Q: Problems With Lion (Found So Far).....

I also experienced this. I hit the PRAM (option-cmd-p-r when you restart) and it got better. However this new i7 MacBook Pro with Lion doesn't compare to my old MacBook Pro with 10.6 on it. And it had far fewer processors. I've got 4 gb ram and await 8 gb to see if that helps. I've come to really hate that beachball. I do not know how to optimize this. I run VM Fusion for a virtual PC and that also seems to drag it down. Again the verdict is out until I get the 8 gb ram in it. I'm hoping that's enough.

iBookmaster wrote:

 

I would say (...) erase and install Lion freshly. (...) I did an erase and install and things have been much smoother.

may be true, but have you got any vague idea how much work that will be, to get up and running from scratch, and get the system back to where you had it, after long 'cultivation' of how you are used to work, all the tweaks, settings, helper programs, etc, that make life easier ... No way.

I remember doing this with system 5, 6, 7, 8 and even 9. There were no proper installers in those days, and it was always recommended to start afresh.

This was exactly one of the things that was a big plus with the introduction of osX

L0RRAIN3 wrote:

 

(...) I hit the PRAM (option-cmd-p-r when you restart) and it got better.

Good idea, this has always helped in the past.

So I just now tried it out, but I got an unexpected result.

after the key-combination I am alsked to enter my firmwarepassword (at least that's what I think it is, I have never seen this screen before), then the mac starts up.

with previous systems I was used to hold down the key-combination until it had gone through about 4 or 5 cycles. That way it used to be 'the' method to purge the PRAM completely.

... But maybe this is not needed anymore?

Also, in past times you could, if nothing else worked press the CUDO button (a little, mostly red button on the motherboard) for a few second, with power down of course. But with an imac this is of course not possible ...

Bipedias wrote:

 

My Main problems

 

1) The beachball turning sign now frequently appears.

2) Safari cannot connect to the server. (This happens quite regularly now compared to my previous snow leopard.)

3) Inertia scrolling does not work on my lion os x after startup, despite (in universal access) the option said "With inertia".

I found the solution for 3. It's a bug. For some reason Lion does the opposite than actually set. Configure the dropdown on Without Inertia and reboot. Inertia has come back on two of my machines this way!

Right, I forgot that, hold the keys down until 3-4 "chimes" occur on the restart when you do the PRAM. Good reminder. I did not encounter any requirement to enter a password for firmware. Good luck. I'm facing another day of trying to get some productivity out of what ought to be a screaming machine. Looking for any way I can optimize.

Turn Folder Sharing off to make the vm faster?

VM Fusion for Lion is slower, bulkier.

What else can I turn off?

Jo,

reinstalling from scratch Lion is not a nightmare, just it takes time:

(1) I used Carbon Copy Cloner to make a copy of my SL disk on an external disk. This took 5 hours

(2) After that I initialized my hfs parition and installed Lion

(3) I updated the OS

(4) I have used Migration Assistant to get my users and applications back (4 hours)

That's all.

Bugfixer wrote:

 

Jo,

 

reinstalling from scratch Lion is not a nightmare,

well all has its perspective of course ...

I have a TM with SL from June I think.

I could make a copy of my documents folder. That would cover most changes. I would lose a lot of e-mails though (I think, or will it sink from MM? ... I keep everything archived on MM)

Or could I downgrade using a SL DVD to start  up from, and then using migration assistant toget everything from my TM with Lion (the most recent one) ... would that work.

I don't mind that it takes time. It can do things overnight I guess. I do mind the time it will take me to fiddle around with it to get it where I want it to be ...

I wouldn't get data from a TM disk made with Lion using Snow Leopard. The opposite is ok.

I'm having the same issue. Any word on what this is?

Hi S.R.K.

This is definitely a minor but annoying bug. I had the same problem but here's a short-term fix: just change your full-screen Safari window back to a desktop window and then use the "Use Image as Desktop Picture." It seems that you just can't use that menu item with Safari is in fullscreen mode. Boo!

This is MY condensed list of problems (profanities removed):

OK, so I'm a couple weeks into using Lion and am getting increasingly frustrated with the new problems popping out. The most recent? Auto-save doesn't work. Oh-ho -- it works alright -- but the problem is I CAN'T REVERT ANY CHANGES without it crashing my word processor (Apple Pages). This is a HUGE ******* problem because I like to copy stuff from files that were just created or I might change a lotta **** in a file I just created and close it (thinking it'd revert) oops. I've already lost a handful of files to versioning **** in OS X Lion (laugh while you can, Windoze boyz).

Aside from this apparently *******  bug in versioning (I have yet to uncover the worst with versioning in other apps that support it), there are a couple more bugs I've taken the liberty of noting down. How buggy ~is~ Lion? Well -- this is THE FIRST time I've ever started noting bugs in ANY OS -- Windoze or OS X, and the list I'm creating is becoming long.

• Sticky Dock

Sometimes.... er... ah ******* . Ok, a LOT of times when you accidentally evoke a hidden dock from view by accidentally moving the cursor to the bottom of the screen (or wherever your hidden dock is), the dock will pop up and get stuck. Yes. Stuck, as in one icon is caught in the middle of an aborted ***culation and the whole *******  thing is just STUCK. Until of course, you move your cursor back down, and WAY down as if to bring out the dock, because it requires a second swipe motion to bring it out --- supposedly to prevent these aborted ***culations in the first place!!

• Mission Control Crash in Full Screen Mail

when quick-viewing any attachment in full-screen enabled Apple Mail, if you go full-screen on the attachment, you'll crash Mission Control after closing the quick-view preview. Yes -- gestures and everything Mission-Controlly will just stop functioning -- even the Mission Control keys on the keyboard. You'll have to quit Mail in order to get the ship back in control.

