Q: Problems With Lion (Found So Far).....

I'd have to agree with you there...Created a USB install stick from the Lion disk image, formatted and did a clean install, restored my applications and user data manually. Upgraded three systems like that on Friday--2 iMac's and a mini. Tedious yes, but been running without problems all weekend.

Lion requires 2 Gb of ram, Snow Leopard only needed 1 Gb of ram.

If you computer only has 2 GB of ram, it will likely be slower with OSX Lion than with Snow leopard.

Every new release of an operating system or program seems to require more ram of any system

Hope this is of some assistance

My Macbook was running perfectly well with Lion up until it began crashing once every hour...and then 5 times in one hour. Come to find out...my antivirus doesn't work with it (I must have a working antivirus to be able to connect to the internet at college). So...no big deal, just downgraded back to snow leopard and I'll wait for an upgrade in antivirus. Well, things got worse. I actually came running into my room because my computer was not responsive and beeping loudly.  It still kept crashing even though I was in snow leopard; kernel panics and such.  So frustrating!  Did a short and long hardware test and it showed up with a hardware problem error code 4MEM/4/40000000.  Called Apple support, said to reset PRAM. Crashed again...so now it's sitting in a repair center getting new RAM (Apple Certified) down the road and I am back on a Windows 7 machine.  Apple tech said Lion is terrible and you should probably have 8 gig ram. I have no idea whether these problems were caused by Lion but I have a feeling they were. I've had my Macbook for only a month and a half. Worked perfect...it was the dream computer like advertised.  Good thing I backed it up first.

Ranting and raving by an unhappy Apple customer praying this computer works when I get back to school in 2 weeks.

Ah...

1 if you really, really, REALLY must have AV on a Mac, and especially on a Mac running Lion, use ClanXAV or Sophos. Sophos in particular is known to work with Lion. Both are free.

2 the hardware test shows you have bad RAM. Lion could not possibly have done anything other than give your system a workout and reveal the fact that you had bad RAM.

3 that '8 GB' statement is a bit of an exaggeration. It is perfectly possible to live with 4 GB, so long as you don't do anyting memory-intensive and are willing to put up with the occasional low-memory-condition slowdown. 6 GB will go a long way towards getting rid of most of those problems. 8 GB would be... overkill.

I'm not having any of the particular problems mentioned by others here on either of my Macs:

1. A late 2006 MBP with 3 GB RAM.

2. A late 2009 iMac 20.5" with 12 GB RAM.

It seems to run well on both of them.

The only thing I found so far that I would call a bug is that the setting of font for a message list in the column view in Mail doesn't work.

As far as speed goes, most things seem as fast or faster than Snow Leopard except for one thing - opening apps seem to take longer - more hopping in the dock before they actually open.

Once they are open they all seem to work ok. I like Mission Control. I feel like my Desktop has stretched out and become free.

Oh, and I unchecked that crazy "natural scrolling." I don't have to be retrained how to use my mouse after all these years.

doug

Right, here come my snag list (running on MacBook Air 2011, 1.86 Core 2 Duo, 2GB, 128GB SSD):

1) First and at-most-by-far-distracting thing -- overall sluggish performance. Let me list you a few cases:

1.1) MAIL: I have in my inbox around 16k emails. When using new layout, then in email list pane when scrolling up and down, it's far from what you could call "smooth"

1.2) MAIL: click show/hide left-most pane. This happens very rougly.

1.3) MAIL: scroll conversation in right-most pane. Again, not smooth

1.4) "SPACES": try to switch po space on right/left - again, very rough

1.5) BATTERY USAGE: it was advertised 5-7h. I get ATMOST 4.5 with 50% brightness and light usage. It was far better with Snow Leopard (and yes, no caching going on)

1.6) Wake up (when using full disc encryption) - not instant anymore, but that's acceptable given the increased level of security (or at least sense of being secure)

1.7) Launchpad - again transitions are not smooth.

To summarize then, although LION has many cool features, please, optimize it for "OLD 2011 MACBOOK AIR" or else this is just stupid move to render almost new machine so useless.

I've been with mac since 2005 and have a good dose of experience - and sorry, this now is worst by miles.

Not to mention - that I bought Lion whereas should have get it for free as purchased my air on 1st of July (any refund possible?)

Regards.

Additionally:

* when moving over icons in DOCK with magnification turned on, you can see that it's no more smooth. it's very rough. try moving mouse pixel by pixel to see how awckward it behaves. It seems for me that some system wide component is faulty which is responsible for most of the visual FX. (open gl?). Something with rounding perhaps. Anyway, it was simple thing that worked flawlessly in Snow Leopard.

* regarding scrolling in MAIL - i compare that with one in iPhone 3gs, and iPhone is performing far better.

You would be a happier person if you cleared out or archived your inbox. Perhaps your email server is strugling to send mail to you and that might be why there may be an overall slugish appearance. You describe a bunch of petty things it seems. I would you suggest not being that way to your coworkers as well.

If it was all bad in snow leopard, I would not mention all that. But, having such difference. Really. upsetting.

http://www.apple.com/feedback/

I "upgraded" yesterday... everything is running smothly so far but iMail... it consistently and recurrently keeps crashing for no reason... Anyone have any idea of a set up that might fix the problem? Or I'll have to wait for the .1 version of Lion?

That is really anoying and my solution was just keep iMail off. I'm using my iPhone to read my e-mails.

I too "upgraded" yesterday, everything going smoothly apart from a slight problem with Mail, but that is now sorted. FWIW I did a clean install and restored my personal data from Time Machine but not my Apps. Will do those manually.

the only problem I have is the log-in screen when booted up, I get an annoying dark grey text to speech box in the lower left corner that I cannot figure out how to stop,,,,,,,,,,,,, anyone know how to do it ?????

I'm a firm believer when installing a new OS to do a clean install, that way, it gets rid of all the crap you have accumilated over the years.

2 year old 13" Macbook with 4 gig ram

Installed Lion at release date.

My only issue is battery life, which dropped from 5-6 hours to 2-3 hours.

Else all you people with different problems, I hope you all did clean install (without returning user data from time machine - because I believe that moves back your old crappy Library folder). If not, blame yourself. ;-)

Macbook Pro i7 2.66 Ghz, 4 GB RAM, 512 MB GT 330M

A problem I found is you're not able to customize the Lion installation when doing a clean install made from a bootable DVD. The option is there but it is grayed out. By custom install I mean like in other Mac OS releases you're able to not install things like printer drivers or language translations etc ....

Joseph

I've noticed the password refusal a few times as well. Seems to be intermittent.

Joseph