Steverose798

Q: Problems With Lion (Found So Far).....

I have been using Lion for 2 days now and have come up against a number of issues which are ranging from the annoying to the downright frustrating.  If anyone has any answers I would be very grateful.  Also is it possible to remove Lion and go back to Snow Leopard as my new quad core i7 15" MacBook Pro is running like a dog after the upgrade!!!

 

 

  • Cannot put my MacMini to sleep any more (question asked in article "Mac Mini (2010 Version) Not Sleeping After Lion Upgrade"
  • Safari always opens with last page viewed, regardless of settings selected (can be very embarrassing if you know what I mean)
  • Mail seems to decide when it is going to get new emails and will show no new mails for some time even though my iPhone picks them up.
  • Flash no longer works properly - going to a site that wants to use the web cam gives me the Flash confirmation screen but will not let me select anything (Flash removed and reinstalled but still no go).
  • Spinning beach ball every time I try to launch a new application or do anything mildly taxing (this is on a Core i7 15" MacBook Pro with 4 Gb Ram.

 

Before the upgrade everything was fine and the MacBook Pro was the fastest Mac I had ever used, now it is running slower than my old 13" MacBook.

 

Is this Apple's 'Vista'?

 

Any help or suggestions (including how to go back) would be greatly appreciated.

 

Steve

MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.7)

Posted on Jul 23, 2011 2:25 PM

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  • by Daniel_NY,

    Daniel_NY Daniel_NY Jul 23, 2011 7:34 PM in response to Morgan F
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    Jul 23, 2011 7:34 PM in response to Morgan F

    Nope

  • by ferrywlto,

    ferrywlto ferrywlto Jul 23, 2011 7:37 PM in response to Steverose798
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    Jul 23, 2011 7:37 PM in response to Steverose798

    using late 2009 24" iMac here. 2.8G C2D with 4GB RAM.

    found that the animation of minimizing / maximizing window is slow.

    terribly slow when open / close the launchpad.

     

    my Mac is extremly fast when in SL.

    Lion upgrade from a clean SL install.

    anyone knows why?

  • by gbfluteman,

    gbfluteman gbfluteman Jul 23, 2011 8:59 PM in response to Steverose798
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    Jul 23, 2011 8:59 PM in response to Steverose798

    I am running a 13" nearly brand new MacBook Pro with the i5 processor, 4 GB RAM, and integrated Intel graphics card (rest of the specs can be found on Apple's website).

     

    Issues with Lion so far:

     

    1) My display will sleep, but not the computer, unless I do it manually.  I did post system/ Console logs in the thread that Steverose798 linked to in his original post to confirm this fact.

     

    2) Secondary display issues

    I have a 24" LG HD TV I use as a secondary display.  It's great for Netflix, gaming, etc.  It's hooked up for HDMI cable through the Moshi adapter.  Regardless of whether or not my secondary display is hooked up, on or off, my MacBook's display should look like this:

    Screen Shot 2011-07-23 at 10.22.26 PM.png

    Notice that "Mirror displays" is not checked.

     

    Secondary display should look like this when not mirrored:

    Screen Shot 2011-07-23 at 10.22.26 PM (2).png

    Now, in theory, when I check the box to "Mirror displays", the secondary display should change from the Captain America background to the Thetis Moon background from Digitalblasphemy.com.  Instead, the MacBook's diplsay is changing to mirror the secondary display, instead of the secondary display mirroring the MacBook's original display (as seen below).  In order to keep the Thetis Moon background, I have to either change the background while mirrored (which means that both displays are Thetis Moon) or uncheck the "Mirror displays" box (which I can do regardless of whether or not the display is on or off; as long as it's hooked up, this is an issue; if I unplug the display from the MacBook, then my display reverts to normal).

    Screen Shot 2011-07-23 at 10.23.54 PM.png

     

    3)  I was having an OpenGL issue with a game I play (League of Legends), but that seems to have magically resolved itself.

     

    4) Battery life has been somewhat reduced, but not to the proportions that some users are reporting.  I do also notice that the computer is running warmer and the fan runs a little more often than it did before with Snow Leopard.  Admitedly, I am running a function with Lion that I was not running with SL- FileVault.  So, it's possible that both of these issues might be related to the constant encryption process?  I'm going to test turning FileVault off and see if that helps or not, and post back later when I get back from work.

