Michael Empric

Q: Lion - Horrible MacBook Pro Battery Life

After upgrading to Lion, my MacBook Pro battery life has been severly affected. After 1.5 hours of light web browsing, my battery has decreased to 40% from 100% after charging all night.

 

Notes: Spotlight completed indexing the hard drive over night, and the laptop remained plugged in charging. The fans seem to be running normally, not at a higher rate. The backlight is at 50% brightness.

 

Thoughts?

MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.7), 2.4 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 4 GB Ram

Posted on Jul 21, 2011 7:02 AM

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  • by P. Phillips,

    P. Phillips P. Phillips Aug 18, 2011 6:30 AM in response to joelmcafee
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    Mac OS X
    Aug 18, 2011 6:30 AM in response to joelmcafee

    Thanks Joel. I suspect there are real issues with Lion but things are compounded ( worse ) when upgrading unless the SL is a fresh install and all updates added. I may try and erase and install and see what happens. For sure, will do a clone of existing SL before trying this.

  • by DrChandra,

    DrChandra DrChandra Aug 18, 2011 7:13 AM in response to P. Phillips
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    Aug 18, 2011 7:13 AM in response to P. Phillips

    I was the one who posted that 10.7.1 solved the problem! It's been 24 hours since my post all I can say that we are going to wait more to see again our MBPs (if) having 5-7 hours battery life.

     

    Since I opened the lid a few minutes ago after full charge my battery time was showing 3.30, 5.45 and now 2.30 h of battery time. All in 2-3 minutes. I'm running only Google Chrome with 3 tabs. 10.7.1 does not bring the fix!

     

    Now all my PCs have better battery life than my MPB.

  • by FastTJR,

    FastTJR FastTJR Aug 18, 2011 9:54 AM in response to DrChandra
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    Aug 18, 2011 9:54 AM in response to DrChandra

    @DrChandra

    What happens if you do a reboot? 

  • by doudoucorp,

    doudoucorp doudoucorp Aug 18, 2011 12:07 PM in response to Michael Empric
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    Aug 18, 2011 12:07 PM in response to Michael Empric

    hi,

     

    So like all of you i have this battery problem on my new MBP15 i7 bought in july.

    I went to the apple store (montreal) to look for help . the mac genius there told me it was the first time he heard about that problem. When i told him there was a 30 pages long post on apple forums, he told me that millions of people bought lion and didn't have that problem. so if 1000 people complains on the forums, its not a big deal.

    Anyway he did an hardware check, everything was fine like i suspected. then he reinstalled lion from a clean install using one of their external HDD. He told me that might fix it because a fresh install doesnt have previous files and stuff from SL.

    back home i checked after charging the battery full. the mac lasted exactly 2h40 until i got the warning popup.

    And i was just browsing on chrome and listening to some music.

     

    big fail, same as before !

  • by P. Phillips,

    P. Phillips P. Phillips Aug 18, 2011 12:13 PM in response to doudoucorp
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    Aug 18, 2011 12:13 PM in response to doudoucorp

    Thank for sharing this info. That means I willNot try an erase and install of Lion at this time. The osx is truly buggy. Will stay with SL 10.6.8 or until Apple fixes Lion

  • by RudyfromSATX,

    RudyfromSATX RudyfromSATX Aug 18, 2011 12:40 PM in response to Michael Empric
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    Aug 18, 2011 12:40 PM in response to Michael Empric

    Can I reinstall Snow Leopard without wiping out my files, pics, videos, etc?  My battery life still *****, but I don't want to lose everything I have on my hard drive. 

  • by DrChandra,

    DrChandra DrChandra Aug 18, 2011 1:23 PM in response to FastTJR
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    Aug 18, 2011 1:23 PM in response to FastTJR

    @FastTJR

     

    No changes, I have feeing that it gets even funnier. Time readings are changing every 10 sec from 2.41 to 3.20 to 3.00 and all the time I am on the same page not changing anything.

