Steverose798

Q: Problems With Lion (Found So Far).....

I have been using Lion for 2 days now and have come up against a number of issues which are ranging from the annoying to the downright frustrating.  If anyone has any answers I would be very grateful.  Also is it possible to remove Lion and go back to Snow Leopard as my new quad core i7 15" MacBook Pro is running like a dog after the upgrade!!!

 

 

  • Cannot put my MacMini to sleep any more (question asked in article "Mac Mini (2010 Version) Not Sleeping After Lion Upgrade"
  • Safari always opens with last page viewed, regardless of settings selected (can be very embarrassing if you know what I mean)
  • Mail seems to decide when it is going to get new emails and will show no new mails for some time even though my iPhone picks them up.
  • Flash no longer works properly - going to a site that wants to use the web cam gives me the Flash confirmation screen but will not let me select anything (Flash removed and reinstalled but still no go).
  • Spinning beach ball every time I try to launch a new application or do anything mildly taxing (this is on a Core i7 15" MacBook Pro with 4 Gb Ram.

 

Before the upgrade everything was fine and the MacBook Pro was the fastest Mac I had ever used, now it is running slower than my old 13" MacBook.

 

Is this Apple's 'Vista'?

 

Any help or suggestions (including how to go back) would be greatly appreciated.

 

Steve

MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.7)

Posted on Jul 23, 2011 2:25 PM

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  • by pianong,

    pianong pianong Jul 24, 2011 10:14 AM in response to Steverose798
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    Jul 24, 2011 10:14 AM in response to Steverose798

    I'm having problems with some of my function keys. For example, sometimes the volume will keep changing itself or while listening to music, songs pause, skip, or rewind in a random order. The music could be a problem with itunes, but who knows. OS X lion has been one of the most dissapointing things that I have recieved from apple. Great. is it possible to downgrade to SL?

  • by iBookmaster,

    iBookmaster iBookmaster Jul 24, 2011 10:21 AM in response to michaelmckeever9
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    Jul 24, 2011 10:21 AM in response to michaelmckeever9

    Safari has been a ram eater for a long time. The longer it runs without quitting, the more ram it uses. What I do is quit Safari every once in a while. The other thing that will let you regain some of your system ram is type "purge" without the quotes in Terminal and hit the return key. After about 10-15 seconds, you will see it decrease if you are running Activity Monitor in Applications/Utilities.

  • by gbfluteman,

    gbfluteman gbfluteman Jul 24, 2011 10:22 AM in response to m3x
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    Jul 24, 2011 10:22 AM in response to m3x

    M3x- This was on the League of Legends forum for an update to NVIDIA's Barracuda drivers.  Hope that helps.

     

    http://www.nvidia.com/object/macosx-cuda-4.0.19-driver.html

     

    Steve- glad I'm not the only one suddenly experiencing weird glitches with a brush so light on the trackpad that I'd swear I never touched it and my post accidentally backing up to previous browsing history via the delete key.  I've noticed that it usually only happens in Safari with the occassional same glitch in Rockmelt (in Safari, I was expericing it quite randomly from every 30 seconds-5 minutes).

     

    Kelvin- that's interesting to hear that you were able to use a third party app that's been cut off with the lack of Rosetta (at least, I would assume that's why since it's a PPC application, right?)  Sounds like you may have stumbled onto the cause of the problem.  Not going to lie- that stinks....

     

    SpinDoctor- what do you have for a graphics card?

  • by Graham Perrin,

    Graham Perrin Graham Perrin Jul 24, 2011 10:26 AM in response to iBookmaster
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    Jul 24, 2011 10:26 AM in response to iBookmaster

    iBookmaster wrote:

    … to a flash drive and start up from the flash drive and …

    Smooth sailing for some (I'm glad that it seemed to work for you, iBookmaster) but not for all.

     

    People, please, beware, be patient for Apple to provide the promised USB thumb drive. If you want to hack out a part from Apple's installer and experiment with that alone, no-one can stop you but — please — be aware that there are unknowns. Have backups that are comprehensive and thoroughly tested. Proceed with caution.

  • by Charles Dyer,

    Charles Dyer Charles Dyer Jul 24, 2011 10:30 AM in response to erinfromschenectady
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    Jul 24, 2011 10:30 AM in response to erinfromschenectady

    erinfromschenectady wrote:

     

    Has anyone had an issue with websites that require plug-ins/applets? For example, Target's website requires an applet in order to print their coupons, but my computer now won't print them. The page just keeps showing as processing, nothing else happens.