     

    None of these issues are like crazy, makes my computer useless like Vista did, but they are frustrating, as it should follow the model of iOS- "It just works."  Thanks for getting on this stuff, Apple, and I look forward to a patch very soon.

  • by gbfluteman,

    gbfluteman gbfluteman Jul 23, 2011 9:37 PM in response to gbfluteman
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    Jul 23, 2011 9:37 PM in response to gbfluteman

    Not sure if this is Lion or me just being a dough head from working third shift, but it seems my Energy Saver preferences were set so that the computer didn't go to sleep when it plugged in (I came back before going to work and noticed that my computer went to sleep- I had unplugged it before getting ready for work to test the battery life, again).  So, I'll report more on that later.

  • by gbfluteman,

    gbfluteman gbfluteman Jul 23, 2011 9:38 PM in response to gbfluteman
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    Jul 23, 2011 9:38 PM in response to gbfluteman

    I say I don't know if this is Lion or not, because I could have sworn I had changed it so it went to sleep after 15 minutes.  So, I'll try again and report more after I get back from work.

  • by rsjm,

    rsjm rsjm Jul 23, 2011 9:41 PM in response to etresoft
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    Jul 23, 2011 9:41 PM in response to etresoft

    I'm still not seeing many people with my problem: Lion is eating hard drive space. It's doing it on two machines and I can watch it by getting ino on the hard drive.

     

    Has anyone else noticed this? Apple Store has no answers except to go back to SL.

  • by gbfluteman,

    gbfluteman gbfluteman Jul 23, 2011 9:45 PM in response to rsjm
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    Jul 23, 2011 9:45 PM in response to rsjm

    If you go to the thread that Steverose linked in his original post, look at what I posted regarding the Console logs.  I noticed some odd lines about having negative space available (which I thought was very odd).  Activity Monitor says I have tons free, though.  Does your Console log look like anything similar to mine?

  • by Marco SF,

    Marco SF Marco SF Jul 23, 2011 9:59 PM in response to Steverose798
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    Jul 23, 2011 9:59 PM in response to Steverose798

    My computer runs with problems since upgrading to Lion... so dissapointed!! :-(  Keeps freezing repeatedly when playing videos on line after the computer has been on sleep mode and (randomly) on ocassion.  Updated my desktop image and now I can no longer access iphoto to change it (??).  New to macs (have had mine for less tan two weeks and as a PC convert and I am so disheartened).    Can I get a refund and revert back to Snow Leopard so my computer runs properly?  So frustrating for me (but not near as much as it must be for apple... what a fiasco)

  • by gbfluteman,

    gbfluteman gbfluteman Jul 23, 2011 10:04 PM in response to gbfluteman
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    Jul 23, 2011 10:04 PM in response to gbfluteman

    One other thing to add to problem #1:

    This is what Console reports when I close the lid and the computer is not plugged in:

     

    7/23/11 11:54:12.000 PM kernel: hibernate image path: /var/vm/sleepimage

    7/23/11 11:54:12.000 PM kernel: sizeof(IOHibernateImageHeader) == 512

    7/23/11 11:54:12.000 PM kernel: Opened file /var/vm/sleepimage, size 4294967296, partition base 0x0, maxio 400000 ssd 0

    7/23/11 11:54:12.000 PM kernel: hibernate image major 14, minor 0, blocksize 512, pollers 5

    7/23/11 11:54:12.000 PM kernel: hibernate_alloc_pages flags 00000000, gobbling 0 pages

    7/23/11 11:54:12.000 PM kernel: hibernate_setup(0) took 0 ms

    7/23/11 11:54:16.000 PM kernel: Ethernet [AppleBCM5701Ethernet]: Link down on en0

    7/23/11 11:54:16.000 PM kernel: IOThunderboltSwitch::i2cWriteDWord - status = 0xe00002ed

    7/23/11 11:54:16.000 PM kernel: IOThunderboltSwitch::i2cWriteDWord - status = 0x00000000

    7/23/11 11:54:16.000 PM kernel: IOThunderboltSwitch::i2cWriteDWord - status = 0xe00002ed

    7/23/11 11:54:16.000 PM kernel: IOThunderboltSwitch::i2cWriteDWord - status = 0xe00002ed

    7/23/11 11:54:29.000 PM kernel: IOThunderboltSwitch::i2cWriteDWord - status = 0x00000000

    7/23/11 11:54:29.000 PM kernel: IOThunderboltSwitch::i2cWriteDWord - status = 0xe00002ed

