"rip" or "tear" effect on the screen? How to?

Looking for advice or ideas on how to achieve a ripping effect of peeling away a portion of the video frame to reveal another layer of video behind it.

So you'd be viewing a full video frame, and then a rip or tear would occur (maybe 1/3) of frame, and you'd see another clip playing where the ripped portion was.

Any ideas on how to do this in FCP or Motion? Or am I going to have to buck up for some 3rd party software?

Thanks for any input!

Posted on Jan 19, 2006 12:01 PM

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Jan 19, 2006 1:33 PM in response to Eric Big Time Entertainment

What you need is to create a matte with an edge like torn paper. Get a few sheets of paper (heavier stock such as cartridge paper is ideal. Scan it in with a sheet of black behind it and boost the levels so you get a nice matte. do this a couple of times so you have two mattes.

Use one matte to key a layer of VT in FCP, and add a layer of white underneath and use the second matte to cut this out. position the second layer so it nearly coincides with the first, so you get some of the white showing through on the edge, which gives a nice "torn paper" effect.

You can use the mattes inverted to key the torn-off section if you want that to fly off.

Hope that makes sense!!

Steve

Jan 19, 2006 1:59 PM in response to Steve Archbold

Thanks, Makes sense and that's the direction I was thinking I might have to go. But what is VT?

But what I think the person we are doing this for is looking for the actual "peeling" back a layer, like actually seeing the paper being pulled towards the viewer as the rip occurs down the frame.

What if I used some green stock paper and actually filmed a hand ripping the green stock paper and key off the green?

Jan 19, 2006 2:42 PM in response to Patrick Sheffield

But what I think the person we are doing this for is looking for the actual "peeling" back a layer, like actually seeing the paper being pulled towards the viewer as the rip occurs down the frame. What if I used some green stock paper and actually filmed a hand ripping the green stock paper and key off the green?

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This requires a 3d compositor. You're not going to put the image on the torn sheet and have it move toward you in FCP. Not even in Motion. The best you're going to get out of these apps is the illusion of the tearing edge. If you use Patrick's advice, your image will fill the matte created by the green paper but it won't travel with the sheet.

bogiesan

Jan 19, 2006 3:04 PM in response to Patrick Sheffield

Hi Eric,
Go for the black and white option rather than blue and green - One simple luma key will work better than trying to chroma key out two different colours. Also when you tear the paper, unless you've lit it perfectly then any shadows cast on the colour paper will freak out the keyer. A luma keyer (especially if it's a linear based one i.e. it can differentiate levels of edge blur and softness) is far less susceptible to these changes. Also, as you're probably shooting on DV (I assume) you are working with a compressed and reduced colour signal which makes chroma key from DV not the easiest to achieve cleanly.
And as to what is VT ? A term from the 'olden' days of editing and transmission it stands for VideoTape and I think here Steve just means the picture source - Steve Archbold, now that name rings a bell - where have you worked here in London ?

But, back to the question, go out and get some black and white paper and enjoy your ripping !

Cheers

Rob C

I've just seen that you want the image to appear to be moving off with the rip- Go into Photoshop and make yourself a Black and white matte of a rip.
On your base layer, put the video you want to reveal.
On the second layer put the video you want to rip off. Apply the matte you've made in photoshop so that only one half of this image is visible.
On the next layer put the same image as layer two and apply the photoshop matte but invert it. What you should have now is a full frame of the ripping video sitting on top of the reveal.
Apply a page roll or page turn to the top layer and roll it off. the matte you have applied should then give the picture a ripped edge and the roll/page turn will give it the impression of being pulled away in pseudo 3D.
This is the principal I've used to achieve this kind of look in a linear tape environment, but unfortunately I don't have FCP here at the moment to give you any practical help - at least this might point you in the right direction !

Rob C

Jan 19, 2006 2:48 PM in response to David Bogie Chq-1

This requires a 3d compositor. You're not going to put the image on the torn sheet and have it move toward you in FCP. Not even in Motion. The best you're going to get out of these apps is the illusion of the tearing edge.< </div>

Sorry, omitted part of this post:

You can simulate the 3d move by carefully matching up a Page Peel with the underlying tear.

bogiesan

Jan 19, 2006 9:11 PM in response to Rob Cooper3

THanks guys!

That gives me some more ideas to go on. I have at least a month to tinker with this, so I can experiment as I go.

I think I do have a "page turn" transistion plugin somewhere. I'm wondering if I could use that page turn on one of the tear mattes. ?? That might make it look like it is coming towards the viewer, and leave behind the torn look. ??

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