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Unable to send mail using MobileMe after upgrading

Since upgrading to Lion I can no longer send an email using my MobileMe account from my MacBook Air (11"). Mail spins aways for several minutes trying to send the message before finally displaying a pop up that the mail couldn't be sent using a standard port. This worked fine in Snow Leopard.


Sending from my upgraded iMac on the same MobileMe account works fine. What is particularly odd is that I have the mail accounts set to sync across the machines using MobileMe. So the settings are identical. Both machines are connected to the same router (Airport Extreme). The iMac via Ethernet and the MacBook Air via Wifi.


When I run Mail's Connection Doctor it says Connection and login to the server succeeded. Yet of course it can't connect to send mail. I can receive MobileMe mail just fine.


Any ideas how to resolve this?

iMac i5 27", 8GB RAM, Mac OS X (10.6.5), also 11" MacBook Air, iPhone 4G,Mac Mini 2.26GHz, 2x Apple TV

Posted on Jul 23, 2011 6:19 AM

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Jul 23, 2011 7:56 PM in response to caleyjack

My outgoing mail server authentication was fine.


I did manage to fix / isolate the problem though.


Turns out that after upgrading to Lion, sending mail via MobileMe defaulted to using digital signing. I've never noticed this feature before and to my knowledge had never enabled it prior to upgrading to Lion. For whatever reason, turning OFF digital signing allowed me to send mail again.


I also noticed something odd which had escaped me before. Before I discovered the solution of turning off digital signing, whenever I attempted to send a message from my Mobileme account, a very brief dialog box flashed across the screen. It was fast enough that I did not notice it at first. To actually read it required me to use Quicktime Player to do a screen capture, which let me freeze the frame where the message appeared:


Unable to sign message.

An error occurred while trying to sign the message with a certificate from "xxxxx@me.com". Verify that your certificate for this address is correct, and that its private key is in your keychain.


To my knowledge I have never set up a certificate, which could explain why the message would pop up. Why the dialog box flashes so quickly on the screen is still a mystery.


Now... time to read about digital signing, and certificates, to try and understand this.

Jul 24, 2011 3:04 AM in response to timyu

Ok... read up on signing, certificates, and email encryption.*


After familiarizing myself, I confirmed that I had not previously ever installed a certificate for digital signing of email. At least, there was no certificate in my Keychain directly assigned to my email address. There was one, issued by Apple, associated with my Apple ID which uses the same email address, but I assume that is for AppleID logins only and not for Mail?


I then proceeded to download a certificate (from Comodo) for my email address, and install it in the Keychain. After doing so, I now became able to send digitally-signed email from Mail.app (ie, turning on the "digital signature" option no longer resulted in send failure).


It's not clear to me how or why the Lion upgrade caused digital signatures to be turned on by default. I suppose it is technically possible I accidentally clicked on it while exploring the new Mail.app, but I have no recollection of doing so.


Has anyone else experienced this?



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*This seems to be a really poorly documented feature of Mail.app. Best links I could find date from the Panther OS 10.3 days:


http://support.apple.com/kb/TA22353?viewlocale=en_US

http://joar.com/certificates/

Jul 26, 2011 11:59 AM in response to Ron Guest

The removal of my mobileme mail account, quiting mail, then re-opening and adding my mobile me account again seemed to work for me; mail is now sending from my mobileMe acount again, although it still took an unusually long time (over a minute) to actually send the message. It just kept spinning.


Anyway. There are a few other glitches in Lion OS which is making me regret doing the update so quickly and blindly. I have spent hours trying to solve these problems... yeesh. Thanks for the post and sharing your solutions. Chris

Jul 27, 2011 6:25 PM in response to Ron Guest

I was having the same problem, for the past few days (Since upgrading to Lion) I have been unable to send email from my MacBook Pro. But I have found another solution that worked for me, without having to delete and then re-add my accounts.


After doing the upgrade to Lion, it turns out that the passwords that Mail saved to connect to the SMTP server(s) for my email accounts (MobileMe & Hotmail) were deleted. All you have to do is go into Mail > Preferences > Accounts > Account Information; click on the drop-down menu beside "Outgoing Mail Server (SMTP)" and choose "Edit SMTP Server List". Under the Advanced tab for each server, just re-enter your password.


Hope this helps!

Jul 30, 2011 10:00 AM in response to PRP_53

I think I have this figured out: I think MobileMe wants to be an IMAP account as of Lion.

In previous OSes, it could be either POP—the way my broken account was set up—or IMAP. Going all IMAP is perfectly consistent with the iCloud migration, too. It would also be kinda typical, if not helpful, of Apple not to announce this kind of low-level change for MobileMe now.

Ever since I deleted my MobileMe POP account from Mail and created a new one (Mail surprisingly made it an IMAP account by default), I've had no problems sending mail. It's been three days now.

I'm curious to know if others who are having this problem have their MobileMe Mail accounts configured as POP accounts.

I will say that deleting the old POP account and adding the new IMAP account didn't cost me my old Sent mail or anything; it was painless.

Jul 30, 2011 3:34 PM in response to FAK_

Aha. In the right hand corner of the "new message" mail window there are two small icons, one for encrypting messages, the other for digitally signing messages. If you have not set up digital signing (downloaded a certificate and installed it in your keychain), both of these icons should be visible, but grayed out. If you have set it up, the "digital signing" icon will become available. If you have set it up, AND you are sending your email to someone who has provided you with their public key, then the "encrypted" setting should be available also.


What was odd in my particular case was that after Lion, digital signing seemed to have been toggled ON. This is despite the fact that I had not, to my recollection, ever established a private key for my MobileMe mail account.

Yet, Lion was attempting to use one, and was complaining that the digital certificate it was attempting to use could not be read.


I could have fixed this just by turning digital signing OFF. But after learning about digital signing, it sounded like a pretty good feature, so I went to the trouble of obtaining a certificate & installing it.

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