     

    I've seen this many times in the past with Microsoft and more recently with Google (Android). Apple will try to hush hush until the find a fix, typical corporate shyt. Questions is how long we are going to wait for ths to happen.

     

    @doudoucorp

    Apple store, don't waist your time. Those guys there are just to put the show for the public and to sell more and more.

     

  • by rsil125,

    rsil125 rsil125 Aug 18, 2011 1:26 PM in response to Michael Empric
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    Aug 18, 2011 1:26 PM in response to Michael Empric

    I got my macbook pro with lion when i bought it and playing with photoshop for 2 hours with the graphic card running i still have 2hrs 47min left. is that normal battery life for these machines or is that still on the low side. this is my first macbook pro so i dont know whats good or not

  • by daycor,

    daycor daycor Aug 18, 2011 1:33 PM in response to doudoucorp
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    Aug 18, 2011 1:33 PM in response to doudoucorp

    It seems to be the basic attitude. We appear to be collateral damage.

     

     

     

    doudoucorp wrote:

     

    hi,

     

    So like all of you i have this battery problem on my new MBP15 i7 bought in july.

    I went to the apple store (montreal) to look for help . the mac genius there told me it was the first time he heard about that problem. When i told him there was a 30 pages long post on apple forums, he told me that millions of people bought lion and didn't have that problem. so if 1000 people complains on the forums, its not a big deal.

    Anyway he did an hardware check, everything was fine like i suspected. then he reinstalled lion from a clean install using one of their external HDD. He told me that might fix it because a fresh install doesnt have previous files and stuff from SL.

    back home i checked after charging the battery full. the mac lasted exactly 2h40 until i got the warning popup.

    And i was just browsing on chrome and listening to some music.

     

    big fail, same as before !

  • by DrChandra,

    DrChandra DrChandra Aug 18, 2011 1:36 PM in response to daycor
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    Aug 18, 2011 1:36 PM in response to daycor

    I'll put SL back today to see the difference. I'll post the update. (MBP, 13", i5)

  • by thefromdijon,

    thefromdijon thefromdijon Aug 18, 2011 2:28 PM in response to DrChandra
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    Aug 18, 2011 2:28 PM in response to DrChandra

    I just went back to leo. After a month I got complettly crazy between the heat and the batttery issue.

  • by doudoucorp,

    doudoucorp doudoucorp Aug 18, 2011 2:41 PM in response to thefromdijon
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    Aug 18, 2011 2:41 PM in response to thefromdijon

    how is the battery after you changed? is it back to normal ?

  • by Bazmanian,

    Bazmanian Bazmanian Aug 18, 2011 9:08 PM in response to Michael Empric
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    Aug 18, 2011 9:08 PM in response to Michael Empric

    Not sure yet exactly on how to quantify the actual benefit, but this seems to have resulted in my battery time going from 2.5 - 3.5 hours on full charge to adding what appears to be 2-3 hours... my meter is now fluctuating between 5 to 6 hours instead at a current 94% charge...  and has been acting more like it did when I was running SL...

     

    All I did was this:

     

    1. SMC Reset
    2. Installed http://codykrieger.com/gfxCardStatus and set GPU to Integrated
    3. Installed Fan Control:  http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/23137/fan-control (and set my Thresholds at 115 deg low, 165 deg high, and base 1500 RPM.)
    4. Disabled the Time Machine Mobile Backups via the terminal:  MacBook-Pro:~ $ sudu tmutil disablelocal (Which Incedently gave me back more HD space)
    5. And rebooted...

     

    I'd like to see if anyone else has any success with this, or is it my imagination playing tricks on me?

  • by DrChandra,

    DrChandra DrChandra Aug 18, 2011 9:54 PM in response to Bazmanian
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    Aug 18, 2011 9:54 PM in response to Bazmanian

    Use it for a day or two and let us know.

     

    I just installed SL and Applications pack. At the moment one download is in progress (updates), battery is fully charged and battery reading says: 7:24 (brightness 1/3) MBP i5core, 13"

     

    Lion (Vista) need more polishing.