• Safari Merge Windows crash

if you have two Safari windows open - one if fullscreen mode and the other in normal mode, when you try to merge the two using the Merge All Windows command, Safari goes into some half-baked fullscreen mode that doesn't hide the menu bar. When you try to exit (keyboard commands won't work to exit) using the menu, Safari crashes.

• The WWW stops in Safari

every now and then your links will just stop and text boxes in your browser window will... well -- they just won't work. I think I've boiled this down to the problem below: accidental and stuck pinch-to-zoom...

• Accidental and Stuck Pinch-to-Zoom

pinch to zoom is a neat feature but hey -- sometimes it gets in the way. Sometimes you will zoom a billionth of a micrometer -- and the screen looks just as crisp and normal as it should -- but you've zoomed, and it gets stuck, and because it gets stuck, you can't click on any links in your browser window or type any text. You need to pinch again to get it unstuck.

• Pinch-to-Zoom Malfunction

...and sometimes it just STOPS working at all. I'll try to recreate this (I've been able to do it twice in a row with a certain site that seems to use a lotta Java)... but what happens is that normally you pinch to zoom into webpages, right? Well in certain cases the feature becomes disabled. This may be related to my OTHER problem below (something to do with the Accessibility features):

• Screen-Zoom Malfunction

In the Universal Access control panel you can select a nice feature called "Zoom". With Zoom, you can zoom into your screen with a key-modifier and a swipe gesture-- yes, anywhere, and it basically just *******  blows up the pixels to HUGE *** size... very good for demonstrating to a bunch of visually-impaired students. Well... sometimes, it just DOESN'T work. In the bazillion times I've used this in my older pre-Lion system, this feature NEVER failed. In Lion, it fails quite a lot. It just decides to stop working. To get it working again, I have to cross my fingers, and then disable and re-enable the feature. Pain in the ***.

• Forgetful Finder

Remember that "Open this folder whenever you evoke the New Window command" thingy in the Finder preferences? Well... it works. Sorta. If you dual-boot to Windoze Bootcamp or to your Recovery Partition... it gets all *******  up and forgets the folder you nominated. In one weird-*** situation it forgot -- but then REMEMBERED later on. So *** is with the Finder these days??

• Versioning ****

As my introduction states, I'm having a **** of a time with versioning. It was slow in the beginning, yes, but now it's just slow to the point of being *******  USELESS. Give me back Save and SAVE AS any*******  time and save me more time. I'd rather lose my files to a power outage -- yes -- on a *******  laptop, than to OS X Lion chewing on my files. At least I know when to save my files, or rather, when NOT to.

• Finder/Mission Control Crash Part II

In this Finder/Mission Control Crash (I have a screen video) -- I dunno which because I forgot to try command-option-escape, All Desktops just disappear from view when evoking Mission Control. It's hard to tell because the Finder windows are still open and workable and so is Mission Control. It's just the "spaces" that are completely gone from Mission Control's view. This happened when trying to unlock a file for editing from the Finder. Wow. I wonder if this is also linked to versioning **** above?

• *******  Screen View

There's Full-screen view, and then there's ******* -screen view. This is when you try to use command-tab to go to an application that had one window in full-screen and one window not (such as Mail, where the Activity Window can get stuck on another screen) and you've closed one or the other, but command-tab just DOESN'T get you to the app anymore. In fact, even clicking on the app's icon in the Dock doesn't get you to the app anymore! ***?!? No wonder the name. To remedy this problem? YOU NEED to use Mission Control (that is, if it isn't *******  by one of the other bugs above) to search for the window of the app you want to get to.

So, that's what I have off the top o' my head right now (my full list is on an oldschool note pad I keep at work). I've even taken some screen videos of some problems. It ain't nice. But yeah... I have to be fair here. Apple makes great stuff, but they sure **** up on the first first few steps of a new product.

Dear all,

I encountered the same problems the moment I upgraded to Lion. my MBP does not shut down. all times when I want to shut down, it keeps the grey screen on and keeps spining the wheel.

Apple, is there an improvement coming out soon for this frustrating Lion :-(

Well i dont have time to read all 26 pages of this thread but I'm gonna jump on the I hate Lion bandwagon too..

1. Takes ages to start up and log in

2. Battery on my MBP is lasting around 1.5 hrs (when it should be 7-8ish)

3. Generally running REALLY slow

4. The finder organises my files into the today, this week blah blah.. but only on SOME folders and i could not for the life of me find how to organise by name! VERY annoying.

5. After waking, wireless says full signal but theres no connection

6. In the finder, files saved today werent in the 'today' section. They were down the bottom in the 'unknown' section even though the date modified was today.

7. Swipe between full screen apps doesnt work. It just goes to dashboard on the left, or my current app to the right... maybe im missing  something here cos all the other swipes work well.

8. pressing cmd + w to close a window often just doesnt work. esp in  Firefox

9. The last file i had open ALWAYS reopens in my apps even though i have closed the window and quit the app

Im sure theres more... I think i'll revert back to Snow Leopard! The fancy new features just arent worth the frustration of the failing ones!

I've had many of these same issues also. I'm lucky to get two hours out of my batter now. Wondering how hard it would be to revert back to Snow Leopard ...

1. Having major problems with Time Capsule - basically not doing the backups.  Lion now creates a local backup which gives you a false sense of security because Lion reports the backup is okay when the TC backup is not.  Apple support can't fix it

2. Playing videos is now impossible - the video plays for a few seconds then freezes.  This goes on and on and on and on ...  Apple support can't fix it.

3.  My 6 month old MacBook Pro is now runnign like a dog.

4. Getting loads of errors when running the verify permissions utility. 

My son's £300 Dell computer is workign better than my £2,500 Mac.  Well done Steve.  Job not well done.