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Noleigator Level 1 Level 1

Since installing OS X Lion I have been required to enter my user password everytime I move a file from the desktop to a folder, from folder to folder, or from anywhere into the trash.  This is a nuisance.  How do I reconfigure the operating system, so that I no longer need to enter my password every time I simply wish to move a file from place to place?


MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.7)
Reply by RadRod on Aug 13, 2011 5:39 PM Helpful

Lion….I've got the same issues:

Moving a file requires a password.

Deleting a file requires a password.

Moving a Folder is denied because I don't have permission to "access some items".

I have the double "everyone" & "custom" privileges on a file info check.

 

Brand new MacBookPro 15"

I performed a clean install (with a 3 pass wide) last weekend.

 

Why?  because "Migration Assistant" brought over Another weird POA problem (In both Snow Leopard & Lion) where Safari would not load the certificate items in The Page for logging on to MobileMe Mail & Calendar.  The other MM services were fine.   Same for Amazon account page. That page was totally unformatted bunch of left justified blue hyperlinks.  When I logged onto my Mac with another user ID everything is fine.

There are others with the same problem…  Finally after a couple of case calls and visits to the Apple store  (don't say anything!)….  I had to wipe and install for peace of mid.

 

Sorry to digress……

 

After the wipe and bringing select files over from Time Capsule, I started seeing this error.

First I thought it was a Lion "feature" that I didn't understand….  Then I went looking and found this Post.

 

I suspect that some of my permission problems are from restoring Time Machine files.  Why.  Time Machine had recent backups of nothing from right after the install….  When I went to the date where my Doc's Pic's and whatnot were the Genie Bar on the right turned Purple and all the folders had the Red Circle minus sign in the lower right corner.  "Permission Problems"..  Plus I could not click to the file level.. only folders.

 

So folder by folder I brought the files in and changed privileges to make me the owner and have R&W.   My backup User ID and password were exactly the same when I migrated, but I did not change the "machine name".

 

The problem Does Not seem to happen with newly created documents.

I have to conclude that my issue is with files/folders restored from Time Machine.

 

I thought I had the backup covered twice.  On top of Time Machine, I formatted a LaCie 1T drive and Dropped all the files to the drive.

Get this… I should have noticed something was up with the LaCie when I was copying the files.  It just took too long… Hours.

 

After the reinstall, I went to the LaCie and it was JackedUp.  Folders were there but no files.  Un believable.  So Time Machine was my only source.

 

Because of all this &^()@#, I have not installed ANY 3rd party utilities. Zip.

No Microsoft Office. Zip.  Only my Adobe Photoshop & Lightroom, add-ons and Apple Pages.

 

I've been using Mac's a very long time.   In IT  before the Internet and the PC.  Today, going into the bowels …  root / terminal/ chon, etc… on my own…  Ain't my Bag.   Too many bad things can happen.  Gotta know Cold that it's going to fix and not add more issues.

 

So…. Once again.

I opened up a case today.  The call lasted 90 min., mostly with Sr. Advisors.

He was very diligent.

 

However the problem could not be resolved.

 

The call ended with a System dump for engineering along with many screen shots.

 

If I hear back, I'll report.

If anyone has more info, I'd love to read about it.

 

Thanks for reading.

 

Cheers.

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  • thomas_r. Level 7 Level 7
    expertise.macosx
    Mac OS X

    Sounds like you've got a permissions problem.  How did you upgrade?  Did you just install over your old SL system, or did you do what some are recommending and do a "clean install" by erasing the hard drive first?

  • Noleigator Level 1 Level 1

    I installed over my old SL system.

