Logic Pro, Logic Studio and Logic Express

Logic Studio is the bundle that contains the Logic Pro 9 application (along with MainStage, Soundtrack, WaveBurner and other assorted utilities).

For the difference between Pro and Express see http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4229

Hi,

Logic Pro is part of Logic Studio. Logic Studio is a set of programs: Logic Pro, Mainstage (kind of a live performance version of Logic) and Waveburner, a professional Audio CD mastering / burning tool. And some other programs... see http://www.apple.com/logicstudio/what-is/ .

Logic Express is a "light" version of Logic Pro, but it's certainly a professional tool, much more powerful than Garageband, for instance. Some differences between Pro and Express:

- Express does not support Surround mixing

- Exress doesn't come with the organ, e-piano and Sculpture instrument plugins

- Express doesn't have the Spacedesigner reverb

- Express has a smaller sample library than Pro

Apart from that, it's essentially the same program. I went from Express to Pro last year, and didn't notice the difference, apart from the extra Pro-goodies. The nice thing is that if you start with Express, and upgrade later, you pay the same total amount as when you buy Pro right away. So, if your new to DAW's I'd go for Express first. And try Garageband first... for "light" users it can often offer enough functionality, ad it's simpler in use than Logic.

ANOTHER QUESTION (Sorry)..... My Macbook with Logic 8 on it has completely died! i am buying a new Macbook Pro today but can't find my Logic 8 discs so i will start from scratch with Logic 9 on my new laptop. Is the "Logic Pro 9" (v.9.1.8) in the App Store for $209.99 the complete studio and equivilent to my recently deceased logic 8 with all instrulments, plug-ins etc.? can i download this without having a previous version on my new laptop or is this just an update for existing Logic 9 users?

in short, what's the difference between the logic 9 for $209 on the App store VERSUS $750 for the physical box on the Apple website?

Is the physical box still on the Apple website? As far as I know, the download version of Logic 9 is the complete version, including all content (it's a huge download). However, I heard that the apps Mainstage and Waveburner that were part of the Logic Studio bundle are not included?! Bottom line: it's a heck of a deal :-)

I think the physical box would include Mainstage and WaveBurner.

Mainstage is available through the App Store. WaveBurner is no longer available, except in the retail box (as far as I know).

What I want to know is, will my old Logic Express 9 files open in Logic Pro?

I don't mind paying for the $200 upgrade to Logic Pro (although I'd prefer to have the actual disc, not just a download) as long as I can still open all my old work in the new version.

Is the layout of logic pro basically the same? How much of a new program am I going to need to learn?

Don't wordt, anything that opeens in Logic Express will open in Logic Pro. And the UI is almost identical.

Logic Pro basically has additional Instruments, plugins land functions.

icarus320 wrote:

Is the layout of logic pro basically the same? How much of a new program am I going to need to learn?

You might not notice a difference in the layout.. or much else. Logic Express 9 IS Logic minus a few high end instruments, and effects. Plus you get all of the jam pack series... loops and instrument presets...etc.

Hello Jaap,

Logic studio is niet meer in de store zo te zien.

Ik heb logic express, en dacht over te schakelen naar X, maar naar het schijnt, werk X alleen met Mountain Lion en zouden de klanken op de I Cloud zitten, dus niet echt in je computer,en moet je steeds aangesloten zijn op internet volgens ik gehoord heb.

Voor de muziekstijl die ik beöefen zijnde Jazz, Bossa en die dingen vind ik de Pro X versie niet echt een meerwaarde.Wat ik wel mis is de reverb die in Logic Pro zit.

Ook aangezien Pro X zeer regelmatig schijnt te crashen, wegens nieuw, wil ik toch zeker nog een jaartje wachten. Logic express en logic pro zijn muurvast.Wat misschien (volgens de demos) een voordeel of verbetring zouden zijn in de nieuwe X versie zijn de editerings mogelijkheden,en dat zou een pak aan tijdwinst zijn.

Misschien weet jij meer omtrent Logic pro X.

