Logic 9's UI extremely laggy - any fixes?

I've been a pretty happy Logic user since 2004, but lately version 9 has been really cheezing me off. It seems that whenever I'm playing my current project, the user interface becomes completely unresponsive to key commands and mouse clicks, which will be delayed for many seconds, or ignored entirely.


This is a fresh install of Logic Pro 9.1.4, 32-bit, on one of the new Mac minis (dual 2.7GHz i7, 4GB RAM, stock 500GB hard drive), with a PreSonus FireStudio Project. However, this was also happening on my previous system, a 2008 15" unibody MacBook Pro. It was happening a little bit on Snow Leopard but it's gotten much worse under Lion. My MacBook had aftermarket RAM (8GB) and an aftermarket SSD, but everything in the Mini is stock.


It's happening even if I only have one or two tracks, although it seems to be worse if I have any of the various metering plugins running and open, or ChanEQ with the analyzer turned on. I wonder if maybe those plugins aren't handling UI updates correctly, or something.


Just to be clear, I have absolutely no third-party AudioUnits installed, and it's neither a CPU nor an I/O issue (both gauges are pretty much empty, and Activity Monitor shows Logic as taking about 10% of one CPU), and yet it takes anywhere from 3-10 seconds for a simple mouse click to go through.


This is getting EXTREMELY frustrating, especially since the lag seems to always happen at the worst moments (i.e. I'm trying to turn down the volume on a track which suddenly got really loud, and the lack of responsiveness means my ears get blasted and I have to take a break for them to recover before I can start mixing again).


Has anyone else been experiencing this and found a workaround? Is anyone at Apple even paying attention to these issues? I feel like it's the same problem that was being discussed in this thread, which was never resolved: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/2396951


Message was edited by: robert113

Mac mini, Mac OS X (10.7), 2.7GHz i7, 4GB RAM, 500GB HDD

Posted on Jul 30, 2011 7:31 PM

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Oct 11, 2012 8:44 AM in response to Alexander One

I got DEFINITIVE answers from a high-up Apple AR support. He said it is not a Logic issue, but a Lion and Mountain Lion Core Audio issue, and mentioned that the engineers are "working on it day and night to fix it."


He also listed two possible fixes, while the team is working on a fix for Mountain Lion. Here's what he wrote:


1) Downgrade to the Snow Leopard OS until this is fixed. I know this is a complete annoyance to hear, but truthfully a lot of people are doing it and it's solving the problem for them.


2) Do a clean install of iLife. This is also solving the problem for a lot of people, and is quite a bit less of a pain since most of the professional Logic audio community doesn't use Garageband in the first place. For some reason, a clean install of iLife (and really, Garageband) is doing the trick. There is some sort of conflict happening between Garageband and the Lion/MT Lion OS that is causing updated iLife files to not load properly. A fresh/clean install of iLife (essentially, back to the older version found in the Lion installer) is doing the trick in most cases. If he chooses this route, please make sure to tell him NOT to update iLife to it's most current version release as this sis where things seem to go wrong. The original download version from the Lion installer is the one he'll want to use, if possible.


One note on this- Some users are finding it difficult to extract the iLife installer data from the Lion installer itself since Lion was our first App Store downloadable OS. But, if he goes to the installer (might have to redownload from App Store) and right-clicks on the installer file, select 'Show Package Contents', and the installer data for iLife can be found inside."


Hopefully that helps, at least in the meantime. I unfortunately can't install Snow Leopard on my 2012, Mac Pro but it's good to know there's one more thing I can try. Anyone know where I can find the Lion installer?

Oct 11, 2012 11:55 AM in response to Fredo Viola


1) Downgrade to the Snow Leopard OS until this is fixed. I know this is a complete annoyance to hear, but truthfully a lot of people are doing it and it's solving the problem for them.



2) Do a clean install of iLife. This is also solving the problem for a lot of people, and is quite a bit less of a pain since most of the professional Logic audio community doesn't use Garageband in the first place. For some reason, a clean install of iLife (and really, Garageband) is doing the trick. There is some sort of conflict happening between Garageband and the Lion/MT Lion OS that is causing updated iLife files to not load properly. A fresh/clean install of iLife (essentially, back to the older version found in the Lion installer) is doing the trick in most cases. If he chooses this route, please make sure to tell him NOT to update iLife to it's most current version release as this sis where things seem to go wrong. The original download version from the Lion installer is the one he'll want to use, if possible.


1) cant, got one of these MBPrs. An answer or suggetsion to boot from a diff partition with SL on it, is infuriating stupid. Apple, tell me again why I bought this machine, Im forgetting very quickly.


2) iLife clean install because of Garageband? Ok, but how would that affect Logic graphic GUI? what about people that are having this issue that don't have iLife? Anyone have this problem with no iLife?


That said, if anyone tries that fix though, please post your experience, Im open to anything here.


Good though man, thank you for taking the time for that. Let's hope they're not just trying to stall us with this "its our TOP priority"... I would love to know since when it has been that top priority though.

Oct 14, 2012 10:00 AM in response to Fredo Viola

I tried installing iLife '11 WITHOUT updating it to the latest. The problem wasn't as markant as before, but still occured in a heavy project.


I am now going to update iLife '11 to the latest version to see if that helps.


I couldn't either figure which **** file, from the Lion DVD, it was I chould use to install it...

VERY unclear!


Anyways, keep testing boys and girls!

Oct 14, 2012 10:35 PM in response to Nicolas Stenberg-Daniil

Not a chance do I believe that iLife or Garagebang has anything to do with Logic or this issue. I'm actually even MORE worried now in thinking maybe they are chasing the wrong issue.


Just spoke with a tech, and he told me don't expect this will be fixed until 2013 now because now the whole tech team have been re-sourced to work on Apple Maps for iOS.


.....just kidding. Imagine!

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