  • thomas_r. Level 7 Level 7
    expertise.macosx
    Mac OS X

    Okay, then the question is what happened?  Open up the Terminal and paste in the following command:

     

    ls -al ~

     

    Here's a somewhat trimmed-down list of what that command shows on my machine:

     

    drwxr-xr-x+ 32 thomas  staff   1088 Jul 20 15:20 .
    drwxr-xr-x   5 root    admin    170 Jul 20 15:11 ..
    -rw-r--r--@  1 thomas  staff  15364 Jul 20 21:42 .DS_Store
    drwx------   2 thomas  staff     68 Jul 24 16:06 .Trash
    drwxr-xr-x  11 thomas  staff    374 Jun  9 10:29 Applications
    drwx------+ 11 thomas  staff    374 Jul 24 16:06 Desktop
    drwx------+ 24 thomas  staff    816 Jun  7 16:31 Documents
    drwx------+  5 thomas  staff    170 Jul 14 11:25 Downloads
    drwx------@ 52 thomas  staff   1768 Jul 24 11:18 Library
    drwx------+  9 thomas  staff    306 Sep 11  2010 Movies
    drwx------+  7 thomas  staff    238 Feb  7 11:18 Music
    drwx------+ 23 thomas  staff    782 Feb  4 11:33 Pictures
    drwxr-xr-x+  5 thomas  staff    170 May 22  2010 Public
    drwxr-xr-x   4 thomas  staff    136 Feb 23 09:04 Shell
    drwxr-xr-x+ 14 thomas  staff    476 May 17 19:06 Sites

     

    What does it show for you?  Where it says "thomas" above, you should see your short username instead, but otherwise it should be mostly the same.

  • Noleigator Level 1 Level 1

    drwxr-xr-x+ 15 noleigator  staff    510 Jul  5 18:46 .

    drwxr-xr-x   6 root        admin    204 Jul 24 15:29 ..

    -rw-r--r--+  1 noleigator  staff      3 Jun 30 18:25 .CFUserTextEncoding

    -rw-r--r--@  1 noleigator  staff  21508 Jul 24 16:11 .DS_Store

    drwxr-xr-x+  3 noleigator  staff    102 Jul 24 16:18 .Trash

    drwxr-xr-x+  3 noleigator  staff    102 Jul  5 18:46 .cups

    drwxr-xr-x+ 55 noleigator  staff   1870 Jul 24 00:44 Desktop

    drwxr-xr-x+ 46 noleigator  staff   1564 Jul 22 23:11 Documents

    drwxr-xr-x+  4 noleigator  staff    136 Jul 22 23:01 Downloads

    drwxr-xr-x@ 44 noleigator  staff   1496 Jul 22 12:57 Library

    drwxr-xr-x+  5 noleigator  staff    170 Jul 24 00:54 Movies

    drwxr-xr-x+  6 noleigator  staff    204 Jul  1 13:31 Music

    drwxr-xr-x+ 32 noleigator  staff   1088 Jul 22 23:22 Pictures

    drwxr-xr-x+  6 noleigator  staff    204 Jul 24 00:56 Public

    drwxr-xr-x+  6 noleigator  staff    204 Jul 24 00:56 Sites

     

    As you can see, mine appears to be different, particularly the numerical values preceding my home folder, "noleigator".  What do you suggest?

  • John Hammer1 Level 4 Level 4

    Have you already tried launching Disk Utility and running a Repair Permissions?

  • SimplyMac Level 4 Level 4

    I would also advise repairing permissions.

     

    However, you haven't said what it was that you were trying to move/delete and from where.

     

    Files that will cause your Mac to ask for your password are any considered system files, that the average n00b should not be playing with in the first place. Mostly these lie outside of your home directory.

     

    The other ones that will prompt you, is anything downloaded from the Mac App Store. This behaviour was also present in Snow Leopard.

  • thomas_r. Level 7 Level 7
    expertise.macosx
    Mac OS X

    Repairing permissions won't fix user account permission problems.  Sounds like he's having trouble with files in his user account folders, like the Desktop and .Trash folders.  Of course, it can't hurt either, it's just not likely to help.

  • Noleigator Level 1 Level 1

    To: John Hammer1 - Yes, I have already tried repairing permissions using the disk utility, thank you.

     

    To: SimplyMac - I am trying to move anything and everything.  It doesn't matter what type of file I try to move.  Any file, whether it is a word document, PDF, application, system file, or any other associated extention, I simply cannot rearrange or delete anything without being prompted for my password.  I did not experience this difficulty until installing OS X Lion.  As I mentioned to John Hammer1 above, I have already tried repairing permissions, and I have tried reinstalling OS X Lion.  I appreciate your input though, thank you.