  • by CordovaBay,

    CordovaBay CordovaBay Aug 18, 2011 10:26 PM in response to Michael Empric
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    Aug 18, 2011 10:26 PM in response to Michael Empric

    MacBook Pro 17" - i7 w/8GB - Spring 2010

    MacBook Pro 17" - i7 w/8GB - Spring 2011

    Hardware Overview:

     

      Model Name:          MacBook Pro

      Model Identifier:          MacBookPro8,3

      Processor Name:          Intel Core i7

      Processor Speed:          2.2 GHz

      Number of Processors:          1

      Total Number of Cores:          4

      L2 Cache (per Core):          256 KB

      L3 Cache:          6 MB

      Memory:          8 GB

      Boot ROM Version:          MBP81.0047.B0E

      SMC Version (system):          1.70f3

      Serial Number (system):          C02XXXXXXDF93

      Hardware UUID:          XXXXXXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXXF-XXXXXXXXXXXX

      Sudden Motion Sensor:

      State:          Enabled

    Hardware Overview:

     

      Model Name:          MacBook Pro

      Model Identifier:          MacBookPro6,1

      Processor Name:          Intel Core i7

      Processor Speed:          2.66 GHz

      Number of Processors:          1

      Total Number of Cores:          2

      L2 Cache (per Core):          256 KB

      L3 Cache:          4 MB

      Memory:          8 GB

      Processor Interconnect Speed:          4.8 GT/s

      Boot ROM Version:          MBP61.0057.B0C

      SMC Version (system):          1.57f16

      Serial Number (system):          C02XXXXXXC7C

      Hardware UUID:          XXXXXXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXXF-XXXXXXXXXXXX

      Sudden Motion Sensor:

      State:          Enabled

    Battery Information:

     

    Model Information:

      Serial Number:          C0110730YKWDGKMAJ

      Manufacturer:          DP

      Device Name:          bq20z451

      Pack Lot Code:          0

      PCB Lot Code:          0

      Firmware Version:          406

      Hardware Revision:          1

      Cell Revision:          1102

      Charge Information:

      Charge Remaining (mAh):          8173 <======

      Fully Charged:          Yes

      Charging:          No

      Full Charge Capacity (mAh):          8444 <======

      Health Information:

      Cycle Count:          9

      Condition:          Normal

      Battery Installed:          Yes

      Amperage (mA):          -1738

      Voltage (mV):          12209

    Battery Information:

     

      Model Information:

      Serial Number:          9G0100B17DN5A

      Manufacturer:          DP

      Device Name:          bq20z951

      Pack Lot Code:          0

      PCB Lot Code:          0

      Firmware Version:          301

      Hardware Revision:          1

      Cell Revision:          119

      Charge Information:

      Charge Remaining (mAh):          13031 <======

      Fully Charged:          Yes

      Charging:          No

      Full Charge Capacity (mAh):          13031 <======

      Health Information:

      Cycle Count:          23

      Condition:          Normal

      Battery Installed:          Yes

      Amperage (mA):          0

      Voltage (mV):          8320

     

    I am not sure if this cut and paste will work. If it does, take at look at the 2010 MBP battery charge (<=====) vs the 2011 MBP battery charge (<=====). Very interesting that the 2011 version's battery appears to hold less charge than the previous model. I might be mis-understanding this, but it seems like there is a problem here. Both systems are running OSX 10.7 (the new system is 10.7.1 while the older model if 10.7.2).

     

    The new MBP shows a full charge capacity of 8,444 mAh while the older MBP shows its full charge capacity as 13,031 mAh!!  That's a big difference even using the new math.

     

    Look deeper and the Voltage numbers look totally different as well. It is probably only a coincidence but the Voltage numbers look sort of interesting as they could be considered within the number range of the other system's Capacity. Also note how the older MBP has a charge remaining that equals the full charge while the newer MBP has only 97% of the full charge remaining.

     

    Of course there is always the case where these numbers are totally meaningly just to look good/interesting.

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