Hartelijke groeen vanuit Spanje

Jos

Hi Jos,

I'll reply in english, so others can read it, too :-)

Personally, I like Logic X a lot. I found a couple of small buggs, but no big troubles so far. I used Logic X a lot the last 2 weeks for a big project, and had only one crash. But Logic X tries to save during a crash, and this worked like a charm. After restarting Logic, I had the option to open the autosave, and nothing was lost.

I wonder if putting the sounds on iCloud would be a workable solution. For instance, the new (great) drum kits are. Ery large, and take my harddisk appr. 10 seconds to load. From internet that would probably take a couple of minutes?! Besides that, I doubt if it's technically possible. I would really imstall all samples on the harddisk. About Spacedesigner: yes, it's really good, but I also use Apples own AUMatrixReverb a lot, which I like better then the built in Logic Express reverbs.

My main arguments to go from LE9 to LPX would be:

- Flex Pitch

- Drummer & new Drum Kits

- cool extra samples, e.g. classical strings

- track stacks

- the Epiano and B3 organ

Just my two cents...

Regards, Jaap

Hello Jaap,

Thanks for the reply.

I will do my best in English !!!

Well a friend of mine told me that Logix Pro X is NOT completely in your computer, like Logic Pro for example. He pretended that a part of X is in ICloud, what for me was very strange !!!!

Also he on this forum I have read that there are several crashes with X.

I use also Garritan, and they recommend a HD of 7200 rpm instead of the conventional 5600 rpm.

Maybe that this is a reason why they are more crashes with X ,who knows?

I was planned to buy a Macbook Air, which seems to be very fast because no HD.

Indead, X has some new nice things as you mentioned.

Btw,where do I find the AUMatrix Reverb?

What concerns the Epiano, I like also very much, but I ask myself if it not not the original Epiano,manipulated by Spacedesigner.

Flex Pitch OK,

Drum kits also nice,but I only discoverd "brushes" in Garritan, and also use mostly strings, *****,Oboe etc,,,Harp (cool) from Garritan.

In anyway, thanks a lot for your advice.

Wish you a fine week-end !

Regards,Jos

Hi,

I don't think your friend is right on this. When you install Logic X, only the most essential part will be downloaded. After that you open Logic X, and from within the program you can download all the other content. Logic will look if you already have Logic 9 content on your harddisk, so it won't download files that are already present. So, after all is downloaded, all files are on your harddisk, just like Logic 9. By the way, Logic 9 will still be available after installing Logic X.

Whether you will experience crashes will be very hard to prodect, because these will be caused by unforeseen combinations of your computer, audio interfaces, maybe even other hardware, kernel extensions etcetera. If you wait for a couple of months, updates of Logic X will probably have less crashes. As said, on my computer it's just as solid as Logic 9.

Garittan will probably advise a fast harddisk to prevent complaints when people are pushing the plugin to the edge. I would expect that it's not a black/white story.

The AUMatrixreverb can be found in any audio plugin slot completely at the bottom: Audio Units > Apple > AUMatrixReverb.

About the Epiano: in Logic Express there is only the Garageband Epiano, I think. Logic Pro 9 had a great ePiano that they gave a new name and changed a bit in Logic X. Both very nice.

Yes, you may be right, not too many drums with brushes in Logic X, I think. Or does anybody else know where to look??

Kind regards,

Jaap

Thanks Jaap !!!

Btw, I looked in Logic Express 9, and it does not appear in Audio Units....maybe only in Logic Pro 9.

Also good new that Logic 9 stays active !!

Thanks for all the info Jaap.

Kind regards,

Jos

Hi,

I found the AUMatrix Reverb !!!!

Thanks

Kind regards

Jos

Hello Jaap,

Forgot to ask (excuse me please).

What about the sound library ? X versus Pro 9

what about Loops?

I ask this ,because I am very bad with computers and or samplers, and creating my onw sound or instrument with a sampler is not for me, ( to stupid for that,jejejeje)

Have a nice day

Greetings

Jos