     

    To: Thomas A Reed - Thank you for continuing to assist me.  I have the feeling you might be able to lead me closer to a solution.  Please continue.

  • thomas_r. Level 7 Level 7
    expertise.macosx
    Mac OS X

    Hmm, that's puzzling.  The numbers that are different aren't what's really important.  The permissions (the parts that look like "drwxr-xr-x+"), owner and group all look fine.

     

    Well, despite that, I think it's probably worth trying the user permissions repair mentioned in the following post:

     

    Re: Corrupt user account / user folder

     

    However, since this was written for Leopard, I'm not sure whether it is still applicable in Lion.  Since there's no boot disk, you need to reboot from the Lion recovery partition that was created on your hard drive.  Reboot and hold down command and r together until you see the Apple logo, and that should do the equivalent of rebooting from the Leopard install disk.

     

    Once there, though, I'm not sure whether the same options will exist in the same place.  Let me know what you find.

  • Noleigator Level 1 Level 1

    Thank you, Thomas.  I will give it a try. 

     

    Just to be certain all bases were covered I went ahead and ran a permissions repair again.  During the verification phase the following information was displayed.  This did not occur the first time I verified and repaired my permissions.

     

    Group differs on “Library/Preferences/com.apple.alf.plist”; should be 80; group is 0.

    Warning: SUID file “System/Library/CoreServices/RemoteManagement/ARDAgent.app/Contents/MacOS/ARDAg ent” has been modified and will not be repaired.

     

    After 6:00 pm EST I will not be able to reply until tomorrow, but I would greatly appreciate your further assistance.

  • thomas_r. Level 7 Level 7
    expertise.macosx
    Mac OS X

    Errors like those are nothing to worry about.  See permissions messages you can safely ignore.

     

    I'll be watching this topic tomorrow, so let us know how it goes.  If it comes to a point where I can't help you further, I'll at least try to find someone else who can.

  • hallamp Level 1 Level 1

    Hi Noleigator. I am very much a novice when it comes to macs so please take this into consideration but I was having the same issue and I seemed to have resolved it very easily so thought I would share it in the hope that it solves your problem also.

     

    I too updated to lion over snow leopard and was having the issue of having to put in my password every time I wanted to delete something. This lead to me think that maybe the trash folder (hidden by default in lion on my system) didn't have the right permissions. I followed instructions online to view hidden files and folders on my mac and navigated to it. After right clicking and choosing get info I noticed that I only had system (read and write access) and everyone (read access) but not "username" (read and write access) I clicked the + symbol and added my username to the list and gave myself read and write access for the .trash folder. Finally I hid the hidden files and folders again After doing this I no longer see the request to verify with my password. Not sure why it wasnt working as it did in Snow Leopard but my problem has now gone away.

     

    Hope this helps you in some way. If I am trying to teach you how to suck eggs please ignore this but I thought what harm can it do to share my succcess.

     

    Good luck with solving your issue.

  • Noleigator Level 1 Level 1

    After days of frustration with the password verification issue I decided to go ahead and perform a clean installation of OS X Lion. 

     

    Prior to, I did follow your lead and attempt to reset the permissions using the OS X Lion recovery partition.  The menu item, "Reset Password", no longer exists in the utilities menu in the same form.  I was unable to find an alternative way to repair permissions and ACLs except by the same method applied using the Disk Utility application previously.  The additional Disk Utility permissions repair failed to combat the problem.

     

    Even after a clean install of OS X Lion, I am still prompted to enter my password anytime I move or delete files or folders.  However, thus far it is only occurring with files that were created to, saved to, downloaded to, or residing upon my desktop in the prior installation of OS X Lion that no longer exists on my Mac.  I am exploring this further.

     

    Until this permissions issue is resolved by another means, I believe your very first recommendation to perform a clean installation of OS X Lion is currently the only "easy" means of correcting this issue at this time.  I thank you, all of you, for your assistance with this issue.

  • Noleigator Level 1 Level 1

    To hallamp: Thank you for posting your advice to this thread.  In my case I found that trash permissions were appropriately set.  However, I would not have known this without following your guidance.  Thank you for your time.

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