    7/23/11 11:54:29.000 PM kernel: IOThunderboltSwitch::i2cWriteDWord - status = 0xe00002ed

    7/23/11 11:54:29.000 PM kernel: IOThunderboltSwitch::i2cWriteDWord - status = 0xe00002ed

    7/23/11 11:54:29.000 PM kernel: hibernate_page_list_setall start 0xffffff806b1f2000, 0xffffff806b23e000

    7/23/11 11:54:29.000 PM kernel: hibernate_page_list_setall time: 205 ms

    7/23/11 11:54:29.000 PM kernel: pages 745068, wire 219439, act 201397, inact 1681, spec 102, zf 567, throt 0, could discard act 105226 inact 142893 purgeable 16445 spec 57318

    7/23/11 11:54:29.000 PM kernel: hibernate_page_list_setall found pageCount 423186

    7/23/11 11:54:29.000 PM kernel: IOHibernatePollerOpen, ml_get_interrupts_enabled 0

    7/23/11 11:54:29.000 PM kernel: IOHibernatePollerOpen(0)

    7/23/11 11:54:29.000 PM kernel: writing 422892 pages

    7/23/11 11:54:29.000 PM kernel: encryptStart 2e7e0

    7/23/11 11:54:29.000 PM kernel: encryptEnd 13e9a560

    7/23/11 11:54:29.000 PM kernel: image1Size 420123136, encryptStart1 2e7e0, End1 13e9a560

    7/23/11 11:54:29.000 PM kernel: encryptStart 190a9200

    7/23/11 11:54:29.000 PM kernel: encryptEnd 2daadd80

    7/23/11 11:54:29.000 PM kernel: PMStats: Hibernate write took 11942 ms

    7/23/11 11:54:29.000 PM kernel: all time: 11942 ms, comp bytes: 1732579328 time: 1787 ms 924 Mb/s, crypt bytes: 679938304 time: 4123 ms 157 Mb/s,

    7/23/11 11:54:29.000 PM kernel: image 766172672, uncompressed 1732579328 (422993), compressed 762610128 (44%), sum1 7945ec95, sum2 5ce83887

    7/23/11 11:54:29.000 PM kernel: wired_pages_encrypted 162386, wired_pages_clear 56860, dirty_pages_encrypted 203747

    7/23/11 11:54:29.000 PM kernel: hibernate_write_image done(0)

    7/23/11 11:54:29.000 PM kernel: sleep

    7/23/11 11:54:29.598 PM configd: network configuration changed.

     

    So, it went to sleep!  YAY!!!  Lid closed problem solved, right?

     

    WRONG!!!

     

    Plugged it back in to test (lidopen is when I opened it up, and then plugged it back in after typing in my password), closed the lid, and sure enough after waiting 2 minutes, it still hadn't gone to sleep....

    7/23/11 11:54:57.000 PM kernel: Wake reason: EC.LidOpen (User)

    7/23/11 11:54:57.000 PM kernel: Previous Sleep Cause: 5

    7/23/11 11:54:57.000 PM kernel: Ethernet [AppleBCM5701Ethernet]: Wake reason GIGE - bonjour - pattern match

    7/23/11 11:54:58.000 PM kernel: IOThunderboltSwitch::i2cWriteDWord - status = 0xe00002ed

    7/23/11 11:54:58.000 PM kernel: IOThunderboltSwitch::i2cWriteDWord - status = 0x00000000

    7/23/11 11:54:58.000 PM kernel: IOThunderboltSwitch::i2cWriteDWord - status = 0xe00002ed

    7/23/11 11:54:58.000 PM kernel: IOThunderboltSwitch::i2cWriteDWord - status = 0xe00002ed

    7/23/11 11:54:59.000 PM kernel: Ethernet [AppleBCM5701Ethernet]: Link up on en0, 100-Megabit, Full-duplex, Symmetric flow-control, Debug [796d,0300,0de1,0300,45e1,0000]

    7/23/11 11:54:59.787 PM configd: network configuration changed.

    7/23/11 11:55:00.415 PM configd: network configuration changed.

    7/23/11 11:55:00.792 PM configd: network configuration changed.

