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  • MlchaelLAX Level 4 Level 4 (1,970 points)

    Be sure to print out all the information so that it will remain available to you in the future from here and the links...

  • petermac87 Level 5 Level 5 (6,380 points)

    asmystiq wrote:

     

    Thank you MIchael, I appreciate the answer and the links. I will try your suggestions and will let you know if there are any issues!

    Did your Mac ship with Lion? If not then the easiest way is just to run Snow Leopard on a seperate partition. I have a 60GB SL Partition which I used for programs which required Rosetta, until I updated or replaced the old, out of date PPC programs and now have not used it for about four months, as Lion is running great. But this was by far the easiest way to go about it if your Mac will do this.

     

    Good Luck

     

    Pete

  • MlchaelLAX Level 4 Level 4 (1,970 points)

    As is true in many ways in life, these two solutions require a choice to be made:

     

    Either more work up front and easier to implement on a day to day basis (setting up SL in Parallels once and then running Snow Leopard concurrently with Lion); or

     

    Less work up front, but more work every day (partioning the hard disk and installing SL but then having to do the "Boot Camp" reboot EVERY time you want to change from Lion to SL and back...

     

    My solution has the first virtue and your solution has the second...

  • asmystiq Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Thank you for the suggestion, Pete. I already have SL installed on a separate partition, though, as MIchael's, my preference is to run it from a virtual environment, even if it takes more work upfront to set it up. I'm going to give that a try and if all runs smoothly, will release the current SL partition to utilize as available space for Lion.

     

    As a side note: Nothing fresher, aside from cool water on a hot day, than competent advice and working links. Thank you both.

  • petermac87 Level 5 Level 5 (6,380 points)

    asmystiq wrote:

     

    Thank you for the suggestion, Pete. I already have SL installed on a separate partition, though, as MIchael's, my preference is to run it from a virtual environment, even if it takes more work upfront to set it up. I'm going to give that a try and if all runs smoothly, will release the current SL partition to utilize as available space for Lion.

     

    As a side note: Nothing fresher, aside from cool water on a hot day, than competent advice and working links. Thank you both.

    Yes, both choices would be good. I personally went with the two partitions as I had very few PPC programs and now have none, given that the Virtual Environment may not be possible in the upcoming Mountain Lion and beyond. If Virtualisation of SL has been a loophole in the short lived Lion OSX then it may very well be closed in all future OSXs which is why I chose to go with upgrading the programs rather than trying to get them to work in an unstable way.

     

    Good Luck

     

    Pete

  • MlchaelLAX Level 4 Level 4 (1,970 points)

     

    petermac87 wrote:

     

    Yes, both choices would be good. I personally went with the two partitions as I had very few PPC programs and now have none, given that the Virtual Environment may not be possible in the upcoming Mountain Lion and beyond. If Virtualisation of SL has been a loophole in the short lived Lion OSX then it may very well be closed in all future OSXs which is why I chose to go with upgrading the programs rather than trying to get them to work in an unstable way...

    I would think it goes without saying that upgrading programs to their Intel versions is the first preference of every Mac user using Lion. 

     

    Some, for various reasons, are obviously unable to upgrade some of their software at this time...  I suspect that asmystiq falls into this latter category.

     

    Pete, I am glad that you were able to get rid of those Rosetta-requiring games that your kids played...

     

    Now you can turn your attention to those who need your advice in a non-Rosetta related way.  I'll miss your helpful advice in this area. Don't forget to turn in your badge...

     

    Regards, Michael

  • petermac87 Level 5 Level 5 (6,380 points)

    MlchaelLAX wrote:

     

     

    Pete, I am glad that you were able to get rid of those Rosetta-requiring games that your kids played...

     

    Now you can turn your attention to those who need your advice in a non-Rosetta related way.  I'll miss your helpful advice in this area.

     

    Regards, Michael

    No, I have an iMac set up with Snow Leopard for the kids now.........but thanks for taking such an interest in my private life, but that's creepy and I would prefer you kept out of it. Thank you.

     

    As for helping people with Rosetta problems, I have been using Macs all my life, so I fail to see how you are the only one allowed to give expert advice on this subject, given you have a zero score on your helpful answers, despite your many, many posts on this virtualisation set up.

     

    Again thanks for the unhealthy interest in my children's habits, but no thanks

     

    Pete

  • MlchaelLAX Level 4 Level 4 (1,970 points)

    You either think I am clairvoyant or forget that you posted this information to me in another thread...

  • asmystiq Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Michael, you are correct in your suspicion that I cannot upgrade all of my PPC apps to Lion at this time, which is why I am implementing the SL virtualization solution.

     

    Pete, I am hoping by the time I am ready to upgrade to Mountain Lion, I won't have the need for the legacy support of PPC apps. If I do, then I'll probably keep a Lion partition (with Parallels running SL) next to ML.

