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Why I love Lion...

Full screen apps are great, but until everybody else's apps are compliant, it suck using something like Firefox or Chrome. Once they are open, the desktop goes away. Losing my old Office X suite. I didn't really like using Evil Empire apps. Having my early 2008 MBP not wake from sleep. I really need to get some yardwork done. Having my Mac not connect to my wifi network. I should really work on my novel. Slow, sluggish web pages. And my favorite (and my wife's too), SPINNING BEACH BALLS. Always spinning beachballs. Reminds me that we haven't been to the coast in a while.

This OS is not ready for primetime. As a matter of fact, it seems buggier than most beta software I have used.

15" MacBook Pro Unibody and 20" iMac 2.4, + wife's 13" MBP, Mac OS X (10.6), I met Steve in 1976. He used my Kloss NovaBeam projector.

Posted on Jul 30, 2011 2:08 PM

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Jul 30, 2011 2:46 PM in response to Norwestie

I came to this forum to get help but after reading all the other complaints I thought my post would perhaps bring a little smile to others suffering the same issues I have. Before I installed Lion, I ran Disk Utility and repaired the permissions. After the install, I did the same. I followed the same procedure on my wife's MBP. Both suffer from the same issues.

I don't understand the comment about being vocal or productive. When I start a thread, it is the other members that are productive.

Jul 30, 2011 3:04 PM in response to MacJoseph

A clean install is great if all you do is surf the web and read email with the included apps, for those of us with dozens and more of third party apps, a clean install means a week's worth of work to re-install those apps. My general procedure with OS X upgrades (and Windows too for that matter) is "don't". I live with the OS that the unit comes with until I retire the box. Upgrades typically break things. I'll get Lion when I get a new computer. (I have Macs now with Tigre, Leopard and Snow Leopard, they all work with each other and I NEVER upgrade outside of the base OS.) It isn't that Apple does poor work, it's just that the test matrix gets out of hand when you consider all the third party apps and drivers!


OTOH, the Migration Assistant is awesome. That pulled my environments over and most of the apps just worked fine whenI went from an old G4 laptop to a Intel Duo iMac! That is my OS migration path, NewBox + Migration Assistant. No pain.


IMO,

DLC

Jul 30, 2011 3:19 PM in response to Dennis Clark1

Clean install and Migration Assistant from a Time Machine backup works just as well as your "NewBox + Migration Assistant" situation.


I myself am not your average "surf the web and read email with the included apps" person, in fact I run a great number of added applications.


Its all a matter of perspective I suppose.


I'm not proposing a clean install for everyone, merely for the users that encountered problems after upgrading.


EE

Jul 30, 2011 3:30 PM in response to ebinellis

Joseph,


I'm a new recruit to "Time Machine", which is totally cool, so I have no experience with using it on an upgrade, in fact, I'm kind of surprised that this would work and not smash the new OS software. That is food for thought!


My one experience with a OS upgrade was with my iBook G4 going from Panther to Tigre. I needed to re-install some system software (iLife) because the upgrade did not install the correct stuff. That was on a brand new box that I really wanted the newest stuff on when I got it.


This is not an Apple bash (I saved that for an iPhoto sorting rant, sorry everyone) because I've been on the Mac since 1985, and just because I love the platform doesn't mean it doesn't have some warts! The Mac is the ideal fusion of UNIX and an GUI based user experience.


DLC

Aug 2, 2011 4:55 PM in response to Norwestie

Norwestie


To do a clean install you'll need to re-download the Lion installer. To do that open App Store and at the top where you see 'purchased' hold your option key and click on 'purchased.' You'll see you're able to download the Lion installer. When the installer finishes downloading quit the installer and it will leave it in your applications folder. You'll need to make a bootable DVD or USB here areinstructions to do that. Once you make your bootable device boot from it and follow the installation prompts. Reformat your drive and do a clean install it's as simple as that. A clean install is a lot better than doing the upgrade. Hope this helps.


Joseph

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