Q: Unable to search network drives with Lion...

I was going to say the same thing about the threat. I was going to say "let me know how that works out for you..you'll be back".

Why can't people just switch to APF? I don't know much about it but with the zextreme or whatever it's called, it works fine. In my company, we did what apple wanted and patched our server to solve the problem, not edit the OS.

Why people cannot switch to AFP? Well, try to imagine that you work in an organization that has couple of thousands employees and the company network is build on Windows. Then there is a bunch of guys who are using Mac. Who do you think is forced to adapt? What do you think the IT department tells you if you ask them to setup AFP for you on the servers? :-D

No matter if AFP or SMB (CIFS). Searching network volumes fails on both since OSX Lion.

Searching AFP only works among Macs.

-- Harald

I was under the impression we had a windows server with z-extreme on it do the macs could access it. I am sure we have a windows server because we were told our file naming cannot contain spaces or periods, like it could before we moved and were on a Mac server.

Sorry I do not know much aboiut the different protocols, just that it works with lion now after a patch and switching back to AFP, which didn't work before.

Mojo66...could you give some details on what would be in this "book" about things that don't work in Windows? I laugh at Mac fanboys that act like their favorite OS's crap doesn't stink. My main home desktop is a Windows 7 machine and it's extremely reliable and I can't think of a single thing that doesn't work.

I had the same problem. The problem was that OS X Lion is to modern for your driver, I bought a new driver. And now everything is fine.

could people please stop posting in this thread SO SUPRIRSED by this issue like its new information & please stop the ******* contests between operating systems. Good grief, every system has its flaws. Everyone is gonna like what THEY like & putting your opinion out there isn't gonna change someone elses.

And for what its worth, apple claims to only have ONE reported case of this (two if they count mine) they were of NO HELP whatsoever & could do nothing to make it work - this was after very long & multiple phone calls with their "enterprise level" support - both parties are at "fault" windows & mac. It'll be ok, we'll survive. i promise.

OK, that means that we have to report it more! However, I wrote to their feedback (http://www.apple.com/feedback/macosx.html) already long time ago about this issue.

Not only that it does not work with SMB shares, it does not work with NTFS drives neither. I was discussing this with Paragon who wrote the NTFS driver that I use and they have no solution! Am I really the only one who is using NTFS disks under Mac and cannot search them??

My conclusion is that Apple has all these complaints on SMB share on NTFS drive and they cannot find them anymore :-D

side note: our company bought into JointVenture in hopes of getting some REAL support on these types of issues. We were connected with a "genius" who had not a clue in the world. i dont even know if was aware that he worked for apple. THEN we were sent to "enterprise level" support - they KNEW they worked there, they just had never heard of such (besides the one other reported case) - later they said we should have been charged $695 for the enterprise call - to which i said, um, why? we already paid $500 for support that was subpar & now you want nearly $700 for still no solution??? i must be missing something, seems like you shouldn't pay for a service that deosnt SERVE YOU IN ANY WAY. THen a local rep from our apple store got involved & reutnred our JointVenture $500. still using the EasyFind squirell app - it does the job - albeit slower than what i'd prefer but in the meantime IT'LL BE OK.

Gregory_ wrote:

 

Mojo66...could you give some details on what would be in this "book" about things that don't work in Windows?

Sure. Recently I switched from a german to a US keyboard layout. On OS X everything went smoothly. Then I booted into my Windows 7 Bootcamp partition, added the new layout and removed the old one. So far everything went fine. But I must have done something wrong because the next time I booted into Windows, I couldn't enter my password anymore. The cursor keys and the Return would still work, but no other keys were accepted. The mouse was also working. So I thought well use that fancy new on-screen keyboard. But when I click to start the thing, I received a message "Unspecified error". I tried to connect the old keyboard and several other keyboards I had laying around but nothing worked. So I had to boot from the installation DVD, and use the registry editor to disable the login screen to get into Windows again. Since the mouse was still working, I thought the safest thing would be to use the System Restore feature to go back to the point before I made the keyboard layout changes. But when I tried to do so, Windows did some work for 5 minutes, displayed some fancy progress bar, but ended up with another "Unspecified error" and no restore. This is a vanilla WIndows 7 install that I only used for playing Skyrim and some other games. No fancy drivers or tweaks or anything, just an out-of-the box install. It doesn't make sense to offer features that don't work, right?