     

    Thanks again,

    Sasha

  • petermac87 Level 5 Level 5 (6,380 points)

    I know I posted it Michael, but being irrelevant to the reply to this poster I do not see what possessed you to have to drag it out and repost it. Please avoid contact with me in these threads. Too creepy.

     

    Pete

  • MlchaelLAX Level 4 Level 4 (1,970 points)

    petermac87 wrote:

     

    Yes, both choices would be good. I personally went with the two partitions as I had very few PPC programs and now have none...

     

    petermac87 wrote:

     

    I know I posted it Michael, but being irrelevant to the reply to this poster I do not see what possessed you to have to drag it out and repost it. Please avoid contact with me in these threads. Too creepy.

     

     

    Pete

     

    Feel free to look up the definition of "irrelevant."

     

    If you review our so-called "contact" with each other you will see it always follows this pattern:

     

    1.  A poster will indicate a problem with not being able to run a non-Intel application in Lion (usually because of the absence of Rosetta);

     

    2.  I suggest the Snow Leopard in Parallels 7 within Lion solution (the "Virtualization method"), usually linking back to my September 28, 2011 post, where I first pointed out how to implement this solution; and

     

    3.  Your followup comments to either me or the poster, attempting to disparage this method in one way or another.

     

    You repeat this pattern over, and over, and over again; there is no point in my posting the links to them here!

     

    In THIS very thread, you went out of your way to post an additional message, suggesting that the Virtualization method was "trying to get them to work in an unstable way" when you: (a) have NO experience with the Virtualization method, (b) have consistently criticized the Virtualization method and (c) have no evidence that substantiates your claim that the Virtualization method is unstable.

     

    There are users of non-Intel applications that need to run them with Rosetta in Lion.  You now admit that YOU are no longer one of them, yet you consistently go out of your way to criticize the suggestion of the Virtualization method as a solution.

     

    Why must you continue to interfere with a working solution to someone else's problems?  I find it mind-boggling!  The answer has some connection to your insistence on calling me "names."

  • babowa Level 7 Level 7 (27,380 points)

    According to para 2.2 of the ToU:

     

    Be polite. Everyone should feel comfortable reading Submissions and participating in discussions. Apple will not tolerate flames or other inappropriate statements, material, or links. Most often, a "flame" is simply a statement that is taunting and thus arbitrarily inflammatory. However, this also includes those which are libelous, defamatory, indecent, harmful, harassing, intimidating, threatening, hateful, objectionable, discriminatory, abusive, vulgar, obscene, pornographic, sexually explicit, or offensive in a sexual, racial, cultural, or ethnic context.

     

    and para 2.3:

     

    Post constructive comments and questions. Unless otherwise noted, your Submission should either be a technical support question or a technical support answer.

     

    Because of your posts, I no longer feel comfortable with this thread. Your post from approx. 6:30 pm was removed promptly; unfortunately I read it before reporting it.

     

    Kindly stop now unless you have a constructive comment.

  • petermac87 Level 5 Level 5 (6,380 points)

    MlchaelLAX wrote:

     

    petermac87 wrote:

     

    Yes, both choices would be good. I personally went with the two partitions as I had very few PPC programs and now have none...

     

    petermac87 wrote:

     

    I know I posted it Michael, but being irrelevant to the reply to this poster I do not see what possessed you to have to drag it out and repost it. Please avoid contact with me in these threads. Too creepy.

     

     

    Pete

     

    Feel free to look up the definition of "irrelevant."

     

    If you review our so-called "contact" with each other you will see it always follows this pattern:

     

    I will find no such thing. You are trolling, I have seen your other posts. You are ignorant towards legalities and the changes within and now you chime in on a personal level, without yet helping anybody out. You believe in your method and that you can drag up any thread to attempt to insert relevance to your claims.

     

    I repeat, stay in your Rosetta world and stay out of attempts to bring up previous posts on my children in to attempt to disparage me. I have seen your kind here over the years and you will be gone as technology from Apple outgrows your ability to use it.

     

    Rosetta has gone, but you are like the lone fool on the hill calling for the final challange. "We want Our My Rosetta back!"

     

    Happy Computing

     

    Bye

  • MlchaelLAX Level 4 Level 4 (1,970 points)

    My post is both contructive and informative and quite honestly, I will not allow being called creepy to sit unanswered.

     

    I am sorry you chose the wrong participant to report...

  • MlchaelLAX Level 4 Level 4 (1,970 points)

    asmystiq wrote:

     

    ...my preference is to run it from a virtual environment, even if it takes more work upfront to set it up. I'm going to give that a try and if all runs smoothly, will release the current SL partition to utilize as available space for Lion..

    Let me know if you need any assistance in your installation!

     

    It seems I cannot link you to Apple to purchase Snow Leopard, as that post was deleted as "advertising!"