Q: Regular Expose in Lion

petermac87 wrote:

 

...which says loud and clear that spaces and expose died out with Snow Leopard and will not be returning.

 

Pete

Only if there are considered to be mutually exclusive - which I don't think they need to be. 

There is no reason to take Mission Control away from the people who like it.

iPotential wrote:

 

Only if there are considered to be mutually exclusive - which I don't think they need to be. 

 

There is no reason to take Mission Control away from the people who like it.

I couldn't agree more. I am a big fan of MC. I liked Expose when it was around but didn't like spaces much. Mission Control is a perfect mix for my workflow. I was just informing the MC dislikers of what the future looks to hold. Personally I find MC one of the big selling points of Lion.

Cheers from Pete

A simple tweak would give best of both.

Expand the app bundles to fill the whole screen area (with less overlap within the bundle) in the case where the desktop has only one app.

Gnome Shell has an interesting approach, which could also fit seamlessly into mission control -simply do 'expose' of current desktop windows *without* app bundles, and show the desktop thumbnails across the top.

That would be genuinely superior to the previous method I think.

Then let Apple know at

http://www.apple.com/feedback/macosx.html

But it seems that OSX 10.8 is already in the hands of developers and when people speak of 'simple tweaks' just remember that they are not always so simple in the integration of coding. There is no magic wand in computing to include every little detail that suits 100% of consumers. That is why there are choices.

Pete

I should probably watch less Keynotes next time from Apple they tend to hipnotize people with these magical words, and just fall into trap updating my iMac with new OS. At least I have MacPro and I was abble to downgrade in a very very hard way (partions were locked, Instaltion CD was not working, the only way out was to buy seperate hardrive create a copy of bootable Leopard and then I was just able to erase this crap).

I really don't care about all these new LION features, non of them were apeaking. I spend 2 months stuguling  trying to adop to this new system and I failed: no Save as, everything is gray, incompactible software and many small bugs. There are many forums that covers all these great disasters that we sold for $29. Thank you but I decided its enough to be a beta tester.

Each update that they had for the past 5 years were great incremental improvements and now they just went wrong. These small changes thath they made were critical to many power users including me. I will stick with a great Leopard OS on all my desktop machines for some time till I see a real reason to upgrade.

jazzybeat wrote:

 

I will stick with a great Leopard OS on all my desktop machines for some time and once I see that there is a real reason to upgrade.

Then why not upgrade to Snow Leopard? It's just an advanced version of Leopard. The only reason you will need to upgrade is when Apple and other Software companies simply stop making software that is compatable to the old systems.

Pete

my mistake forgot to include SNOW word.

My 2c worth: I have to say that expose was one of the most useful features of the mac and one that really set it apart from windows. Since I use earlier versions of xcode with a large number of windows open at the same time, expose was unbelievably useful to find the window I was looking for. Expose is now a sad pile of useless junk to me. It would be nice if they fixed this so expose worked as it did before.

If someone wrote an app (with a light footprint) that did what Exposé used to do - i would pay $$$$$$.

And then i could spend the money i have already put aside to upgrade my hardware.

I agree I would like to see the snow version back. Please Apple give us a choice.

I don't know if people still haven't figured this one out yet, but regular Expose is available via three finger downward swipe on the trackpad or via Ctrl+F3 from the keyboard. (Use Fn+Ctrl+F3 if you have your function keys mapped as regular function keys instead of the brightness, volume, etc. controls.) I tripped over the swipe gesture accidentally about a month ago and just learned about the Ctrl+F3 from this very thread.

Cliftonc76 -- It's a good exercise to think before posting.  You shoiuld learn to do that a little better.  Think about what your post assumes and then consider whether your solution really makes any sense whatsoever. 

Think about it.  If the solution you propose is that simple, we wouldn't have a forum post about it. You wouldn't see articles about how badly Lion messed up with mission control. 

The feature everyone wants back is the "All Windows" feature.  The feature you are referring to is "Applications Window."  When you use three finger swipe or Control F3, you are activating the "Applications Window." 

What that means is this.  You will be able to see each window in the application you selected.  That means, if you have 5 Safari windows open, 1 mail app open, 3 word documents open and iTunes open, you will only be able to see each window within the application you select.

For example, if you're on Safari, when you use three finger swipe or F3, you get to see each Safari window.  That is already available through a hot corner.  This forum post has nothing to do with that feature.

What this forum post is about is bringing back the "All Windows" feature that Apple deleted in Lion.  The "All Windows" feature would allow you to see all open windows at once.  That would mean seeing the 5 Safari Windows, the 2 Mail Windows open, the 3 word docs, the 2 excell files and iTunes. 

That feature was available in Leopard and Snow Leopard and deleted in Lion. 

But those who think before they speak would have known that before even posting your brilliant idea.  Why?  Becuase they would realize that this many people wouldn't be so upset about Apple doing away with a feature if that feature still existed.  You wouldn't have all of these articles on it and this forum post wouldn't exist.  Think before you post....

Wow! Didn't mean to hurt anyone's feelings by posting a naive answer! I normally tend to ignore threads like these with thousands of replies just for that very reason. I see what you're saying. But honestly does my dumb reply deserve such a slanderous answer?

Cliftonc76 wrote:

 

I don't know if people still haven't figured this one out yet, but regular Expose is available via three finger downward swipe on the trackpad or via Ctrl+F3 from the keyboard. (Use Fn+Ctrl+F3 if you have your function keys mapped as regular function keys instead of the brightness, volume, etc. controls.) I tripped over the swipe gesture accidentally about a month ago and just learned about the Ctrl+F3 from this very thread.

You can also get the Expose all windows look by printing it off from a SL machine and taping it to your scren.

Cliftonc76, people in these threads are pretty precious about losing a feature or two that they feel was their birthright by buying an Apple. These old threads become havens for unhappy people who just cannot adapt to a new feature. 100 million Mac users in the world, yet a handful still believe that they know what is best and what is desired by ALL Mac users.

Good Luck

Pete

Cliftonc76 wrote:

 

Wow! Didn't mean to hurt anyone's feelings by posting a naive answer! I normally tend to ignore threads like these with thousands of replies just for that very reason. I see what you're saying. But honestly does my dumb reply deserve such a slanderous answer?

I just updated my comment.  I'm just sick of this answer.  That's all.  Every single message board has like 12 people posting this nonsense comment not realizing that obviously the problem wouldn't exist and there would be no forum post if the solution was that simple.