    That might be a Java problem. Java was installed by default in SL, but you have to install it yourself if you want it in Lion. It's _supposed_ to download automatically should you need it, but sometimes that doesn't work. You could try <http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/39490/java-for-os-x-lion> and then see if the applet works. If it doesn't, then the problem is that Target wrote that applet using PPC code. No Rosetta, no PPC code...

  • by gbfluteman,

    gbfluteman gbfluteman Jul 24, 2011 10:32 AM in response to erinfromschenectady
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    Jul 24, 2011 10:32 AM in response to erinfromschenectady

    Erin from Schenectady (I've actually been there and know where it is, believe it or not)- did you get a screen that looked like this?  This was in Rockmelt (as you can see via the Facebook Chat messages at the bottom and sidebars).  I have Java installed for both, so not sure if that's your issue or not.

     

    Screen Shot 2011-07-24 at 12.29.04 PM.png

  • by gbfluteman,

    gbfluteman gbfluteman Jul 24, 2011 10:39 AM in response to gbfluteman
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    Jul 24, 2011 10:39 AM in response to gbfluteman

    Erin- BTW, just so you know, I can't actually print on this machine due to my inability to find my driver's disk for my HP All-In-One (the only other machine in the house is a Windows one my 80 year old landlord uses), so I'm hoping Charles and myself have hit the problem on the head for you (sorry, Charles- I think we typed our posts at about the same time, cause I didn't see it when I went to reply).

  • by Charles Dyer,

    Charles Dyer Charles Dyer Jul 24, 2011 10:41 AM in response to stephenfromloughton
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    Jul 24, 2011 10:41 AM in response to stephenfromloughton

    stephenfromloughton wrote:

     

    In my case, all of my business software products (excluding Ardour) are modern, Intel based Snow Leopard products and they still don't work. I have had replys from all of my product manufacturers and they are all now frantically trying to fix the problems but won't give any timescales. Looks like back to Snow Leopard!

    I don't know what to say about that kind of thing. Lion was available in beta form to developers for a good chunk of a year (all you needed was an ADC paid membership, which is $100, yes, that's one hundred dollars...) Anyone who's serious would have updated his stuff _long_ ago. (Yes, this means that Adobe, for one, is not serious.) Lots of small developers have done this, with items ranging from Dropbox to Graphic Converter to Little Snitch. Big developers have done this, too; Microsoft has made changes in both Office 2008 and 2011 so that they work better with Lion. (Note: I didn't say they work _well_, I just said they work _better_.) HP and Brother updated their drivers for Lion _months_ ago. If they're gonna support Lion they should be ready already. There's no excuse.

  • by S.R.K.,

    S.R.K. S.R.K. Jul 24, 2011 11:50 AM in response to Steverose798
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    Jul 24, 2011 11:50 AM in response to Steverose798

    These are bugs I've noticed while running OS X Lion on my mid-2010 MBP13.

     

    1) Occasionally when launching something from the Dock via Launchpad, it opens/runs fine yet the Dock freezes. This usually happens when I click on Finder or System Preferences, and it resolves itself after several seconds or if I enter Launchpad again.

     

    2) When changing the position of the Dock from "Bottom" to "Left" and back to "Bottom" again with "Automatically hide and show the Dock" selected, I have to point the cursor at the left vertical side of the display in order for the Dock to appear from the bottom. If I point it at the bottom, nothing happens. Restarting the computer fixes this.

     

    3) I can no longer open MKV format files in Quicktime X without it asking me to download Quicktime 7 in order to view them, while with Snow Leopard I could.

     

    These are my gripes.

     

    1) When attempting to fullscreen an app on a second connected display, it reverts it back to my MBP's display in fullscreen. Thus, it's impossible to view certain apps in fullscreen on anything other than the primary display.

     

    2) To instantaneously brush aside all open apps/windows and reveal the desktop used to be a simple four finger upward gesture. Now it's an unchangeable and difficult to execute thumb and three finger gesture.

     

    3) I prefer Expose over Mission Control and although it can still be enabled in Lion, its purpose has been somewhat altered.

     

    4) The keyboard lights up only after I've logged into my user profile, not while I'm at the login screen.

     

    5) Keychain Access isn't compatible with the App Store login.

     

    6) Battery life seems to have taken a hit compared to when it was running Snow Leopard.