    7/23/11 11:55:10.864 PM UserEventAgent: ServermgrdRegistration cannot load config data

    7/23/11 11:55:10.864 PM UserEventAgent: ServermgrdRegistration oldConfig is nil during net changed notification

    7/23/11 11:55:20.000 PM kernel: IOSurface: buffer allocation size is zero

    7/23/11 11:57:52.842 PM SystemUIServer: -[MDMenuWindow _checkTopRight] the window is off the screen topRight point is {1910, 778}

     

    That last line is when I opened the lid back up. I believe that line is what explains the fact that I keep having to move my mouse way over off from the "extended desktop" (even though the secondary display is off!!)- I think that's indicating the position of the mouse cursor on the "secondary screen" (I put it in quotes, since the TV is hooked up, but off).

  • by tigereye19,

    tigereye19 tigereye19 Jul 23, 2011 10:10 PM in response to Steverose798
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    Jul 23, 2011 10:10 PM in response to Steverose798

    I am very happy before I installed Lion.

    Once Installed, my basic application to Merge PDF files is not possible.

    In Preview PDF, there is no more Sidebars. Hence cannot merge PDF Files.

    This is my basic application of my Mac Book.

    Have to uninstall Lion, out it in cage!?

     

     

    Cheers

  • by gbfluteman,

    gbfluteman gbfluteman Jul 23, 2011 10:17 PM in response to gbfluteman
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    Jul 23, 2011 10:17 PM in response to gbfluteman

    An interesting tid bit to note regarding my display issue with problem #2- this taken from About this Mac- More info- System Report- Graphics/ Displays (notice- it says, "Display not connected", yet I can still check or uncheck the "Mirror displays" option and recreate the mirror displays error):

     

    Intel HD Graphics 3000:

     

      Chipset Model:          Intel HD Graphics 3000

      Type:          GPU

      Bus:          Built-In

      VRAM (Total):          384 MB

      Vendor:          Intel (0x8086)

      Device ID:          0x0126

      Revision ID:          0x0009

      Displays:

    Color LCD:

      Resolution:          1280 x 800

      Pixel Depth:          32-Bit Color (ARGB8888)

      Main Display:          Yes

      Mirror:          Off

      Online:          Yes

      Built-In:          Yes

    M237WD:

      Resolution:          1920 x 1080 @ 60 Hz

      Pixel Depth:          32-Bit Color (ARGB8888)

      Mirror:          Off

      Online:          Yes

      Rotation:          Supported

      Television:          Yes

    Display Connector:

      Status:          No Display Connected

    Display Connector:

      Status:          No Display Connected

  • by rsjm,

    rsjm rsjm Jul 23, 2011 10:22 PM in response to gbfluteman
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    Jul 23, 2011 10:22 PM in response to gbfluteman

    Yeah my console is filled with stuff but is there something specific I should be looking for? I've just lost another Gig in the last hour.

  • by splinds,

    splinds splinds Jul 23, 2011 10:33 PM in response to Steverose798
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    Jul 23, 2011 10:33 PM in response to Steverose798

    I'm commenting as nobody seems to have the same issue.  I just got the new MacBook Air 13".  Everything is fine for me with Lion except when I try to play games (Steam and the Sims 3) I have major graphics issues.

     

    One of the games that doesn't work at all is the Sims 3, which is bizarre because it works on MacBook Pros with the same specs, and it works for a lot of people running Lion with minor issues (most of those people with issues seem to be using the NVIDIA cards.)

     

    My specs are:

    Processor  1.7 GHz Intel Core i5

    Memory  4 GB 1333 MHz DDR3

    Graphics  Intel HD Graphics 3000 384 MB

     

    As I said, people with the same specs not running Lion have no problems, and people with MBPs running Lion seem to have mixed results.  Is this a video driver issue?  This is all way beyond my flimsy expertise.

     

    (Oh and, inb4 anyone lectures me about the MBA being a poor gaming computer, I didn't buy this laptop for gaming, hahah.  I just like to do a little on the side)

  • by gbfluteman,

    gbfluteman gbfluteman Jul 23, 2011 11:02 PM in response to splinds
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    Jul 23, 2011 11:02 PM in response to splinds

    Splinds- check with NVIDIA to see if they have a driver's update for Lion.  I think I remember seeing a forum on League of Legends of a similar OpenGL issue with NVIDIA cards that was fixed via a driver update.

  • by Tazmann9898,

    Tazmann9898 Tazmann9898 Jul 23, 2011 11:06 PM in response to Steverose798
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    Jul 23, 2011 11:06 PM in response to Steverose798

    I have problems with it also.  It is constantly freezing when using safari.  Any suggestions or ideas?

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