11:26 AM in response to shiriajin
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    Aug 7, 2011 11:26 AM in response to shiriajin

    shiriajin wrote:

     

    I am seriously thinking about installing Windows on my MacBook. I decided to quit using Windows because of all the problems they had. But it seems Apple is not that much  better. Going back to Windows will probably be the right choice. Don't you agree?

     

    Uh, no, I don't agree.

     

    If you want to go with Windows and all it entails, feel free, no one's stopping you.

  • by Gamick,

    Gamick Gamick Aug 7, 2011 11:37 AM in response to William Kucharski
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    Aug 7, 2011 11:37 AM in response to William Kucharski

    I agree, you're free to make your own choice. While I think that the current version of Windows is probably the best ever developed bij Microsoft and the current version of OSX is the worst Apple ever did.. still I think that Mac OSX is far superior to any version of Windows.

     

    I just think that Snow Leopard is so far still superior to Lion.

  • by Taipan10,

    Taipan10 Taipan10 Aug 7, 2011 11:49 AM in response to Michael Empric
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    Aug 7, 2011 11:49 AM in response to Michael Empric

    I am asking Apple for a full refund

    for my 12 week old Mac Book Pro.
    It cost £2200 for Flash hard disk etc
    Battery lucky to last 4 hours now
    It gets too hot to concentrate when on my lap
    Gone back to using my £300 Acer
    Lets hove some cash back Apple!

  • by Pokono,

    Pokono Pokono Aug 7, 2011 11:51 AM in response to Trexgroove
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    Aug 7, 2011 11:51 AM in response to Trexgroove

    What the **** are you talking about?

    Microsoft is developing windows for passion?

    HP is building PC for recreation?

     

     

    Anyway have you tried Windows Vista? 600$ OS and actually still working like a ****. I guess you don't know what are you talking about.

    If you search on internet well, we can see that Lion is a bit faster (not too much, just a little).

    I remember that every time windows released a new version of the OS you needed to upgrade your computer, more ram more hd more pray..

    With Apple you can still use your computer, SL increased the performance by 30%, and Lion maintained the performance plus it added a lot of little features around. No big changes, it's true. But.. Safari, Mail, Cal, ecc.. for me it's a big improvements.

    I reveive around 50 mails every day.

     

    And Last point.. OSX is a bit close for a standard use.. they want you to use launchpad for remove application, they hided Library eccecc...

    But this is just for a standard standard user. Wich is even better for the user.

    If you want you can open terminal and check every aspects of every thing.. So it's up to you.

     

    Cazzo!

  • by Gamick,

    Gamick Gamick Aug 7, 2011 12:08 PM in response to Pokono
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    Aug 7, 2011 12:08 PM in response to Pokono

    It doesn't matter what the developer has in mind when developing the system. In the end it is just about your ease of use.

    Lion is a great example that not all users have the same mindset. What you think is great, I consider a failure and maybe the other way around as well.

    Lion is more like Vista than any other OSX. To use Airdrop for example, you need 2 very recent Mac's. To use AFP network protocol, you need brand new NAS, etc..So Apple got a bit closer to Microsoft with Lion.

    If you search Internet you notice that there are as much people complainging about a slower system with Lion. You add that Lion maintained performance. An hour less batterylife can't be called 'maintained performance'.

    I disagree as well with you on "a bit closer to standard use". In my observation standard users don't need an application to open another application. Adding steps to do something can't be considered "ease of use".

  • by William Kucharski,

    William Kucharski William Kucharski Aug 7, 2011 12:18 PM in response to Gamick
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    Aug 7, 2011 12:18 PM in response to Gamick

    Let's see… AFP broke with one vendor's NAS.

     

    Lion is faster on most platforms once you remove third party software that is incompatible because the vendors didn't follow Apple's coding guidelines and tried to "get around" the API.

     

    A feature only works on recent hardware - shocker there.

     

    My 2009 MacBook Pro actually runs an hour or so longer on batttery in Lion as compared to Snow Leopard.

     

    Don't extrapolate your own experience, or even that of people complaining of issues here to the general Lion user population as a whole.

     

    I'm not either, for that matter.

  • by Gamick,

    Gamick Gamick Aug 7, 2011 12:31 PM in response to William Kucharski
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    Aug 7, 2011 12:31 PM in response to William Kucharski

    One vendor's NAS in your mind? I wish you were right and I was wrong!

     

    In the end I don't care who is responisble for issues, Apple or vendors. As a user I just want the stuff to work.

    Your 2009 Macbook Pro might be running an hour longer, but you're the first in a 17-page thread that seems to have this experience where all others have the exact opposite result. Of course it can happen, but as you said; Don't extrapolate your own experience.

     

    Lion can be heaven or **** for you, It is personal.

  • by shiriajin,

    shiriajin shiriajin Aug 7, 2011 12:41 PM in response to Gamick
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    Aug 7, 2011 12:41 PM in response to Gamick

    I totally agree. All people are having this problem. Rolling back to SL is probably the right thing to do now.

  • by Taipan10,

    Taipan10 Taipan10 Aug 7, 2011 1:22 PM in response to Michael Empric
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    Aug 7, 2011 1:22 PM in response to Michael Empric

    I have had some luck
    MBP 17 HD with Flash HDD 3 months old
    My temperatures are down mid 40's
    Battery about 8.4 - 9 .4 from a full charge
    The battery level indicator  reacts far more quickly to useage

     

    I removed some apps
    Silverlight
    Flash for Safari
    Net antivirus
    Garmin
    A few I have forgotten. It works better

  • by calg,

    calg calg Aug 7, 2011 1:26 PM in response to Michael Empric
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    Aug 7, 2011 1:26 PM in response to Michael Empric

    Is apple taking a look at this? It seems like no one tested Lion on the MBP... I have mid 2011 and the battery lasts half of what it used to the computer gets extremely hot....

  • by Pokono,

    Pokono Pokono Aug 7, 2011 1:29 PM in response to calg
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    Aug 7, 2011 1:29 PM in response to calg

    What process are using your CPU?

  • by William Kucharski,

    William Kucharski William Kucharski Aug 7, 2011 1:30 PM in response to calg
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    Aug 7, 2011 1:30 PM in response to calg

    I can assure you it was tested by people with MBPs.

     

    I can't explain the battery issues being seen here as they certainly didn't turn up among other MBP owners I know.

  • by Taipan10,

    Taipan10 Taipan10 Aug 7, 2011 1:33 PM in response to Pokono
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    Aug 7, 2011 1:33 PM in response to Pokono

    Mine wasnt showing anything using cpu
    Not over a few % anyway
    Which was why it was difficult to locate drain

    My battery is still at 9 hrs after using it for 40 mins

    Have a cleanse
    Works wonders
    It supports what previous posters have said about Apple API codes being bypassed

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