  • by Al Marzian1,

    Al Marzian1 Al Marzian1 Jul 24, 2011 12:20 PM in response to Steverose798
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    Jul 24, 2011 12:20 PM in response to Steverose798

    Images stored on Homepage will download instead of displaying if full url is pasted or typed.  This is not just a problem with Safari. Chrome and Chromium are acting the same since Lion. If I type the file name after pasting the first part of the URL, it works, put if I copy the URL and paste it, it downloads. If I hit "Open in new tab (or window)", it downloads. 

     

    Angry Birds freezes.  Maybe for the best.

  • by Charles Dyer,

    Charles Dyer Charles Dyer Jul 24, 2011 12:29 PM in response to S.R.K.
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    Jul 24, 2011 12:29 PM in response to S.R.K.

    3) I can no longer open MKV format files in Quicktime X without it asking me to download Quicktime 7 in order to view them, while with Snow Leopard I could.

     

    Personally, I gave up on QT a _long_ time ago, and use VLC for almost all movies instead. VLC doesn't give any static, and it's _free_.

  • by Charles Dyer,

    Charles Dyer Charles Dyer Jul 24, 2011 12:40 PM in response to Al Marzian1
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    Jul 24, 2011 12:40 PM in response to Al Marzian1

    Al Marzian1 wrote:

     

    Images stored on Homepage will download instead of displaying if full url is pasted or typed.  This is not just a problem with Safari. Chrome and Chromium are acting the same since Lion. If I type the file name after pasting the first part of the URL, it works, put if I copy the URL and paste it, it downloads. If I hit "Open in new tab (or window)", it downloads. 

     

    Angry Birds freezes.  Maybe for the best.

     

    Safari, Chrome, and OmiWeb all use WebKit, which is deployed with the OS. (This is why you often have to restart when you update Safari; you've made a change in OS files and you have to restart to unload the old files and load the new ones.) I suspect that because Chrome, and therefore Chromium, uses WebKit it will display similar behavior to Safari by virtue of using the same underlying tech. <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_web_browsers#WebKit-based>. Note that Firefox does _not_ use WebKit. If you try out Firefox and the problems go away, odds are good that it was, indeed, WebKit which was to blame.

     

    Other apps (such as iTunes) use WebKit, as well. (now you know why you have to close iTunes when you're updating Safari...) Angry Birds may well be one of them, I don't know.

     

    And, oh, Angry Birds is a Johnny-come-lately. I've been addicted to Bejeweled and Tetris for a long, long, LONG time now... Fortunately they don't use WebKit...

  • by S.R.K.,

    S.R.K. S.R.K. Jul 24, 2011 12:50 PM in response to Charles Dyer
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    Jul 24, 2011 12:50 PM in response to Charles Dyer

    I've been using VLC for some time now but in my opinion its picture and sound quality is just average, unlike Quicktime X. In fact, I think VLC's sound quality is terrible at high volume. I only really use it when listening to things via my MBP's internal speakers because it's louder than anything else.

  • by kcthebends78,

    kcthebends78 kcthebends78 Jul 24, 2011 4:02 PM in response to Steverose798
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    Jul 24, 2011 4:02 PM in response to Steverose798

    i have a imac mid 2011 model

     

    Often when I am playing flash my computer freezes

     

    often when my computer is sleeping i can not wake it up

     

     

    i have had this computer for about 2 mths with no problems. now i get lion for free and i am excited and this happens! this is my first mac and everyone says you pay extra but your geting a great computer... if this does not get resolved i will be switching back. because most of my time i am on youtube!

  • by karen274,

    karen274 karen274 Jul 24, 2011 4:07 PM in response to Steverose798
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    Jul 24, 2011 4:07 PM in response to Steverose798

    My machine first froze and now (during the time I was looking throught these posts) has completely stopped working ie the screen has gone black - and it doens't repond if I try to turn it on from the back.

     

    It is a brand new 27" IMac 2.7 QC( or rather a week old) and I downloaded Lion yesterday for free since it was such a recent purchase. I really wish I had waited.  Before going dead on me it had frozen with a spinning wheel when i tied to open a you tube video. And before that it took 7 minutes to post a tweet and earlier in the day it would not let me post to wordpress - just kept hanging. Because I am totally new to apple I have no idea what to do....  I will call Apple Care in the morning but could seriously do without this...

     

    This is last thing i expected having just swapped from PC as a business customer. Very disappointed.

     

    Has anyone else had the whole machine die on them like this?  I have time machine by the way so am hoping all is not lost!

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