Benjamin Costa

Q: Regular Expose in Lion

Does anyone know how to fix expose in Lion to show all windows?  (like it did in version 10.6 - through version "the dawn of time")

 

What I would prefer is a terminal code to make this the default behavior for expose for all users under all circumstances.

 

Anyone?

MacBook Pro, 2.3 GHz Intel Core i5 – 8GB RAM

Posted on Jul 22, 2011 8:16 PM

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  • by duosx,

    duosx duosx Jul 30, 2012 12:12 AM in response to chickinvoodoo
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    Jul 30, 2012 12:12 AM in response to chickinvoodoo

    While running TotalSpaces, press "spacebar" while in the "spaces" view. ALL WINDOWS WILL BE EXPOSED. Brand new feature

  • by chickinvoodoo,

    chickinvoodoo chickinvoodoo Jul 30, 2012 12:16 AM in response to duosx
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    Jul 30, 2012 12:16 AM in response to duosx

    thanks, i know this feature, and it is very good. like the app itself. and i use this feature very often.

     

    but there is no regular expose as known in (snow) leopard.

  • by duosx,

    duosx duosx Jul 30, 2012 12:22 AM in response to chickinvoodoo
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    Jul 30, 2012 12:22 AM in response to chickinvoodoo

    afaik, they're still working on that one, outside of the "mini grid" view. However, if you use Mountain Lion, you can now just go into your system preferences/Mission Control/ , then UN-CHECK "Group Windows by Application".  This will give you this functionality right now, in Mountain Lion. At least Apple "chose" to listen to some of the massive outcries for the previos Expose/Spaces funcationality stripped from Lion.

  • by chickinvoodoo,

    chickinvoodoo chickinvoodoo Jul 30, 2012 4:27 AM in response to duosx
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    Jul 30, 2012 4:27 AM in response to duosx

    in mountain lion? that sounds good to get back normal expose.

    it is really hard, how many people seems to be fu***** up without expose / spaces and that apple doesnt give back this functionality to lion or mountain lion.

    i remember spaces in leopard: it was a little 700 kb app, running smooth.

  • by hepcat72,

    hepcat72 hepcat72 Aug 2, 2012 8:19 AM in response to Benjamin Costa
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    Aug 2, 2012 8:19 AM in response to Benjamin Costa

    For those of us who manage multiple projects, each on a different desktop, and each project uses **the same applications** (e.g. Text Edit, Terminal, Safari), Mission Control and "Application Windows" is virtually unusable.  When I got to view "Application Windows", it mixes the windows from all my projects together, and even if I zoom them, since the files are named systematically (e.g. "project notes", etc. for consistency and compiling overview status reports easily), there's no way to tell which project a window belongs to.  Expose's feature of allowing me to view all windows of **a single space** was invaluable.  Mission Control (even the "Application Windows" feature) is a step backwards in productivity for me, almost back to the way it was before Exposé.

  • by chickinvoodoo,

    chickinvoodoo chickinvoodoo Aug 2, 2012 8:53 AM in response to hepcat72
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    Aug 2, 2012 8:53 AM in response to hepcat72

    so hepcat72, what would you need to work well? old spaces and old expose like in snow leopard?

     

    for me, your description supports my idea, that apple is not interested in professionals anymore, but home users only.

  • by Jared@Halifax,

    Jared@Halifax Jared@Halifax Aug 2, 2012 9:38 AM in response to hepcat72
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    Aug 2, 2012 9:38 AM in response to hepcat72

    Exactly.  Well put. 

     

    I hope (not knowing if it is even possible?) someone will make an app for this?  I am not a programmer.  But Man if I were.  Snow Leopard use of the way this feature USED to work... I am saddly missing it and it is a great example of a professional tool that I admit - most poeople did not use - but - if you did. 

     

    Then you are missing it like I am in whatever version of Lion you are using.

     

    I was so used to 8 desktops - moving application windows within them without ever having to zoom in or out. 

