6 Replies Latest reply: Feb 28, 2012 2:21 PM by Jalpuna
Jalpuna Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)

Please help me love my iCal again.  How can I set it up so that the default for a new event is an hour long instead of EIGHT?!?  Why on earth does iCal think a new event should be eight hours long?  It's especially annoying at night.  Add a new event at 9PM and iCal sets an end for 5AM and rolls it into the next day, which means I have to change the end time and change the end date every time I add a new event.


Seriously, who designed this thing?  Here's a perfect example of bad design (which, coming from Apple is shocking!): In the menu, click New Event.  Does iCal create a new event?  No.  It draws a box arrow pointing to the big plus sign.  Are we sure Microsoft didn't design this thing?


I'm a diehard Mac Guy for over 17 years.  But I must say, I'm disappointed with some aspects of Lion.  Yikes.  (sorry...  I needed to vent!)

Mac mini, Mac OS X (10.7), I heart my Apogee Duet.
  • Colin Robinson Level 6 Level 6 (8,305 points)

    There's something wrong with your iCal that I don't know how to fix because my New Events are always 1 hour long:

    Screen Shot 2011-08-06 at 11.23.54.png


    The bad design you refer to is this?

    Screen Shot 2011-08-06 at 11.23.20.png

    That is just allowing you to enter in plan English like 'Supper on Sunday at 6pm' which translates into the new event posted above.



    Colin R.

  • Jalpuna Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)

    I probably should have noted that I'm using iCal in the month view.  Maybe that's why my iCal thinks every new event is eight hours long?  The previous iCal didn't behave this way.


    And, yes, a menu item titled New Event that opens a box where I can create a new event rather than actually creating a New Event is bad design.  It adds extra steps.  It feels like a Microsoft thing where you click on something and then get asked if that's really what you wanted to do.  When I click New Event, I want a new event to open so I can input the details including calenrar, alarm, repeating data, notes, etc.  Sure, if I wanted a quick option, I'd go for the + sign to add one.  But when it comes to having to change calendars or add extra info, making me go through extra steps is poor design.


    There's a lot to like in the new iCal, but pushing the app away from design simplicity for VISUAL simplicity is poor design for a desktop OS app.  On a three inch screen like the iPhone, it makes perfect sense.  It's brilliant, in fact.  But on a desktop OS?  I completely understand the idea of merging iOS with OS X, but a motorcycle is not a tractor trailer even though they both have engines.  To treat them as such is poor design.


    Another example: in iCal, it's easy to hide calendars you may not need to see.  That's a great feature.  In the previous iCal, there was a pane that showed which calendars were visible and which were not.  Now, if you're looking at a month, you have no way of seeing that there may also be more events that are hidden without clicking the calendars for a popup to display which are visible and which are not.  I'm no Mac basher.  I have a series of the black & white "Think Different" prints framed and hanging on my walls.  I love Apple, but the new iCal is poor design.

  • guff.se Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    No answer to this still?

    This is really annoying, to have to shorten _every_freaking_event_ to 1 hour after i create them.

  • Jalpuna Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)

    The simple answer is, sadly, that you have to add a time for every event as you type it (type "iHate iCal at 10am" to see what I mean, if you haven't discovered this "feature" yet).  If you add an event and then click it to open the editor to change it, you'll end up with a stupidly long event to change.  If you view iCal in month view, you simply have to add a ton of info as you type.  And if you want to change the calendar (from home to work, etc), you have to wade in through a bunch of needless clicks.


    iCal is so brilliantly designed that it ended up being poorly designed.  Calendars are hidden.  Heck, they're not even calendars, really.  They're CATEGORIES of events.  Regardless, they're hidden, so, there's no way to see which are active at a glance without first clicking into them.  That's poor design.  Changing an all day event to a timed event turns it into an 8 hour long event.  Poor design.


    iCal could be phenomenal if Apple opened it up to developer plugins.  Plugins could allow users to change the default behavior of iCal to suit their own tastes.  Instead, we're stuck with iCal as it is.

  • guff.se Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Are you sure it is like this for every Lion user?

    It is not just a bug for a few people?

  • Jalpuna Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)

    I'm not sure what "this" you're referring to.


    iCal in Lion is designed to add all day events unless you add a time while typing the event out.


    Type "Lunch at 1pm" -- this gives you an event titled Lunch that lasts from 1 to 2PM.  iCal sets the time automatically.


    Type "Lunch" -- this gives you an all-day event titled lunch.  If you edit the event and un-click the All Day option, it becomes an 8 hour long event.


    It's not a bug.  It's a "feature" (and I hate it).


    I assume this is true in day / week views.  I only use iCal in month view.