Q: Regular Expose in Lion

I don't agree that it doesn't work. It may be merged with mission control but it still seems to have all the functions and options that it did in my previous version, 10.4

Can you send a screenshot? I'm only getting the Mission Control view - i.e. all the windows of an application are overlapped, so that only the top window of each application is visible.

Well, I gave expose a good workout and I'm sorry to say it's not quite as fully functional as I thought. If you have several different applications running it works well to reduce and spread them out so you can see them all. But if you have several windows of one application open it does the opposite. It piles them on top of each other making room for all the applications your not running. It's bad to the point that if you open several browser windows and manually spread them around so you can see them all when you hit expose it piles them all up on top of each other. So, they dropped the ball on that one.

Through this discussion I understand what Mission control is all about. I didn't get it because I was using expose. When they created the wireless mouse and the track pad they lost access to expose so mission control was a bridge to expose for those devices.

It's too bad. Still useful but it could have been better.

dwb wrote:

 

Pisino has made the most intelligent comment in this discussion. Apple Feedback is the proper place to let Apple know what you like or don't like about a product. In the case of Mission Control I strongly suggest that in your feedback you not just say, "I want Expose back" but rather specify exactly what you could do with the old version of Expose that you cannot do with Mission Control. For example, at present Mission Control does not display every window.

This is good advice. Use the feedback link and let them know directly what you hate about Mission Control. I don't know why they can't at least offer the OPTION of letting people decide on their own how they want Mission Control/Expose to display. Apple seems to have taken an ugly turn with Lion. It's like they've decided that there's only one way that people should be using their computers, and if you don't like it, too bad. Whatever happened to the days when the ability to customize your computer so that it worked best for YOU was considered a plus?

The New mission control system is a step back for Apple. They broke  workflow and they made to be even worse to use then previews two applications. I have no problem to adapt to a good new designs, but when they create an aplication with iphone and MacBook hardware in mind and then you have iMac with no TrackPad then the only thing you can say, this time apple really went wrong.

Its clunky user interface. Old way was very easy you see your virtaul spaces and you drag app where you need and you arange space like you need. It was  great to use with multiple monitors.

They need to provide options for users to let things be as they were in the past. Technology changes so fast that I don't see a point learning something new when old was 10 times better.

I'm sticking with my Leopard I guess for longer time then I thought. Perhaps there will be third party applications that will solve this problem. Probably smart developer could make a lot of money from targeting old users who really liked the way things was.

Discovered a way to minimize and view all windows of a single application. It only works within a single application so it's not quite the full function of expose and it does require extra moves. Press control+Exposé (F3). This seems to be the only way to view open minimized windows.

You can also use a hot corner set to application windows for the same effect.

I use it with swipe activation personally, both that and screen corners are very fast to activate..

It's ok until the number of windows gets high, it's better than nothing.

With a dual monitor setup i'm finding you can 'prioritize/'deprioritize' by shinfting things between screens, i.e. a small number of important windows that you can comfortably swipe-expose between on your 'main screen' and some documentation on the other. you can minimize too, but then it's hard to see your minimized windows! it was so much easier just to shift things to a new desktop. Another option is to use the tabbing ,eg instead of dissmissing something, throw it onto a tab, but this is again more UI clutter, i like to disable tab bars

you can put your finger on what made the old system SO good:

it was the combination of Multitouch-Gesture-Trackpad, Expose, and spaces: it was faster and more comfortable to switch between many windows that way than any other system , e.g. using X-Codes' own tabs or internal navigation features.... easier to invoke the finger swipe than it is to aim your fingers precisely at a hot key or worse still aim the mouse cursor at some navigation bar.

just been looking at KWin on linux again all the options you want there but no gesture trackpad to activate them. Snow Leopard still wins

Also, in snow leopard, when you press space to preview in expose, you can move your mouse around, and it would preview the other windows. On Lion, you need to close the preview, then press space to preview another window.

Lion is ******* me off so much, if this doesn't change, my next computer will be a windows!

(finally) i downgrade to snow leopard one week ago. Now i´m happy.

Expose is one of the many changes that Apple made that actually makes Lion inferior to its older operating systems. Today Apple announced OSX Mountain Lion and it's a chance for Apple to right the many wrongs it commited with Lion, not the least among them being the idiotic Expose retooling that actually made it harder to use.

Let Apple know that you want them to fix their terrible mistakes with Lion by using the feedback link. If enough people complain, they may actually spend the money to fix it:

http://www.apple.com/feedback/

Give up on this idea.  Apple doesn't fix problems.  They're too confident and arrogant to recognize that they've made a mistake.  It's just one of those things in life where we're literally F@CKED and the only thing we can do about it is just take it up the A$$. 

I will be locked in a state of Snow Leopard for the rest of my life until Apple decides to bring back Snow Leopard Expose in Lion.  Which I highly doubt they will ever do.

I don't think Apple's programmers realize how ground-breaking Leopard Expose really was and they just completely destroyed it.  So sad. 

Oh well.  To Snow Leopard.  The last opperating system I'll ever use. 

I already downgraded my two machines and I'm happy like never before. All I can say LION s@ucks and in a big way. I don't see any point updating to all this new crap that they keep adding. It effected my workdlow and old feature that was so great was replaced with mission control that works perhaps on Laptops but does not work at all on large screen displays.

I created seperate partition in case one day Apple will do something magical :-)

LJH_CMH wrote:

 

Let Apple know that you want them to fix their terrible mistakes with Lion by using the feedback link.

Hopefully, one day, Lion will be as good as this (as posted earlier on this thread)...

   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktTNcj0fAM4

jazzybeat wrote:

 

I already downgraded my two machines and I'm happy like never before. All I can say LION s@ucks and in a big way. I don't see any point updating to all this new crap that they keep adding. It effected my workdlow and old feature that was so great was replaced with mission control that works perhaps on Laptops but does not work at all on large screen displays.

 

I created seperate partition in case one day Apple will do something magical :-)

Unfortunately for folks in this thread, if you look at the reviews of Mountain Lion, which will be the next OS released by Apple in the American Summer, they have no intention of doing away with Mission Control, which says loud and clear that spaces and expose died out with Snow Leopard and will not be returning.

Pete