Chinese YiTien keyboard layout seems to be taken out from Lion. If not, where is it?

I am used to type Chinese characters using the YiTien keyboard layout under SnowLeopard, but after I upgraded to Lion, the layout is no longer available. There is only layout option left for Zuyin input. Am I missing the configuration page? Can someone in Apple OS team put this layout back?

Mac OS X (10.7)

Posted on Jul 21, 2011 10:06 AM

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Jul 21, 2011 10:27 AM in response to jiming

jiming wrote:


I am used to type Chinese characters using the YiTien keyboard layout under SnowLeopard, but after I upgraded to Lion, the layout is no longer available. There is only layout option left for Zuyin input.


Here is some info on changes in Lion:


http://www.yale.edu/chinesemac/pages/osx7.html


Perhaps there are other IM's that have what you want:


http://www.yale.edu/chinesemac/pages/input_methods.html#other

Aug 20, 2011 3:34 PM in response to jiming

This is absolutely absurd!


It's like saying I've been using QWERTY all my life, and now I have to learn how to use dvroak after a software upgrade because someone decided it was not important to include qwerty in the update.


I don't even know how to type in dvorak!!!


And I don't know how to input Chinese in any other way beside YiTian.


Telling me to go learn another input method is like me telling somone to learn to use dvorak because qwerty stoped working.

Aug 21, 2011 8:29 AM in response to David510C

David510C wrote:


And I don't know how to input Chinese in any other way beside YiTian.




Could you answer a couple questions for me? Is the YiTian IM just a different allocation of standard bopomofo symbols among the keys? Or does it use some different symbols? Or does it have different mappings between the sequences of symbols and the hanzi? (I've have Googled but not found any good info on this so far).

Aug 21, 2011 6:08 PM in response to Tom Gewecke

Yes. YiTian is a keyboard layout to input Chinese. You're right in saying "it's a different allocation of standard bopomofo symbols among the keys."


For someone like me, who has learned bopomofo phanetically as a kid, but grew up in the US learning how to type using the QWERTY keyborrd. It makes a lot of sense for me to use YiTian as an input method.


In standard bobomofo layout, ㄅ(bo), ㄆ(po), ㄇ (mo), ㄈ(fo) are 1, Q, A, Z keys respectively. This is like saying you'd have use 1, Q, A, Z key to type ABCD, and 2, W, S, X keys to type EFGH, etc.


It makes no sense. Since we all grew up learning the QWERTY keyboard layout. You wouldn't want to relearn how to type if keys are layed out as ABCD, EFGH, IJK...


What makes YiTien layout work is that B key = Bo, P key = Po, M key = Mo, and F key = Fo. If you already know how to type QWERTY, you can pick up YiTian in no time.


That is why it is absurd that YiTian layout completly dissapeared from 10.7. How else am I suppose to type? I don't want to learn a new keyboard layout all over again if I can avoid it. If I got that time, I'd go learn a new music instrument or something.

Aug 21, 2011 6:55 PM in response to Tom Gewecke

David is completely right. YiTien was taken out for no good reason. It is, after all, just a different keyboard mapping for the ZhuYin input, which is still supported in 10.7 (Lion), and I don't believe that it is harder to support once you have supported at least one other keyboard mapping already. I worked for Apple before, and I submitted a bug to fix a problem related to YiTien when I was there, and it was fixed in a later version of SnowLeopard. I cannot believe that this feature needed to be dropped from Lion after all the investment to perfect the input method. The BoPoMoFo method is what everyone learned growing up if ZhuYin input is taught, and YiTien provides a logical mapping from B, P, M, F to the pronounciation of Bo, Po, Mo, Fo, If you need to drop anything, it should be something else, not the YiTien method.

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