Q: Problems With Lion (Found So Far).....

keats2010 wrote:

 

People who installed Lion as soon as it hit the App Store without checking the condition of their computers......not bothering to back up.....for anybody who uses a computer there are fairly simple guidelines to keep your macnine in good order.....probably your hard drive was ready to crash....if you never repair permissions.....push your storage space to the limit.

Oh right, so if anyone has any problems after installing Lion that's because they're dumb and don't know tons and tons of stuff about Macs, like you (think you) do. Thank you for explaining that.

Beware the buyer. Everything was written pretty clearly at the top section of the download site for Lion. Didn't you read it first?  I didn't say people were dumb Tom, but do you check the oil in your car, or just trust the car to look after itself? Or maybe you ride a bike because a car is too complicated and they keep updating them? Have you actually listened to any advice you have been given? All your posts are childish rantings. Noone will feel offended if you go back to windows. We will happily keep using a great new system in Lion. You'll get some money back on your Apple from ebay.

Cheer up

Keats

According to Mac World, the reason that Front Row is disabled (on our Minis) with Factory installed Lion Minis- 2.3  G for myself, is because of no Optical disk- which explains why the Factory Install.

Now, one problem I did find, is that as a Turbo Cad Mac Beta tester, that the (operating just fine) newer (version 5) TC is not seen by the apps listing, as shown.

Johnny

Keats

OK you did not use the words "people were dumb" but your post dose imply that if someone has a problem then it must be that they did not do what you sead in your post thay should have done. Becouse what you put in your post is obvious then a persion not doing it would be dumb.  So the implied meaning is that a persion with a problem with Lion is dumb and it is there fault.

What an incredibly patronising post from Keats2010.  I suspect this has been posted just to wind everyone up. Sad person. 

Oh come on you guys, can't you accept a bit of clear thinking and some criticism ? It can't do you any harm to reflect once in a while. Keats 2010 said some quite sensible things.

I admit it.

I must be dumb.

I had Snow Leopard and it worked fine and being a dumb *** bought Lion on the assumption that it would be the new and improved OSX.

I bought a product that did not hint that it might be a Beta and things would not be ok. (I know should have looked at the small print)

May be I did not look at what hardware I would need afterall I just presumed that an imac i7 with dual drives including SSD and 2TB and 8GB ram would be sufficient but I guess to refer to the analogy of keats I bought the wrong car and should have checked the oil. Oh I do have other macs too.

I am also the dumb *** who gave apple thousands of pounds with the idea that they were a more sensible option and they cared what their customers thought about their products.

I am also the really dumb *** who did not set up time machine so that I could reverse the apple error (Lion Osx) and so have no option to return to what I was happy with. (Snow Leopard)

I guess that I thought that trying to earn a living took precedence.

I wonder how much apple actually ask and discuss with their customers what they are looking for before creating a product and functionality. Or is it just a lab full of ideas suitable to the concepts of the lab rats not living in the real world.

It is a shame there was not a way they could do a trial and that way I would have realised that these upgrades were not for me. ( I have lion on several computers)

Yes I want the SAVE AS option too so that I can choose where to save the files or save them in several places. (Folders/Ext HD or USB)

I do not think it is intuative to have to duplicate a file and then choose to save in another file.

I do not think it is intuative to have to keep reconnecting to the web because it has chosen to forget your chosen connection.

I do not think it intuative that when you zoom in on a pages document and then choose to view it in full screen mode it would return to standard size. (Oh full screen feature is hardly innovation - just extremely late in coming)

Or may be these are just more dumb *** ideas.

I guess that is it for my dumb *** opinions.

But will look forward to any more car and bike maintenace tips should the garage ever be closed.

Regards,

Kirk

kirk59 wrote:

I am also the really dumb *** who did not set up time machine so that I could reverse the apple error (Lion Osx) and so have no option to return to what I was happy with. (Snow Leopard)

Kirk, I feel and share all of your pain.

But at least do the following:

From now on make a regular BOOTABLE CLONE (not a Time Machine backup - TM ****s) to a FireWire external drive (but not Western Digital). You can do this with either Carbon Copy CLoner or SuperDuper.

I don't see the problem with "TimeMachine"  (it my not be the best backup software in the would but..) I use TM.

I messed up and had to do a wipe of my HD and do a re-install (clean install).  I pluged in my USB 2Tb HDD and booted on the Snow Leopard DVD and did a "Restore System from TM" and it worked fine.

What is so "****s" about that Tom? 

P.S. make shoure if you do a system upgrade (Leopard to Snow Leopard to Lion) that you make a new TM file for each so that can role back to any of them using the right TM file for the OS you want to role back to. (Don't use a Leopard TM-file with Snow Leopard or a Snow Leopard TM-file with Lion or any cobination.)

TopSteve wrote:

 

I don't see the problem with "TimeMachine"  (it my not be the best backup software in the would but..) I use TM.

 

I messed up and had to do a wipe of my HD and do a re-install (clean install).  I pluged in my USB 2Tb HDD and booted on the Snow Leopard DVD and did a "Restore System from TM" and it worked fine.

 

What is so "****s" about that Tom?  

Lots of reasons but I'll give you just two:

1. I can see no purpose in constantly backing up absolutely everything you do, minute by minute, on the off-chance that somewhere you may make a mistake in one thing.

2. If you had had a BOOTABLE CLONE you wouldn't have needed to do any of what you just described.

1. TM dose not constantly backup absolutely everything minute by minute just the changes and even then it only dose it hourly if there has been any changes.  If one likes that or not is a matter of taste.  At least you have a backup better than none and it's free with the OS.

2. Booting a "BOOTABLE CLONE" and restoreing that would be just as hard/easey and involved/not as booting a "install DVD" and restoring from TM would it not?

Either way "BOOTABLE CLONE", "TM" or "Other backup solution" is better than none.

MPB painfully slow at everything spinning "beachball of death" alot cant hide programs takes an age to start up / shutdown. FCP very slow unusable at times.

Agree the safari opening what you had last time just annoying infact the whole update is annoying

put right.

Guys this is the worst, Apple gave me 2x my price refunded cuz this app simply ***.!

OK I did source out from my screenshot, that TC forgot to update the listing as V5 from the V4 , now, there are also lots-about - 8- crash reports sent from trying to import a DWG file sourced from AutoCAD (Windows), with no success, however, the Beta version (testing was successful in the import.

Johnny

I'm considering 'upgrading' to Lion, but I've read some of this thread and I'm thinking again.

I'm running SL 10.6.8 on my MBP 3.1 which curretly struggles with the spinning beach ball from time to time.

Would Lion kill me off completely, or do I stand a chance of system improvement with it?

Be gentle.

Thanks.