iPhone unlocked by carrier, will Apple replace with an unlocked phone in the event of a warranty replacement?

Hi there.


I use an iPhone with the Canadian provider, Fido. I purchased the phone from Fido and signed up for a 3 year contract in order to recieve the phone at the reduced price. I understand that Fido performs a carrier lock on the phone when you sign up in this way so that the phone can only be used on the Fido network.


At the moment I am in the process of cancelling my contract with Fido and switching over to another provider in Canada. After doing some research, I found out that Fido offers a service where they will unlock your phone from their network when you finish your contract, for a fee. Since I am cancelling my contract and paying the early cancellation penalty, my contract will be satisfied and I will be eligible for the unlock service. My plan is to have my iPhone unlocked by Fido so that I can use the phone with my new provider.


My question is this: If I have my phone legitimately unlocked by my provider, will Apple send me an unlocked phone in the event that their is a hardware failure covered under warranty, and I need a replacement iPhone? All my previous replacement iPhones have been, to my knowledge, locked by Apple back onto my provider before they are sent to me. But, it would be awfully annoying if a replacement phone came to me locked onto an old network that I no longer use.


Any information would be greatly appreciated! Thanks.

iPhone 4, iOS 4.3.3

Posted on Aug 6, 2011 12:44 PM

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Aug 7, 2011 6:51 PM in response to Azaadkb

Thank guys, good to know.


So you say Apple will replace the iPhone in the same state that it receives the defective unit, whether that be locked or unlocked. Does this only apply if the unlock was done by a carrier after the phone has been offically released from the contract? Does the carrier communicate with Apple to let them know that a phone has been legitimately unlocked by them and not some illegal 3rd party process?

Apr 11, 2015 11:40 AM in response to royalts84

Are you sure about this? I thought so too, but when I received my replacement iPhone 6, it was locked again.


I bought a carrier locked iPhone. Then it was replaced with another carrier iPhone. This second phone (first replacement) was then unlocked. Later the unlocked iPhone was replaced with a third phone (second replacement). To my disappointment the second iPhone replacement is locked.


The Authorized Service center said that Apple made a mistake and should unlock it remotely ASAP. Apple Support however, says that iPhones are replaced with specifications of the originally initially purchased iPhone. If the original was unlocked, they would replace it with unlocked, but if it was locked then replaced with a locked and then unlocked by carrier. The carrier should be contacted again to unlock future replacements. I know it sounds ridiculous and illogical.


If an iPhone has been unlocked (obviously by a carrier), why would you replace it with a locked iPhone and ask the customer to contact his carrier and request another unlock for the replacement iPhone? So inefficient and could be a problem if the carrier allows only one unlock per year per line like most do, or if you are no longer a customer of that carrier.


Interestingly I found the following on Apple's "Hardware Warranty". Retrieved from: https://www.apple.com/legal/warranty/products/ios-warranty-document-us.html):

"Following warranty service your Apple Product or a replacement device will be returned to you as your Apple Product was configured when originally purchased, subject to applicable updates.”


What I understand from this is that replacements will be configured exactly as the originally purchased including any updates made to it. I believe unlock is considered an update.


Apple Support argues that the second device was unlocked (updated), but the original (initial / first) device was not unlocked. Therefore, I should deal with my old carrier to unlock this one.


How insanely ridiculous is that???

Apr 11, 2015 12:15 PM in response to qahroub

The locking and unlocking of a wireless profile is completely at the discretion of the carrier. When you go through the activation process, the device reaches out to the carrier network and grabs your activation profile. If you profile is unlocked, it will be unlocked on the device. If your wireless profile is locked, it is up to the carrier to unlock it. If the profile is unlocked, but the device is locked, then a restore of the iOS will update the profile back to unlocked.


Apple doesn't track wireless profiles, why would they? It's none of their concern whether you're locked to ATT or Verizon, or whoever. They only manage and support the hardware and software of the iphone. NOT your wireless profile.

Apr 11, 2015 12:40 PM in response to qahroub

How insanely ridiculous is that???

Probably up there with replying to a 4 year old post


If you have an iPhone replaced by Apple under warranty or as an Out of Warranty exchange device ,if you ensure the Genius is clearly aware that the iPhone was unlocked by the Carrier ,the replacement will similarly be unlocked

The unlocking procedure involves the Carrier reversing the lock Command to the Apple Activation Servers which was set when new and purchased with subsidy under Contract

Once reversed the iPhone should never be locked ,unless the replacement is incorrectly coded when you receive it from the Genius Bar

Apr 11, 2015 12:44 PM in response to R.Porter

Thats the thing. The authorized Apple technician showed me the activation profiles. The first said unlocked = False, the second said unlocked = True, but the the third (one that I have now) said unlocked = False. It seems like whoever put the activation profile on the third iPhone (that replaced the second) put the one of the first (initial) iPhone rather than the second (that replaced the first).


This morning, Apple Support told me to take it back to the store and demand to have it unlocked or replaced with one with unlocked activation profile.


Now, Apple Support says that only the carrier could unlock it.

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