OS X 10.7 Lion - Slow to boot, run, launch Safari etc. etc.

I have serious regrets about installing Lion. If I thought I could go back to Snow Leopard without any risk of losing all my data, I would do it immediately.


After installing, there was a seriosly long boot up. I thought nothing of this as it is not uncommon after an OS upgrade. But then I tried to launch Mail only to find that it tried to import my accounts only to crash. After several attempts I used the new Mail Contacts & Calendars preference pane to delete all the account information. I relaunched Mail successfully and then imported the accounts via the File menu. Everything was acomplete mess and it took a few hours to sort all the mail into the correct mailboxes and folders. The rules I had set up were ineffective and foldershad been created all over the place. Not a good start.


I then discovered that I could no longer connect to my Time Machine volume on my ReadyNAS Duo because the version of AFP is no longer supported.


Having played around for a while and noticed lots of little annoyances - like bits of screensaver images breaking through as a video goes from a window to full screen, I though maybe I should reboot.


Not so long ago, I timed how long it would take to boot up in Snow Leopard to the login screen in terms of gearwheel spins - it used to take 19 spins, then for some reason it went up to 58. I managed to reduce it to 30 by carrying out a number of proceedures, exactly which I forget now.


Under Lion, it took 185 spins of the gearwheel to reach the login screen and seemed to take forever after that. I figured out how to prevent windows from being restored in the General preference pane and deselected the resore windows option when I rebooted. I repaired permissions, zapped the PRAM etc. etc. and decided to time startup wityh my iPhone stopwatch, as follows:


Start: 00.00

Chime: 00.02

Apple: 00.14

Apple + Geerwheel: 00.19

Login screen: 01.38

Desktop: 02.20 (allowing about ten seconds to click my account and enter password).

Mail (startup item): 02.54

Safari (launched manually when Mail was complete at 02.54): 04.40 stopped bouncing in Dock. No running indicator in Dock and could not be launched by clicking in Dock - needed to be forced to quit.


On relaunch, Safari took over two minutes to launch, then was unresponsive for a further two minutes. Pages did not load then partially loaded before stopping again. It was probably about six or seven minutes before I was able to load a page fully.


I am experiencing a lot of SBoDs doing the simplest thing, like opening folders, and I generally get the feeling that something is amiss. As I said at the start, I wish I had stuck with Snow Leopard. I think that Lion is an over hyped widget environment which does nothing worth the hassle it has caused and continues to cause.

MacBook Pro 17' 2.66GHz, Mac OS X (10.7), 8GB RAM, 500GB HD

Posted on Jul 21, 2011 9:01 AM

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Jul 21, 2011 9:27 AM in response to Alf Megson

Hi Ian


Not as many problems as you although i never realised that a lot of programs would not run in Lion.


However since installing my MBP is running so slow!!!! almost every app is affected but the worst affected are Safari and Mail as well.


Since owning the MBP i have not had anything worth complaining about including software side but this latest upgrade seems to be causing havoc.


I too wish it could be downgraded, at least until all the bugs have been sorted. Very reminiscent of windows upgrades this one!!!


Not happy at all.

Jul 21, 2011 9:32 AM in response to TSG

Is spotlight indexing still running on your machine?

Click in the Spotlight icon in the upper right of the screen, what does it say.

If it is still indexing then this will slow your machine.


Lion should be faster than your previous OS, not slower.


If indexing has stopped and it is still slow, try Repair Permissions


http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1452


And then a restart.

Jul 21, 2011 9:43 AM in response to Alf Megson

I mentioned that I lost text due to pages reloading randomly. Well, when I was typing the post originally, it mentioned that Spotlight had already completed its indexing and that I had forced it to re-index by removing and replacing my boot volume from the Privacy list.


I don't have any real backup options as I cannot connect to my Time Machine volume - so I am very reluctant to attempt to re-install Lion at the moment.

