Vance Jackson

Q: Unable to search network drives with Lion...

After installing Lion, I have found I am unable to search network drives (Windows network) like I used with Snow Leopard. Any suggestions?

iMac, Mac OS X (10.7)

Posted on Jul 21, 2011 8:01 AM

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  • by tbhatch,

    tbhatch tbhatch Jan 17, 2012 9:02 AM in response to Vance Jackson
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    Jan 17, 2012 9:02 AM in response to Vance Jackson

    A free program called iFileX will search network drives.

     

    You can download it here: http://www.osxbytes.com/page3/index.html

  • by bosconero,

    bosconero bosconero Jan 17, 2012 9:50 AM in response to L P
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    Jan 17, 2012 9:50 AM in response to L P

    That's a release note by apple for developers and i really hope this fix is related to smb network search but it's so generic explained...

    Maybe some developer could tell something about this!

    keep all fingers crossed!

  • by Gregory_,

    Gregory_ Gregory_ Feb 1, 2012 9:23 PM in response to bosconero
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    Feb 1, 2012 9:23 PM in response to bosconero

    Just tried it on 10.7.3...still a no go.

  • by hschneider,

    hschneider hschneider Feb 1, 2012 11:15 PM in response to Gregory_
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    Feb 1, 2012 11:15 PM in response to Gregory_

    Yes, no search possible on SMB drives and even on 3rd party AFP connected drives (QNAP).

    This is really disappointing.

     

     

     

    -- Harald

  • by bosconero,

    bosconero bosconero Feb 1, 2012 11:35 PM in response to hschneider
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    Feb 1, 2012 11:35 PM in response to hschneider

    Well, i guess this thread can be deleted at this time...

    AFTER THREE LION UPDATES it's clear that Apple does not intend to fix this issue!

    Maybe it's not Apple' fault (like i heard about the new smb license) but my Mac it's the only machine that is excluded from files search in ALL "non Apple" based network!

    Very disappointed, maybe i should reinstall my fully funcional Leopard...

  • by _strauch_,

    _strauch_ _strauch_ Feb 2, 2012 12:06 AM in response to bosconero
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    Feb 2, 2012 12:06 AM in response to bosconero

    Like i wrote in this Thread: https://discussions.apple.com/message/16870672#16870672 it is possible to search with the terminal. So the functionallity exists. It is only impossible to search with the finder. I'm sad that apple don't show any reaction to this thread.

  • by bosconero,

    bosconero bosconero Feb 2, 2012 12:27 AM in response to _strauch_
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    Feb 2, 2012 12:27 AM in response to _strauch_

    Yes it exists!

    Another proof is that spotlight works well if I search a file in the FIRST LEVEL FOLDER (only files not if search a folder). It doesn't work only in sub-folders!

    Really, i don't understand why Apple don't fix this after SEVEN months and THREE major Lion's update.

  • by hschneider,

    hschneider hschneider Feb 2, 2012 12:33 AM in response to bosconero
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    Feb 2, 2012 12:33 AM in response to bosconero

    From a programmer's view:

     

    There is no need to handle any SMB API.

     

    Finder can display a network drive's folder. It knows the files, it can traverse the whole directory tree and write file contents to the Spotlight index database. Even without indexing search would be slow but possible.

    So this cannot be a licensing issue, IT IS JUST A BUG and no one cares.

     

     

     

     

    -- Harald

  • by macobs30,

    macobs30 macobs30 Feb 2, 2012 12:38 AM in response to _strauch_
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    Feb 2, 2012 12:38 AM in response to _strauch_

    Same here,  SMB drives are not included in the Spotlight index. Finder cannot search my smb drives, either. This is because Finder is using the Spotlight index.

     

    Any other search program or Terminal find search on-demand or make their own index file.  Thus the problem remains:  Spotlight does not include SMB directories, drives, etc. AND Apple keeps blaming the other SMB versions. 

  • by bosconero,

    bosconero bosconero Feb 2, 2012 12:39 AM in response to hschneider
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    Feb 2, 2012 12:39 AM in response to hschneider

    My question to a programmer: it's possible to run spotlight in debug mode?

    I really want to know why it doesn't work at this time!

  • by _strauch_,

    _strauch_ _strauch_ Feb 2, 2012 12:57 AM in response to tbhatch
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    Feb 2, 2012 12:57 AM in response to tbhatch

    Thanks tbhatch for the link, i use this programm and it works fine.

  • by hschneider,

    hschneider hschneider Feb 2, 2012 1:01 AM in response to bosconero
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    Feb 2, 2012 1:01 AM in response to bosconero

    @bosconero: No debug mode. You can include an external drive into spotlight index with

     

    sudo mdutil -i on /Volumes/volume_name

     

    Calling the volume status with

     

    sudo mdutil -s /Volumes/volume_name

     

    reports indexing is ON. But it definitely does nothing.

     

     

     

     

     

    -- Harald

  • by bosconero,

    bosconero bosconero Feb 2, 2012 1:16 AM in response to hschneider
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    Feb 2, 2012 1:16 AM in response to hschneider

    thx hschneider!

    Maybe we will find the solution in the next OSX 10.8 code name DONKEY!

     

    Last question: do you know what means "Address compatibility issues with Windows file sharing" as reported in lion 10.7.3 developer release?

  • by chaoskcw,

    chaoskcw chaoskcw Feb 2, 2012 7:05 AM in response to hschneider
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    Feb 2, 2012 7:05 AM in response to hschneider

    Yes everyone keeps talking about the SMB and "licensing" of gpl3 but apple broke this for AFP too! Ala QNAP etc... Completly unacceptable. And the lack of response even more so.

  • by rmcmahan0348,

    rmcmahan0348 rmcmahan0348 Feb 2, 2012 9:40 AM in response to Gregory_
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    Feb 2, 2012 9:40 AM in response to Gregory_

    Something is happening with spotlight/search in 10.7.3. I can actually search some directories (could search nothing before), but not all of them (all directories on the same server). And on those it does search, it will search multiple (all?) levels down into the directory, not just the top/root level as someone has said previously.

     

    I do have read/write access priveledges to the directories so that is not the issue. In fact, I can search/access directories set up for other departments (for which I have access priveledges) but not the directory that contains my own (or anyone else's) user folder (even those for which I do have access priveledges). So, it seems there is an improvement and maybe it is just a setting for the individual server directories.

     

    One other thing that is strange, is that although (from within an application), even though the Open dialog box is set to display "All Readable Files", it shows many files but many are grayed out, and I can actually click to select some of the grayed out files but not all of them. Also, within the application (Illustrator), I can not change the sort settings when clicking on the column headers.

     

    I am hopeful as our IT guy investigates.

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