Dual monitors and fullscreen fiasco, is there a work around?

CT wrote:

Please Apple, DON'T listen to them! Don't "fix" it! Leave it be!

Why on earth would you suggest that forced disabling of secondary displays -- with no way of enabling them -- is a Good Thing? If this is some myopic "Apple knows best" thinking, I've got news for you: Apple doesn't.

OS X has wonderful multitasking performance capacity. By shifting the UI to focus on a single-app paradigm, the functional potential of the operating system (and, ergo, its user) is greatly diminished. A wake to mourn the loss of this functionality will be held at the church on Sunday. Lattes will be served and free WiFi available.

Edited to mourn the loss of my proofreading skills. 😝

It's because he or she is an obvious troll, that's why they would suggest it and post something meaningless ^_~

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So, anyone with a different opinion than you is a troll, or just CT?

NiqueXyZ wrote:

It's because he or she is an obvious troll, that's why they would suggest it and post something meaningless ^_~

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The alternative is that CT really wants the feature fixed and that I did a remarkable job of missing sarcasm. Or maybe CT was trying to use reverse psychology on Apple, as 36 pages of whinging by us hasn't gotten any results. 😀

Trane Francks wrote:

NiqueXyZ wrote:

It's because he or she is an obvious troll, that's why they would suggest it and post something meaningless ^_~

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The alternative is that CT really wants the feature fixed and that I did a remarkable job of missing sarcasm. Or maybe CT was trying to use reverse psychology on Apple, as 36 pages of whinging by us hasn't gotten any results. 😀

For results (like them or not) you should post here:

It's not a different opinion -- the "fix" would allow for the functionality as it stands right now to remain the same as the default behavior, while having an selectable option to do what we want.

So, even if you did have a difference of opinion and liked the way it worked right now, everything we're talking about doesn't even apply to that. So that's why it's obvious trolling ^_~ -- or possibly sarcasm 🙂

Did you try the Apple Feedback link I posted, complaining here is unlikely to get anything done.

We've all submitted feedback already with Smoke Monster's suggestion (which I think is the best solution) -- this thread is over a year old lol. I realize nothing's going to be done about it since it's not fixed in Mountain Lion, but still people continue to come here and complain about the way it was designed; maybe some day the complaints will pile up enough for them to actually take the feedback seriously.

Csound1 wrote:

For results (like them or not) you should post here:

Been there, done that. Several times, in fact. 😀

I think it's fair to assume that Apple has moved from supporting pro work to focusing on consumer and, maybe, prosumer usage. (With the latter, I feel as though I'm being very flexible.) The Mac Pro's recent refresh was laughable. And one really has to wonder why Apple even bothered with a Thunderbolt display. It remains an incredible piece of hardware in search of an operating system to make the best use of it.

It always puzzles me when a technology company reverses course and goes backwards instead of progressing.

Yet the fact is that "progress" is a random walk. Apple Inc. (not Apple Computer Inc. anymore) has chosen to move away from the highly evolved productive computer hardware and software in lieu of simpler less powerful devices and software. The trade they are hoping for is mass sales in consumer goods. I opinion profit margin is at the heart of it.

I personally have held off buying a new MBP, both home and work, pending the outcome of the Dual Screen fiasco, and the iCloud on SL issue as well. I think the jury is back on both issues. Single applicaton mode is the future for Apple products. Use Lion if you want contacts to work on your PC.

How long will it be before Apple completely discontinues the computer business? For many years it was a slam dunk that I would buy the latest Apple computer when I upgraded. Now, sadly I must take a serious look at the alternatives before making the new computer purchases.

Regarding sending feedback, I suggest we direct our feedback to the media and press, as well as Apple. It may be our only hope.

Jerry Dalton1 wrote:

It always puzzles me when a technology company reverses course and goes backwards instead of progressing.

Yet the fact is that "progress" is a random walk. Apple Inc. (not Apple Computer Inc. anymore) has chosen to move away from the highly evolved productive computer hardware and software in lieu of simpler less powerful devices and software. The trade they are hoping for is mass sales in consumer goods. I opinion profit margin is at the heart of it.

Well of course it is, the responsibility of a corporation is to generate profit for its shareholders.

Yep, and a lot of those shareholders are ****** right now especially because of the EPEAT thing.

http://www.zdnet.com/apple-shoots-itself-in-the-foot-with-epeat-withdrawal-70000 00658/

Seems like they just keep making the wrong moves

Glued in batteries = epic design!

Anyway, this thread keeps going off topic...Someone find a way to mess with the full screen API 😀

Hackers unite...hack the planet!

NiqueXyZ wrote:

Yep, and a lot of those shareholders are ****** right now especially because of the EPEAT thing.

That may be so, but I have seen no dissent about the profit.

Csound1 wrote:

NiqueXyZ wrote:

Yep, and a lot of those shareholders are ****** right now especially because of the EPEAT thing.

That may be so, but I have seen no dissent about the profit.

Give it time. With a lot of business and government patently disallowing the purchase of Apple products because of EPEAT and the erosion of support for corporate, i.e., professional, work flow, Apple is firmly establishing itself as a manufacturer of consumer content-consumption appliances. There'll definitely be a hit on the bottom line. The fallout from EPEAT probably won't be felt in any significant way for at least 3 quarters. Whether it matters to Apple and its shareholders, however, depends on the strategy that has been laid out by the board. I'm not privy to that information.

As I sit here typing on my MacBook in a house with a Time Capsule, Airport Extreme, a MacBook Air and a clutch of iPods, I find myself concerned over the lock-in. How much would it cost me in $$$, time and productivity to move back to Linux? I don't know, but as I look at the diminished processing potential of this mid-2007 MacBook, I find myself very, very seriously looking at the real cost of migrating back to Linux as my primary desktop. Five years ago, vendor lock-in was a non-issue to me because it really appeared that Apple was doing some amazing things. I honestly wish I still felt that way.

That's sort of the boat I'm in. For me though it's that I bought the Mac and then got Logic. The price of switching over isn't so much the issue. The issue is more the headache of having to keep old projects around in Logic - and a Mac for those projects - if I ever want to work on them again. My hope is that Apple sells off Logic and software development in general so that they can continue to do what works for them and their pro applications continue to be developed.

This may seem like a low blow - but I wonder if Steve Jobs would have knowingly abandoned power-users, considering they were the basis for his company. That said he was a very shrewd businessman, so who knows.

My guess is that power-users place too much demand on the apple to develop technology that is no longer all that profitable - so they've actively abandoned them. Makes sense - although pretty irresponsible and short sighted. If they've abandoned power-users, what assurance that anyone have that Apple won't just leave them in the dust with the next market turn?