Q: Disable autosave

here's another time-wasting thing about Autosave:

You can no longer use "save as" and have Default Folder save a renamed version of your open file to somewhere else. In fact Default Folder has now become useless. Until now, it was one of my most-used add-ons. 

Now, to accomplish the same thing, I have to highlight the filename, duplicate the file, change the name of the duplicated file to whatever I want, and then physically move that file to the folder where I want it to be.

This is seriously wrecking the way the MacOS works. If I was in Apple's developer office right now I'd be walking along the rows of workstations smacking everybody on the back of the head.

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Actually, after Leopard & especially Snow Leopard, which was around the same price if I recall, I expected considerably more from a new Apple OS! I at least expected more thought to have gone into its implementation!

I'd also rather have paid twice that for a Lion that respects my intelligence as a user by giving me control over my system by letting me switch off functions I don't want to use (Autosave & Versions switched off separately please and as Eddy K said, have Restore off by default, on by choice), and one which actually improved on existing functionality - Stefano67's comment about Missing Control is spot on!

I've gone back to the very welcome civilisation of Snow Leopard now, both in order to get some work done and to wait and see if Apple will listen and turn Lion into an obedient cat.

Well, even Microsoft confirmed that Office is about to be updated with the Autosave function, so don't expect too much from Apple to let you decide whether to turn it on or off...

Don't forget, Apple does not care at all about professional users anymore, they target the average user who needs basic features, and therefore a basic OS.

But anyway, if you really need to get work done, and want a fully customisable OS, there is Windows, with thousands of features that OS X does not offer.

Like most applications since way back, MSOffice has always had its own inbuilt Autosave function that you can configure any way you want it. Apple's autosave is not only counter-productive; it is also completely unnecessary.

Altazon wrote:

 

But anyway, if you really need to get work done, and want a fully customisable OS, there is Windows, with thousands of features that OS X does not offer.

Actually I and many others from the coding side are on a different train here, they usually like workstations which run on unix thanks to the toolchain and the non locking filesystem nature. Either way, there were lots of people who code who went for macs coming from Linux the last 5-6 years. So at least in my perspective, if  OSX becomes a burden (for now I can live with it since all my tools do not use Autosave and probably never will be), I always can go back to Linux. Btw. Windows also will take a turn to the worse. Have you seen the initial screenshots of Windows 8, horrible, they also try to shoehorn their tiles interface on top of everything.

Yes, but this time Microsoft will implement Apple's Autosave, not Microsoft autosave.

Will we be able to disable it ? I doubt it for some reason...

Well, your case is very specific, so indeed whether Windows, Linux or OS X does not really matter to you as you use very specific tools.

I'm not saying one OS is better than the other, cause they are both great in their own way, but OS X is clearly becoming a system easy to use for the average user, while Windows still offers all the features a professional or power user can expect from an OS.

Windows 8 will indeed have tiles for tablets or phones, but you will still be able to go back to the "normal" interface. Windows will never leave behind professionals, there is no company out there that can offer a longer support than Microsoft.

So OS X for your personal use, Windows for work. (in most scenarios).

Well, even Microsoft confirmed that Office is about to be updated with the Autosave function, so don't expect too much from Apple to let you decide whether to turn it on or off...

Just to be clear (and based on my understanding), that is Microsoft Office for Mac 2011 - not the MS Office that runs on MS machines. And as stated by Tom in London:

"Like most applications since way back, MSOffice has always had its own inbuilt Autosave function that you can configure any way you want it. Apple's autosave is not only counter-productive; it is also completely unnecessary."

My solution to the problem was:

1) Provide Apple with feedback

2) Revert to to SL

3) Not participate in the Apple development program any further and  not purchase any other apple or app store products

4) Go back to MS as primary system

5) Tell everyone who does not believe the movie "Idiocracy" is yet a documentary that Apple is is not where they wan to place hard earned money - especially in tough economic times.

OS X Office will stick to the way Office works on Windows. I'm pretty sure MS will add support for autosave but not *fully* rely on it.

Altazon wrote:

 

Yes, but this time Microsoft will implement Apple's Autosave, not Microsoft autosave.

 

Will we be able to disable it ? I doubt it for some reason...

Disable autosave shouldn't be that difficult, so I think there is a good chance they will add that switch. Otherwise I hope there will soon be some third party app around.

Tom in London wrote:

Apple's autosave is not only counter-productive; it is also completely unnecessary.

It's certainly why, in Pages dedicated forum, there is no week without a thread starting with :

"Oh my god, for this or that reason my app quitted and I didn't saved two hours of works. How may I retrieve the typed text ?"

Yvan KOENIG (VALLAURIS, France) vendredi 5 août 2011 13:01:01

iMac 21”5, i7, 2.8 GHz, 4 Gbytes, 1 Tbytes, mac OS X 10.6.8 and 10.7.0

My iDisk is : <http://public.me.com/koenigyvan>

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To be the AW6 successor, iWork MUST integrate a TRUE DB, not a list organizer !

I think that analysis is fair and accurate. I am so glad u pointed out the hourly + on demand point. The only thing I would add is that something is better than nothing, and I am hoping Apple can improve given the limitations of HFS+. Cheers  

Hi Tom - check box when you select Restart. I keep clicking it, over and over and over again but each time it returns in it's previous state. Just will not behave or obey me. The OS just doesn't give a you-know-what for what I want, it's going to do things it's way, period. I have always disliked Windows because of this attitude. Infuriating, frankly.

We've seen how auto-save eats storage space. It's well optimized I think... but it still absolutely requires additional space that previously went undemanded.

I am having a hard time imagining how much drive space will be consumed after I spend a year and half on a laptop, writing 60 to 90 50-60 page proposals every month. Sometimes, 30-40 changes a day per document. I'm not sure if anybody makes a small form factor drive that large.

I believe auto-save, versions & iCloud are all integral parts of the same strategic revenue plan.

I don't think Apple will consider disabling a built-in function that can drive it's user base to larger iCloud revenue. Thanks to auto-save, we're all going to require more storage space than we've ever needed before, and guess who will be there to offer it to us?