Jul 21, 2011 1:00 PM in response to Sebastian Holmqvist

Spotlight suddenly started indexing again. It had the striped progress bar for quite a long time then stated that the 'Estimated indexing time' was 3 days. I waited for half an hour and it still said three days and there was not even a visible pixel of hope in the progress bar.


Out of sheer frustration, I bit the bullet and re-installed Lion. It went through the same kind of process as described earlier, except for the Mail fiasco, i.e. the Spotlight indexing etc. Safari still would not launch without a very long delay - I don't know how long because I had an unexpected visitor and had to leave it.


When I came back, everything seemed to have settled down so I decided to try rebooting to see if there was any improvement. If there is, it is hardly measurable and Spotlight is again indexing - this time for about 20 minutes with the striped progress bar and is now reporting 'About 4 hours remaining'.


I've read elsewhere that some Lion users are having Spotlight indexing every restart or every other restart. Frankly, if this is the case it has to be a problem with Lion which needs addressing tout de suite.

Jul 22, 2011 2:20 AM in response to Alf Megson

Appologies Alf,


Just realised i may be accussed of hijacking your initial post. I think we are both suffering from very similar if not the same issues.

My MBP seems to have improved slightly but still seems slower than with SL.

By the time the advice came to see if indexing was still going on it seems mine must have completed as no indication of it continuing was seen. However, i can still hear the HDD accessing a lot more than it used to even when i am not running anything that would warrant access or writting as far as i know!!!

At the moment Safari and Mail seem to be the most adversly affected but there are a lot of programs to run since the upgrade to confirm how they will react !!!!


Hope you get yours sorted soon. ( and tell me how you did it 😁 ).


I might also try Sebastian's suggestion to temporarily disable spotlight indexing and see if that makes a difference ).


Best Rgds

Kev

Jul 22, 2011 8:17 AM in response to TSG

I can just about deal with the slow boot up if I leave the room for 15 minutes, just coming back to enter my password.


But I'm getting MIGHTY hacked off (polite version) with Safari suddenly refressing pages when I have been entering text causing me to lose everything. This is seriously DUFF! A pro forma alert window (which I never saw before Lion) comes up which somebody must have composed indicating that this is a behaviour expected under certain circumstances - those circumstances being, I suspect, some new feature built into Safari, chief suspect; Safari's new restore feature.


To be honest, Apple, the whole concept of restoring applications and pages is not something I have ever wished for and find EXTREMELY irritating. I close a window when I want it closed. I quit an application when I want it quit. If you insist on having this little parlour trick embedded in the OS, please supply one [EXPLETIVE] BIG button to switch the [EXPLETIVE] feature OFF. I don't expect to have to go hunting through preferences to find it only to find that there are little buttons hidden all over the place and that every time I reboot, I have to remember to deselect the 'fancy little useless trick we are going to make you laboriously watch yet again' button. LET US CHOOSE THE DEFAULT!


As my avatar may hint, I have been a Mac user for a long time, 26 years, I would never consider using any other computers. The times in my life when I have been forced to use Windows machines have scarred me. But the last couple of years I have become more and more disillusioned with the Apple dogma, both in terms of Macs and iPhones. Hopefully, things will improve but I can foresee a time when I have to consider life without.

Jul 22, 2011 8:25 AM in response to Alf Megson

On the Indexing issue:


I was doing a backup using SuperDuper! to a drive with three partitions. Really ran slowly.


I discovered that Spotlight was indexing all three partitions -- totalling to one Terabyte!


So I looked into this and was able to do SystPrefs > Spotlight and specify those drives as "Privacy" items, which stops the indexing.


Phil

Jul 22, 2011 8:49 AM in response to Alf Megson

Something is obviously not working for you. On the restore note, you can turn that off completely in System settings -> General -> Uncheck 'Restore windows when quitting and re-opening apps'


I would suggest you enable you AFP-drive, backup your user, re-install Lion with a clean disk and then restore your user form the backup. You might be able to enable you AFP-drive with this hack http://www.alexanderwilde.com/2011/04/os-x-lion-connection-error-with-afp-and-wo rkaround/

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