  • by ahainen,

    ahainen ahainen Aug 2, 2012 9:42 AM in response to Jared@Halifax
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    Aug 2, 2012 9:42 AM in response to Jared@Halifax

    This is getting close:

     

    http://totalspaces.binaryage.com/

     

    The only thing it doesn't have, is single window Exposé, but if you leave Mission Control on and just use that part of it, it's still there.

     

    TotalSpaces is still in beta, and it's pretty darn good so far.

  • by Jared@Halifax,

    Jared@Halifax Jared@Halifax Aug 2, 2012 9:42 AM in response to ahainen
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    Aug 2, 2012 9:42 AM in response to ahainen

    @ahainen

     

    Agreed...

  • by ahainen,

    ahainen ahainen Aug 2, 2012 9:46 AM in response to Jared@Halifax
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    Aug 2, 2012 9:46 AM in response to Jared@Halifax

    ^ sry, not to be an idiot, I know it was mentioned further up the thread.

     

    in response to: "I hope (not knowing if it is even possible?) someone will make an app for this?"

  • by Jared@Halifax,

    Jared@Halifax Jared@Halifax Aug 2, 2012 9:57 AM in response to ahainen
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    Aug 2, 2012 9:57 AM in response to ahainen

    Ya I see it... now... nice.  I have downloaded and this is good news.  Better than what we have...!

     

    Cool...

  • by Jared@Halifax,

    Jared@Halifax Jared@Halifax Aug 2, 2012 9:58 AM in response to ahainen
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    Aug 2, 2012 9:58 AM in response to ahainen

    Does anyone know if it works in Mountian Lion? 

     

    I am running Lion.

  • by ahainen,

    ahainen ahainen Aug 2, 2012 10:00 AM in response to Jared@Halifax
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    Aug 2, 2012 10:00 AM in response to Jared@Halifax

    I'm running ML, works fine.

     

    Sidenote, ML added an option to get rid of the window stacking, so you can see all windows in one desktop.  Super small step in the right direction...

  • by Jared@Halifax,

    Jared@Halifax Jared@Halifax Aug 2, 2012 10:11 AM in response to ahainen
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    Aug 2, 2012 10:11 AM in response to ahainen

    This is AWESOME.

     

    This is the ONLY reason that I am still running Snow Leopard on my iMac.  Was totally ****** at Apple for this and refused to buy more until there was a fix. 

     

    Working is so much easier with this. 

     

    As mentioned on my Twitter Feed - I would pay for this.  And I will be.  I have hash tagged Apple *** on this numerours time.

     

    https://twitter.com/gbsjared/status/231073274975633408

  • by hepcat72,

    hepcat72 hepcat72 Aug 2, 2012 11:12 AM in response to chickinvoodoo
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    Aug 2, 2012 11:12 AM in response to chickinvoodoo

    chickinvoodoo wrote:

     

    so hepcat72, what would you need to work well? old spaces and old expose like in snow leopard?

     

    for me, your description supports my idea, that apple is not interested in professionals anymore, but home users only.

     

    Well, as I mentioned, Exposé and Spaces pretty much was great except for minor annoyances such as how to figure out which project is in which space.  MC helps a *little* with that by allowing you to have different desktop patterns, but it's not as nice as being able to label each desktop (especially since I frequently can't even see the desktop).  I've mitigated the issue by using stickites placed under the dock, but I would basically just want to be able to name each desktop, which would display underneath the thumbnail.

     

    I would also like to be able to decide whether or not I want to see recently open files, files in the dock, files from other spaces from the same app, enter "application windows" while in MC, and... and this is a major one which would improve on the OS: if an app cancels restart/shoutdown/logout or if an issue comes up during restart/shutdown/logout, I would like to be prompted with an option to restore the state of the apps closed thus far in the shutdown process.  I frequently run into an issue during restart that causes the restart to be cancelled and all those apps that were quit - their state is gone and I have to deal with a mess of windows all gathered in the first desktop that I cannot effectively redistribute given my aforementioned gripes about MC.

     

    Additionally, I was struck by one comment about being able to freely move windows between any space in the old spaces.  I used that a lot too.  I could even reposition windows in those spaces while in spaces.  All-in-all, exposé and Spaces was much better than MC.

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