Linux isn't any better. Recently I tried to burn a 4 Gig file on a DVD. But it wouldn't work. I tried half a dozen different programs, but they either crashed or produced coasters. Until I found out what the problem was. Although there a numerous programs out there, all of them expect to write an intermediate image into /tmp. Problem was: I didn't have 4 Gigs of free space on /tmp. I had 500 Gigs free on my user directory but while all of those brilliant programmers out there had their focus on creating the 27th incarnation of a DVD burning program on Linux, they were all basically just creating new fancy frontends to the same command-line program. Amongst the dozens of DVD burning software, there was not one that was able to burn data on the fly. All programs were creating an intermediate image file in /tmp. If that failed, they either crashed or burned as much as they could, producing a coaster.

I don't need the coice between 20 different programs to do a given task. I just need one good one that works. And most often, that happens on OS X.

Sorry for the totally off-topic rant.

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All the problems you described can easily be fixed with some research.

This "search" problem (a search function is an ESSENTIAL part of any OS it's unbelievable that such an important function isn't working) can't be fixed by a normal user.

I'm forced to abandon Lion because of this.

Mojo66 - You describe your Windows 7 install is "vanilla" with "no fancy drivers or tweaks" and "just an out-of-the box" install when in actuality, your install is anything but that. You're running Windows with BOOTCAMP on a Mac. You're going to run into minor problems like that. Every driver you're using is most likely developed by Apple to work on their hardware. Just for fun I changed my keyboard layout to German and back to US on a true Windows machine and it worked without a hitch. This one problem you're having on a BOOTCAMP environment is hardly a "book of problems".

As for Linux, I couldn't care less about that. LOL

They are inexcusable for this issue. They are the largest tech company in the world and the "world's most advanced os" cannot support searching on a networked drive? This is something that we would allow for from apple circa 2003 not circa 2012.

And they are mocking us with a new os that has a notepad and reminders app? What are we? 13 year olds (no offence to 13 year olds btw) who just got our first ipod?

They have money in the bank enough to buy a few countries in the world and we can't get to search on a local network? (forget natively supporting ntfs usb drives, or at least bothering not to break compatibility with add ons that support this with lion...)

Had Jobs been well in the last two years of his life he'd have fired half of the os x team, and it would serve them right.

My ultimatum is 10.7.5. I am not going to be playing around after this, I 'll keep a couple of macs for sentimental reasons, and every new mac is getting a competing os to overwrite os x. I am also going to speak the worst about apple to anyone who's willing to hear, much as I spoke the best about them all this time.

No they just want you to use an APPLE server.

It just like a company that makes a razor. They are going to make it hard to use any other brand of razor blades in that razor besides theirs.

Nothing wrong with that.

Seriously  I know it's a pain but there are work arounds. I wish all the apple users who are whining WOULD just leave. Inexcusable this...they won't fix it I am doing that ....

Go. Just go

They have a plan. It's not your plan. It's not the way YOU would make a plan...so you whine. Just try to see what they are invisioning. It really makes good business sense.

I am one of those businesses. I use a Mac in my litigation practice but the network server is Windows 7. As of my Lion "upgrade," I can no longer search for documents on the server. It is absolutely maddening and a giant waste of time now - and one I can't afford since I bill by the hour and can't justify wasting time on this kind of flaw. I have multiple versions of a great variety of legal documents for each case, and now Spotlight searches have been ruined. My co-workers tell me it's time to dump the Mac and switch to Windows. What a joke.